View Poll Results: Will You Cancel Your Order ?
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Poll: If the C8 Z06 Has Less Horsepower than the C7 Z06 Will You Cancel Your Order ?
10-14-2021, 07:01 AM
#81
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Another meaningless poll that isolates a single variable and asks potential voters to completely ignore all the other variables that go into a buying decision...How much is the car going to cost? What does the torque curve look like? Will demand and resale values remain high? What are the track times and other performance specs? The only thing dumber than answering a worthless poll like this is making up a worthless poll like this. 
10-14-2021, 07:15 AM
#82
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I agree! Some of us are having fun with this poll, and it’s interesting to hear what folks are thinking.. 
there are quite a few pissing matches.. I’m enjoying it.
Besides, what else can we do while we wait for the big reveal eh?
there are quite a few pissing matches.. I’m enjoying it.
Besides, what else can we do while we wait for the big reveal eh?
Last edited by captainbob; 10-14-2021 at 07:17 AM.
10-14-2021, 07:22 AM
#83
Burning Brakes
The whole "buy a hellcat/gt3rs/humvee/motorhome/sailboat" has turned into a comment that always rubs people the wrong way. So when you just pop in out of no where to throw it out there, it just looks like you are trying to **** people off for no reason. That isn't going against the mainstream vision or whatever, its just being a dick for no reason. Combine that with your posts like "the TT crowd needs to stop crying" and similar. That sort of stuff is going to rub people the wrong way. Plenty of other people make a case for an NA car without just getting crappy about it.
To be fair, there are people on the TT side who also come across as dicks.
To be fair, there are people on the TT side who also come across as dicks.
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10-14-2021, 07:28 AM
#84
Pro
I actually want the car to have LESS horsepower and be able to beat the outgoing car in every other metric. If GM can pull this off, they will get a lot of respect from everyone. They’ll be able to prove that they can do more sophisticated things than dialing everything up with each new car.
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10-14-2021, 09:01 AM
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10-14-2021, 09:12 AM
#86
Way up +1
10-14-2021, 09:21 AM
#87
Le Mans Master
Poll results are even more swayed because this is a Corvette enthusiast forum (and 85% of the people would still buy it). Let's be honest if GM gives us a 595hp C8 Z06 that gets huge love from the media for steering feel, handling, braking, etc and reviews are over the top positive they will be sold out for the next 4 years +. It will attract throngs of new buyers in the US and would be very successful overseas.
Just reality.
Just reality.
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10-14-2021, 09:57 AM
#88
Pro
what order?
How can you cancel an order that doesn't exist? Your "pretend order?"
10-14-2021, 09:59 AM
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10-14-2021, 10:05 AM
#90
Le Mans Master
I actually think there will be a lot of Z06's available if you want one. Either through the dealer directly (auction or big ADM) or via private sellers. C8 Stingray was no different. If you were willing to pay ADM you could buy one instantly.
But I understand your point, most people here are on a wait list (many thinking MSRP).
10-14-2021, 10:07 AM
#91
Well, unless you are willing to pay a markup
I actually think there will be a lot of Z06's available if you want one. Either through the dealer directly (auction or big ADM) or via private sellers. C8 Stingray was no different. If you were willing to pay ADM you could buy one instantly.
But I understand your point, most people here are on a wait list (many thinking MSRP).
I actually think there will be a lot of Z06's available if you want one. Either through the dealer directly (auction or big ADM) or via private sellers. C8 Stingray was no different. If you were willing to pay ADM you could buy one instantly.
But I understand your point, most people here are on a wait list (many thinking MSRP).
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10-14-2021, 10:47 AM
#92
Drifting
The C8’s engine sits on top of the drive wheels which translate to less parasitic power loss . The DCT also reduce that as well compared to a torque converter trans . So even if it has 625 HP on paper , it will have more WHP compared to a C7 Z06 with auto .
So yes , I’m still interested
So yes , I’m still interested
10-14-2021, 11:13 AM
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10-14-2021, 11:40 AM
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That's pretty much how I see it too... I'm going to spec a nice GT grade base Z06 HTC for open air cruising on A1A while being serenaded by an amazing exhaust note while styling a sleek and aggressive profile on the road. I want all season tires and less brake dust to clean too... The ZR1 will surely crack 7 minutes at the Ring but will be less enjoyable on the street imo.
If horsepower were my priority I'd get a GT500 or a Redeye... Different experiences...
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10-14-2021, 11:48 AM
#95
Poll results are even more swayed because this is a Corvette enthusiast forum (and 85% of the people would still buy it). Let's be honest if GM gives us a 595hp C8 Z06 that gets huge love from the media for steering feel, handling, braking, etc and reviews are over the top positive they will be sold out for the next 4 years +. It will attract throngs of new buyers in the US and would be very successful overseas.
Just reality.
Just reality.
If Tadge comes up with 595HP Z06 with a steering wheel that vibrates and a rattling engine to give me the "sophisticated" track experience when I drive to wall mart I am going to write him a personal mail and include a one dollar check to make a point...
Finally @ 40K units production a year I think we can't exaggerate Z06 waiting times. Even at historical first year 10K units "wow" factor plus another 5K plus up 'C8" factor, 15K units come quicker than anticipated when you make 40K a year..
