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Poll: If the C8 Z06 Has Less Horsepower than the C7 Z06 Will You Cancel Your Order ?

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Old 10-11-2021, 09:21 AM
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I believe it’s going to be a clone of the C8R technologies. Light weight suspension , drivetrain and engine components such as titanium replacements. I think the new Z06 will have more advertised HP than the actual C8R and that car was fast compared other IMSA class cars.
Old 10-11-2021, 09:32 AM
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I think the new Z06 will have more advertised HP than the actual C8R and that car was fast compared other IMSA class cars.
I would hope so considering the Stingray has only 5 less hp than the C8.R. Re: the “no traction” in the C7 Z06 @ 650 hp, good tires & driving/launching lessons fix that.
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I won't cancel. I am sure it will make a fine street car and be fun to take to the track once in awhile.

I will say power is definitely fun. I had a C7 Grand Sport and it was wonderful. The GS would kinda scare my Wife but she was cool with it. Only made her jump out of it once at NJMP Lightning screaming "You crazy m-effer" at me after trying to run down my buddy in his ACR-E. The C7Z on the other hand makes tears stream down her face even while she's saying "keep going".

I feel like my C8Z from my local dealer could be 2-3 years away. Whatever power plant it has will not make me cancel as I am confident it will have plenty of power for my Wife and I. What will make me cancel is if they hit me with a 20-30K ADM upcharge. I just will not do it especially after they have told me in person they are selling it to me at MSRP.
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Old 10-11-2021, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by EasyLivin
This poll is meant to determine the percentage of people who flat out refuse to buy the car if it has less horsepower than the C7 Z06... It assumes that the respondents already have an order, deposit or agreement with a dealer to buy a car.
This poll should be meant to ask first and foremost if the car's power to weight ratio sucks will you still buy it. That's the most important question. If the car is 3600+ lbs and comes in at only 600 hp and low ish tq in the 400's it's not going to put the world on notice except in a fairly ho hum negative way. That's not the car I'm been waiting for since the base car was announced. If that's the case I would have gotten a base car a long time ago.

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Originally Posted by hcvone
I have had several C7 Z06's, several C7 ZR1's, yea the hp was great, but no traction, the C8 with less hp will be faster because of the engine location, i.e. traction
Understood and we agree. Now give us some power to go with that vaunted ME platform since it can actually put that power down. Why not give us some? Like say 700hp min? Right?
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Old 10-11-2021, 10:15 AM
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I'll cancel my order but everybody has to cancel theirs first... :-)
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Old 10-11-2021, 12:12 PM
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I will cancel because it won't flip at $40K over..
Old 10-11-2021, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Savoy2001
Understood and we agree. Now give us some power to go with that vaunted ME platform since it can actually put that power down. Why not give us some? Like say 700hp min? Right?
Why stop there? Why not 1,000hp while we're at it? /s

Not like there's gonna be 2 even higher power variants (ZR1, Zora) coming out...

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I’m here for the Corvette Porsche GT3.
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Old 10-11-2021, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Savoy2001
This poll should be meant to ask first and foremost if the car's power to weight ratio sucks will you still buy it. That's the most important question. If the car is 3600+ lbs and comes in at only 600 hp and low ish tq in the 400's it's not going to put the world on notice except in a fairly ho hum negative way. That's not the car I'm been waiting for since the base car was announced. If that's the case I would have gotten a base car a long time ago.
I agree. When the C8 was about to be launched I was hopeful the 6.2 would get a material bump in power. But it didn't. If the new Z06 has less hp and less torque than my C7 Z06, then I'm going to be really disappointed. I, like what I assume to be the vast majority of Z06 owners, don't track my car (ever, or even on a somewhat regular basis). One of the things I love about my Z06 is the instant acceleration. I realize the flat plane 5.5 will offer it's own advantages, but I can't imagine how a high-revving V8 with LESS hp and torque will offer an even remotely similar sensation. Considering how many cars, trucks and SUVs offer 500+, 600+ and even 700+ hp, I frankly think it will be a big disappointment if the new Z06 offers not just less than the previous generation but less than what many people can get in a family sedan or pickup. Yes, many of them weight more. But many of them also benefit from AWD or the instant torque of electric propulsion.

