Michael A

So you don't want refinement and high end materials? That's an easy one. Buy an old car.

MaryAnnB

My cousin has both Portofino and Huracan. He will not ever look at a Corvette. I don't know what the hell you are talking about. It is a Chevrolet, get over it. There is a whole lotta young rich people now. Corvette does not symbolize anything for them, but a Lambo does. Only Corvette owners go chase after exotics. For them, you don't matter. Corvette has always been a poor man's Ferrari (yeah, many times we were told that to our faces), and now it is a duplication of 458 from 10 years ago. I guess they wanted to skip poor man part and go straight into cloning.

At the end, it is never going to be a Ferrari unless you bring the price up $150k and split it from Chevrolet. They should do that, actually.

rob62

^ Hope you Vette guys learned a good lesson today. ^

Aozora

He’s right though, that forum is literally the Ferrari community, more so that one person’s turned up nose, at least.
I wouldn’t take your cousins opinion of a car as what the rest of that community thinks or feels.
I do somewhat agree that Corvette should be their own brand and ultimately that may be what happens one day.
The Z06 is not a copy of a 458. That car is very dated and inferior even to the base model Stingray in all but the most subjective qualities. (Design, sound, experience)
Granted, those qualities were, most likely a huge inspiration draw for the Z06 but that’s exactly what most of the talk is centered around and why people are saying the car is more Ferrari than a 488, F8 etc.
One thing is for certain, the Z06 will be the most debated, talked about, controversial and sought after corvette in a very long time.

ArmchairArchitect

Sounds like your brother is into sports cars for the wrong reasons...narcissistic status symbol/"wealth flex" rather than performance and the driving experience. These are exactly the types of guys that ruin the greater car community.

True car enthusiasts appreciate a wide spectrum of makes and models. A good car is a good car.

international blue

I really like the comment…”the Z06 will be the most debated, talked about and controversial Corvette in a very long time…”

And that is a huge harbinger of the potential for the car.

In my mind the stakes are very very high and for reasons that aren’t really clear to everyone. In the future a small minority (30-40 maybe 60 percent?) of commuters will have the ability to ultimately DEPEND on electricity reliably to power their commutes in because of the lack of infrastructure to support electricity demand. It’s just not there. The grid in many places cannot support that demand in the summer months.

The Political effort directed to involve the automotive industry has been an artificial force which has altered the course of automotive development by forcing adoption of new technology. That effort has even penetrated Ferrari design and planning deep in infrastructure rich Europe and prevented them from maintaining a hold on where the actual passion is in its cars…in fact, they are losing their way with technology and drivability. How much tech is too much, and is it supportable long term at their dealer network?

It’s so interesting how Fchat is so down on the sound of the F8 and the SF90 is also felt as a wrong direction car as well…IF the Z06 becomes a ultra high performance car of great usability and utility and is supported LONG term by GM as a will be a disruption on the market that will be of great importance and consequence. The mileage driven by these cars will be millions more than the vaunted Ferraris.

sainthoo

Well, there are all types out there. Some only care about the badge. I believe/hope that those types are the minority. If I was a car company, I would ignore them, because no matter how good or bad my product might be, you can’t change the mindset.

I happened to be the one that started that Z06 thread. I recognize the cache of the exotic. However, I am brand agnostic as an enthusiast of cars/driving. I have owned exotics, race cars, SUVs, sedans, etc. I have enjoyed different vehicles and brands for different reasons. Sure, I have a soft spot for McLaren and BMW for emotional, personal reasons, for no reason at all. But, I appreciate quality when I see it, and I with a whole bunch of others recognize it when we see it. (I just bought a Morgan 3 wheeler- that thing is ridiculous, but maybe the most fun to drive of all of them.)

The appreciation for the C8 and anticipation of the Z06 is a compliment. With any luck it inspires more and better from other brands, which, hopefully, we all appreciate. No need for a chip on the shoulder for those that seem to take offense.