And the economy is slowing...
EDIT: and for what it's worth from an experienced self professed "international" professional....
A tariffed 200K+ Z06 can go so far....
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10-14-2021, 12:01 PM
#96
Well...I disagree. All things considered throughout the years I don't think the "media" has been that good to the Corvette. I think reality is Corvette has prospered in spite of the media due to the price/value and a senior clientele that is able to look past the mags (See Z06 a lot of nothing overheating coverage). My2C of course.
If Tadge comes up with 595HP Z06 with a steering wheel that vibrates and a rattling engine to give me the "sophisticated" track experience when I drive to wall mart I am going to write him a personal mail and include a one dollar check to make a point...
Finally @ 40K units production a year I think we can't exaggerate Z06 waiting times. Even at historical first year 10K units "wow" factor plus another 5K plus up 'C8" factor, 15K units come quicker than anticipated when you make 40K a year..
And the economy is slowing...
EDIT: and for what it's worth from an experienced self professed "international" professional....
A tariffed 200K+ Z06 can go so far....
If Tadge comes up with 595HP Z06 with a steering wheel that vibrates and a rattling engine to give me the "sophisticated" track experience when I drive to wall mart I am going to write him a personal mail and include a one dollar check to make a point...
Finally @ 40K units production a year I think we can't exaggerate Z06 waiting times. Even at historical first year 10K units "wow" factor plus another 5K plus up 'C8" factor, 15K units come quicker than anticipated when you make 40K a year..
And the economy is slowing...
EDIT: and for what it's worth from an experienced self professed "international" professional....
A tariffed 200K+ Z06 can go so far....
This could be just double wishbone suspension. Maybe Corvette having the double wishbone is the reason (and maybe thats why the new GT3 seems to also have this issue) but I love how compliant my GT3 is. It is stiff if you hit bumps but it absorbs the minor road imperfections so well.
For example, if I am taking a 270 degree turn into a highway on a ramp and say I take that turn at 0.8-0.9 g. If there is any waveness, C7 will fishtail/have upset body roll where porsche just rides on that so smoothly.
And keep in mind this is a GT3RS with solid connections to the frame. The GT3 (991) was even softer.
I have no idea how C8 rides. Maybe part of this is leaf springs in the old car, very stiff spring rates, and the wishbone suspension setup. Maybe the mid engine architecture allows for a much better damping characteristics.
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10-14-2021, 12:09 PM
#97
How would you prefer the steering wheel to behave exactly? Because my C7 steering wheel vibrates far more than the GT3 steering wheel. In fact, the entire car transmits way too much micro vibrations (C7) driving over slightly not smooth highway surfaces. If I brake from 90-100 mph, I can see the HUD vibrate pretty visibly. I dont have this bumpyness and bad damping issues in my GT3.
This could be just double wishbone suspension. Maybe Corvette having the double wishbone is the reason (and maybe thats why the new GT3 seems to also have this issue) but I love how compliant my GT3 is. It is stiff if you hit bumps but it absorbs the minor road imperfections so well.
For example, if I am taking a 270 degree turn into a highway on a ramp and say I take that turn at 0.8-0.9 g. If there is any waveness, C7 will fishtail/have upset body roll where porsche just rides on that so smoothly.
And keep in mind this is a GT3RS with solid connections to the frame. The GT3 (991) was even softer.
I have no idea how C8 rides. Maybe part of this is leaf springs in the old car, very stiff spring rates, and the wishbone suspension setup. Maybe the mid engine architecture allows for a much better damping characteristics.
This could be just double wishbone suspension. Maybe Corvette having the double wishbone is the reason (and maybe thats why the new GT3 seems to also have this issue) but I love how compliant my GT3 is. It is stiff if you hit bumps but it absorbs the minor road imperfections so well.
For example, if I am taking a 270 degree turn into a highway on a ramp and say I take that turn at 0.8-0.9 g. If there is any waveness, C7 will fishtail/have upset body roll where porsche just rides on that so smoothly.
And keep in mind this is a GT3RS with solid connections to the frame. The GT3 (991) was even softer.
I have no idea how C8 rides. Maybe part of this is leaf springs in the old car, very stiff spring rates, and the wishbone suspension setup. Maybe the mid engine architecture allows for a much better damping characteristics.
C7 steering wheel does not vibrate the way you describe it. Simple enough.
Both GT3RS and 992 GT3 have extremely poor NHV properties. Like you stated the engine is bolted directly to frame so you can feel it. Some enjoy it for ten minutes some don't for even a minute.
10-14-2021, 12:10 PM
#98
Your "pseudo" C7 you mean...
C7 steering wheel does not vibrate the way you describe it. Simple enough.
Both GT3RS and 992 GT3 have extremely poor NHV properties. Like you stated the engine is bolted directly to frame so you can feel it. Some enjoy it for ten minutes some don't for even a minute.
C7 steering wheel does not vibrate the way you describe it. Simple enough.
Both GT3RS and 992 GT3 have extremely poor NHV properties. Like you stated the engine is bolted directly to frame so you can feel it. Some enjoy it for ten minutes some don't for even a minute.
10-14-2021, 12:20 PM
#99
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...iscussion-176/
Start a thread: my C7 steering wheel vibrates.
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10-14-2021, 04:32 PM
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