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Old 10-11-2021, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Cubicinches
I agree. When the C8 was about to be launched I was hopeful the 6.2 would get a material bump in power. But it didn't. If the new Z06 has less hp and less torque than my C7 Z06, then I'm going to be really disappointed. I, like what I assume to be the vast majority of Z06 owners, don't track my car (ever, or even on a somewhat regular basis). One of the things I love about my Z06 is the instant acceleration. I realize the flat plane 5.5 will offer it's own advantages, but I can't imagine how a high-revving V8 with LESS hp and torque will offer an even remotely similar sensation. Considering how many cars, trucks and SUVs offer 500+, 600+ and even 700+ hp, I frankly think it will be a big disappointment if the new Z06 offers not just less than the previous generation but less than what many people can get in a family sedan or pickup. Yes, many of them weight more. But many of them also benefit from AWD or the instant torque of electric propulsion.
40hp wasn't a bump? It maintained the power to weight ratio, but utilized it better I agree and I agree we need at least the same power to weight ratio in the Z06. I don't care how they achieve that.
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Old 10-11-2021, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect
Why stop there? Why not 1,000hp while we're at it? /s

Not like there's gonna be 2 even higher power variants (ZR1, Zora) coming out...
Nah. Might as well make the z06 have 850hp, with AWD.

That way there won't have to be a ZR1 or anything else. Everyone will just drive z06's.
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Old 10-11-2021, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by EasyLivin
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Old 10-12-2021, 01:39 AM
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Im having a hard time understanding something. Allegedly the Corvette platform can put the power down in ways never thought possible before with the Front-Mid engine design. Why in the hell would you want "less" power when this time you can "allegedly" use ALL of it?????

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Originally Posted by Lavender
Im having a hard time understanding something. Allegedly the Corvette platform can put the power down in ways never thought possible before with the Front-Mid engine design. Why in the hell would you want "less" power when this time you can "allegedly" ALL of it?????
Very logical question indeed and how does less power fit with the all jet fighter image (emphasis on fighter) beats me as well. I have complete tally of sports cars for 2022 and save for the "retro car" it's all FE and MEs supercars comfortably in the 600/700+ range. You are not going to put a jet fighter world on notice with a biplane. The industry is not that upside down.



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Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect
Why stop there? Why not 1,000hp while we're at it? /s

Not like there's gonna be 2 even higher power variants (ZR1, Zora) coming out...
Ridiculous as usual. You know very well 700 hp in the z leaves plenty of room for the zr1 800ish and the zora if it exists at 900-1000. So please.
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Ridiculous as usual. You know very well 700 hp in the z leaves plenty of room for the zr1 800ish and the zora if it exists at 900-1000. So please.
So does a 6XXhp lighter weight (than a TT version, all else being equal) Z06, and a 495hp base C8. I was countering the point about the mid-engine traction being the sole factor.

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Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect
So does a 6XXhp lighter weight (than a TT version, all else being equal) Z06, and a 495hp base C8. I was countering the point about the mid-engine traction being the sole factor.
Agreed. This can finally be a track car people have been wanting since the C6Z days.

Imagine an all new platform, the DCT, a brand new FPC engine, modern day tech, the aero, in a C8 package?

This is GM's last chance to do this, then it's bye bye to it all. In all aspects as we shift towards EV everything.

Why wouldn't they want to give the market this one last NA grand finale?
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Originally Posted by Z0HS1CK
Agreed. This can finally be a track car people have been wanting since the C6Z days.

Imagine an all new platform, the DCT, a brand new FPC engine, modern day tech, the aero, in a C8 package?

This is GM's last chance to do this, then it's bye bye to it all. In all aspects as we shift towards EV everything.

Why wouldn't they want to give the market this one last NA grand finale?
You two should just start your own thread so you can fantasize in private.
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