DaveFerrari458

Utter nonsense!! You have no clue!!! I was in Beverly Hills two weekends ago and saw about 4 C8's! All of them were driven by younger (under 55) people. Two of them were definitely under 30 and the cars had very nice wheels. I have a feeling they were rented (they do that a lot in LA & Miami) so they can just show off the car! Besides that, I know a lot of exotic owners that would consider a Corvette!

skank

Ngcanada ?

sainthoo

I don’t follow. If screen name- same here as there?

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/c8-z06.623509/

skank

The thread that I extracted these posts from was called "The C8 ZO6 Corvette sounds more Ferrari than Ferrari". I'll have to go and check out your thread though!

TARANTULA

JDIllon

I will tell what I don't understand! Is why people like you feel the need to come on to this post and call people names and insult them for there opinion??? Get a LIFE!! And please don't come back with some smart *** remark!! I've blocked you and so should everyone else. I won't call you any names or demean you! JD
Note: thanks Skank, great post!!!

Kevin Marshall

Hi Steve,

You must be done with that library !!!

Now you have too much time on your hands.

Thanks for the entertainment.

I'll be back in Florida next week will have to take Serena out again.

Kevin :-)

Sub Driver

Wow, triggered much? I didn't call anyone names or lob any insults. Its ok that some people need to get validation from others, I get it. I hope you will feel better.

ltomn

The gingerly picked list of comments by my friend, Skank, has proven one major thing: Ferrari hears the footsteps! They cannot ignore Corvette and call it "sub par" any longer! They cannot write it off as an "also ran!" A huge shout out to GM for it's continuing support of this platform. The Z06 will cement the C8 into the annals of history.

HOTXFIL

Meh.

Chevrolet lost me with the C8--no interest in owning one.

Looks too much like a Ferrari.

skank

SaintHoo, I just finished reading your 12 page highly entertaining FerrariChat thread. Probably, one of the best threads on the ZO6 of any forum out there. Your deep dive discussion on the ZO6 with Boxerman, FatBillyBob, Wikdstrate, and TheMayor was a clear and concise display of sophisticated banter between knowledgeable track drivers. Better by far than any thread on Rennlist or even this Forum. It's refreshing to read civilized technical discussion on this new ZO6. A few weeks ago when the photo of the magnesium DCT case was shown on MECF I posted the obvious difference in the engine mounts. They were clearly different than the ones on the Stingray. When they showed the cutaway of the Stingray at Laguna Seca during the Monterey Historics in August of 2019 we could clearly see the four engine mounts. At that time I couldn't tell for sure if they were standard Hydraulic or the high tech Magneto-Rheological engine mounts by BWI or ZF. Later that Fall at the IMSA race at the Corvette Corral I talked to Corvette Chief Engineer Josh Holder and asked him point blank if they were MR engine mounts and he politely dodged the question. As we discussed at length on MECF, I do believe these are MR engine mounts most likely from BWI which will mate well the the BWI MR suspension system that Corvette developed and Ferrari now uses. These engine mounts alone will transform the ZO6 to an incredibly well handling car. I am going to the IMSA race this weekend at Laguna Seca and will pester the Corvette engineering team that shows up. Tadge Juechter will be there according to MECF and there's always a chance they would have a ZO6/ZO7 camo test car there to do a 2 lap display then put back on the truck. They have done this 2 or 3 times before to ramp up the excitement for the new model. I'm hoping that's the case anyway.

https://www.enginetechnologyinternat...ne-mounts.html

skank

Hi Kevin. Great to see you here on CF. I'll be back in Stuart and we will have to get together again. Especially on Serena! Exciting times for Corvette enthusiasts now that the ZO6 is getting close to be revealed. Can't wait !!

sainthoo

Car people are car people. We may all have our soft spots, of course. The best part of One Lap- surrounded by car people, make and budget didn’t matter.