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Old 10-13-2022, 06:47 PM
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How about a 4100 lb Cadillac hanging with a 991 GT3 at VIR

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Good God you are insufferable. You remind me of Unhandled Exception who has recently taken on a new handle. UE proclaimed that he owned a C7ZR1 and a 991.1 GT3 RS which in his eyes gave him credibilty, and most importantly objectivity. I know you are first and foremost an enthusiast who has owned a bunch of Corvettes, etc. but your enthusiasm for Porsche is almost fanboy-like. I wish I could say it's contagiuos, but you are on a Corvette forum. At least you don't pretend to be objective. Have fun!
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with all due respect Chevy a tier 1 automotive global company and they have a GM Facility Ringside. I just want to see and hear GM C8Z06 silence the carsnobs with the Z06 . Trust me Im hoping they simply are observing all this discourse and go for it. If there dont we still have a fantastic sounding handling emotional cool car the C8Z06 . So we cant bitch too much as these are High Class problems.

Im looking forward to the 2023 ROLEX 24 at Daytona to see WW3 Chevy V Ferrari V Porsche, V BMW, V BMW, V others. This year GTP cars and of course the cars we drive hard core sports car battling for 24HR. Hope to meet some of you there.
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Originally Posted by Poor-sha
How about a 4100 lb Cadillac hanging with a 991 GT3 at VIR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8THgAyAV65I
Wonder what would happen if we put you on the GT3
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Originally Posted by Foxaholic
So it looks like a 6:44 would be a good time?
Sure would be.

GM may not post an "official" time. They might but I won't be surprised at all if they do not.



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Originally Posted by RapidC84B
I wish you bench racers would stop using Lightning Lap. This is run by journalists on a configuration (Grand) that nobody races on. VIR Full is where it’s at and the C7 ZR1 times are nutso (1:52).

I’d love to see:

1. C8Z Z07 sub 7:00 at the ring
2. C8Z Z07 match ZR1 at VIR Full
Not sure what you mean by bench racer? I only quoted the Lightning Lap in reference to a previous post where it was said the GT2RS was slower than the C7ZR1 at VIR. He clarified his statement and all is well. If a bench racer is one who doesn't race, well that would be me But I have been attending various HDPE's for the past 25 years and track my cars regularly in the advanced groups. Is the Lightning Lap the best measure of a cars ability to go around a track? No, but it's one of the few available benchmarks we have for guys that like to see lap times. I too would love to see the new C8Z run a sub 7:00 time at the ring. I think it will be close but might fall short. I hope I'm wrong because I am buying one! If they ever make them lol.
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Originally Posted by Poor-sha
How about a 4100 lb Cadillac hanging with a 991 GT3 at VIR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8THgAyAV65I
Am I seeing that correctly? You were running down Ferrari Challenge cars at a 2:05 pace? I can't quite tell what they are up ahead.
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Originally Posted by TARANTULA
Wonder what would happen if we put you on the GT3
That would be fun but I have no idea. I've actually never driven a 911 on track in real like. I definitely had more experience at VIR than the guy in the GT3, which is what made it interesting.

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Am I seeing that correctly? You were running down Ferrari Challenge cars at a 2:05 pace? I can't quite tell what they are up ahead.
I'd forgotten all about them. As I recall they were older Ferrari 360 challenge cars. They also drove like they were the Blue Angels out there doing formation flying.
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New GT3 RS just turned in 6:44 Z06 will be 6:50-55.
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Originally Posted by Poor-sha
That would be fun but I have no idea. I've actually never driven a 911 on track in real like. I definitely had more experience at VIR than the guy in the GT3, which is what made it interesting.



I'd forgotten all about them. As I recall they were older Ferrari 360 challenge cars. They also drove like they were the Blue Angels out there doing formation flying.
Just for comparison sake, the latest VIR lap record for the 2021 Ferrari Challenge series qualifying by Copper Macneil was a 1:47.0 with a race fast lap of 1:49.6. I saw those cars running at the Montreal GP track and they are wicked fast. But they all crash into each other!!!
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Originally Posted by william wyatt
New GT3 RS just turned in 6:44 Z06 will be 6:50-55.
Shorter lap was 6:44.848 (20.6 km), longer lap was 6:49.328 (20.832 km)
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Originally Posted by Poor-sha
That would be fun but I have no idea. I've actually never driven a 911 on track in real like. I definitely had more experience at VIR than the guy in the GT3, which is what made it interesting.



I'd forgotten all about them. As I recall they were older Ferrari 360 challenge cars. They also drove like they were the Blue Angels out there doing formation flying.
We don’t track in the same region but if we ever do I’ll give you my car so you can try it.
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Originally Posted by Pentatonic
The C8Z is an underpowered short track car
C8Z is not under powered--what it is is overweight !!
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Originally Posted by Foxaholic
So it looks like a 6:44 would be a good time?
Well ya... But the Z07 would not do that.
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Originally Posted by Telepierre
And the other part to your question on downforce and weight is that my personal experience is that the ring is still a torque and power track more than a downforce and less weight track.
My2C and I am no Jim Mero... :-)
I misspoke earlier the new GT3RS is fitted with wider 275/335 tires, so an extra 10mm at each corner over the GT2RS or an extra 20mm at each corner over the 992 GT3. That’s the widest tires ever fitted on a 911, but surprisingly it still hit 180mph on the long straight with all the downforce and only 520hp.

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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
I misspoke earlier the new GT3RS is fitted with wider 275/335 tires, so an extra 10mm at each corner over the GT2RS or an extra 20mm at each corner over the 992 GT3. That’s the widest tires ever fitted on a 911, but surprisingly it still hit 180mph on the long straight with all the downforce and only 520hp.
That's the beauty of active aero. If it's anything like my 720, the rear wing on the GT3RS is probably about neutral on high speed straights. The cars make enough downforce on the straights without the rear wing needing to add any extra, letting the car accelerate faster without added restriction before the turns. The fixed wing on the Z07 continues to add drag the faster it goes.
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Originally Posted by Hannibal617
That's the beauty of active aero. If it's anything like my 720, the rear wing on the GT3RS is probably about neutral on high speed straights. The cars make enough downforce on the straights without the rear wing needing to add any extra, letting the car accelerate faster without added restriction before the turns. The fixed wing on the Z07 continues to add drag the faster it goes.
I’d be curious what a 992 GT3 runs with the wider wheels and 275/335 tires from the RS as imagine they’re worth the majority of the 10 seconds.
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Originally Posted by Hannibal617
That's the beauty of active aero. If it's anything like my 720, the rear wing on the GT3RS is probably about neutral on high speed straights. The cars make enough downforce on the straights without the rear wing needing to add any extra, letting the car accelerate faster without added restriction before the turns. The fixed wing on the Z07 continues to add drag the faster it goes.
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when i watched the 992 GT3RS video again one can see the front undercar aero flaps going into neutral /open low drag position and the rear 6’ wing opens into DRS formula 1 style. Porsche Motorsport engineering must have decided that their objective for the 992 GT3RS was to design and engineer the GT3RS so it achieved a faster NorthCourse lap-time than the mightly 700+HP GT2RS. Its a hell of an achievement regardless of sportscar preferences.

Can you imagine the SPEED of the upcoming Frankenstein 992 GT2RS . Basically take the 992 GT3RS and add 200 horsepower via giant VTG turbochargers a massive intercoolers, oil coolers, and distilled water injection. With an ECU tune and exhaust changes a reliable 900+ HP on premium fuel. This is getting truly remarkable, ridiculous and expensive. C8Z06 with the Blackwing engine tuned to 800HP along with massive aero would be required to push back the Germans to the maginot line.

Might have a C8Z06 in the shop in the next month or two.

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Originally Posted by Foxaholic
So it looks like a 6:44 would be a good time?
6:44 for what car? Certainly not the C8Z.
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when i watched the 992 GT3RS video again one can see the front undercar aero flaps going into neutral /open low drag position and the rear 6’ wing opens into DRS formula 1 style. Porsche Motorsport engineering must have decided that their objective for the 992 GT3RS was to design and engineer the GT3RS so it achieved a faster NorthCourse lap-time than the mightly 700+HP GT2RS. Its a hell of an achievement regardless of sportscar preferences.

Can you imagine the SPEED of the upcoming Frankenstein 992 GT2RS . Basically take the 992 GT3RS and add 200 horsepower via giant VTG turbochargers a massive intercoolers, oil coolers, and distilled water injection. With an ECU tune and exhaust changes a reliable 900+ HP on premium fuel. This is getting truly remarkable, ridiculous and expensive. C8Z06 with the Blackwing engine tuned to 800HP along with massive aero would be required to push back the Germans to the maginot line.

Might have a C8Z06 in the shop in the next month or two.
Being the last GT2RS was 9 seconds faster than the old GT3RS on the same tires, I’m going to guess the new GT2RS could do a mid 30 since the new GT3RS went 6:44.

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Originally Posted by Joefab
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with all due respect Chevy a tier 1 automotive global company and they have a GM Facility Ringside. I just want to see and hear GM C8Z06 silence the carsnobs with the Z06 . Trust me Im hoping they simply are observing all this discourse and go for it. If there dont we still have a fantastic sounding handling emotional cool car the C8Z06 . So we cant bitch too much as these are High Class problems.

Im looking forward to the 2023 ROLEX 24 at Daytona to see WW3 Chevy V Ferrari V Porsche, V BMW, V BMW, V others. This year GTP cars and of course the cars we drive hard core sports car battling for 24HR. Hope to meet some of you there.
Corvette did not build a new race car for the GTD-Pro series, but rather adapted their winning GTLM car. As such they just don't have the car to compete effectively, and unfortunately will not have GTD-Pro ready car until 2024. 2024 is a long ways off and who knows if Mary Bara will want an ice race car. She's awfully busy playing politics.
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