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I’ve seen several C8 owners try to park with the exotics at gatherings only to get told to move to the Corvette/American aisles. Corvettes are not exotics. It’s a high-performance sports car, always has been, always will be. Imo the ones who need to call it an exotic or supercar are those who can’t afford either.
Exactly. Corvettes are great sports cars but dont reach the levels of supercars. Some people seem desperate to tell themselves their corvette is a supercar, lol. I dont get it. If you have to ask people whether your car is a supercar, I think you have your answer.
No it's not a supercar.. The times have changed and now a 2022 supercar are exotics. The rest are Sports cars..
If the C8 Z06 came out in 2021 I would agree it is a supercar and exotic.
Exactly. Corvettes are great sports cars but dont reach the levels of supercars. Some people seem desperate to tell themselves their corvette is a supercar, lol. I dont get it. If you have to ask people whether your car is a supercar, I think you have your answer.
So being in the top 2 or even top 10 lap times of any production car is not "supercar" status now? Because the Corvette Z models have done that for generations now.
So being in the top 2 or even top 10 lap times of any production car is not "supercar" status now? Because the Corvette Z models have done that for generations now.
LOL at your non-argument.
...and a Tesla is faster 0-60 than some supercars. Does that alone make it a supercar, lol? LOL at your illogical non-argument. You must be one of the people I mentioned that has to try and convince themselves that their corvette is a supercar. Again, if you need a poll asking people whether or not it is, you already have your answer. How many polls do you think get started on F-Chat where F8 owners ask each other if they own a supercar, lol? Some of the people around here are hilarious.
...and a Tesla is faster 0-60 than some supercars. Does that alone make it a supercar, lol? LOL at your illogical non-argument. You must be one of the people I mentioned that has to try and convince themselves that their corvette is a supercar. Again, if you need a poll asking people whether or not it is, you already have your answer. How many polls do you think get started on F-Chat where F8 owners ask each other if they own a supercar, lol? Some of the people around here are hilarious.
I think it is a fair question. I don't care what the answer is - not part of the equation for my buying one. However, is a "supercar" something that is objective or subjective? And next what are the criteria - objective and/or subjective. The fact that a few rich people with "expensive" cars wouldn't look at or "ask" the question again means nothing to me - sound more like snobbery. I would think a "supercar" should be more objective. An "exotic" car should be more subjective with some minimum objective factors.
What is a supercar? 0-60 2.5 or less, 1/4 mile 10.0 or less , top speed minimum 180 , Nurburgring under 7:00 Any car with those specs is a Supercar - price irrelevant. Some might reasonable say numbers not as "exotic" would also qualify.
So being in the top 2 or even top 10 lap times of any production car is not "supercar" status now? Because the Corvette Z models have done that for generations now.
LOL at your non-argument.
Exactly! Like I said, if one denies the fact that the Z Versions of the Corvette are not Supercars then they're just hating or trolling! Now they could be semi exotic or exotic (depending on location) or not but who cares!! I haven't seen a ZR1 in over two months while I see a handful of exotics everyday so by definition of rarity then the ZR1 is an exotic.
...and a Tesla is faster 0-60 than some supercars. Does that alone make it a supercar, lol? LOL at your illogical non-argument. You must be one of the people I mentioned that has to try and convince themselves that their corvette is a supercar. Again, if you need a poll asking people whether or not it is, you already have your answer. How many polls do you think get started on F-Chat where F8 owners ask each other if they own a supercar, lol? Some of the people around here are hilarious.
Supercar was never about 0 to 60, it has always been about all-around performance. The best measure of which is lap times.
Please, tell us your definition of a supercar. And don't confuse it with the term exotic, because I can tell that's already what you've been doing. They are two separate terms with two separate meanings.
Last edited by ArmchairArchitect; 08-31-2021 at 08:49 PM.
I mentioned this in another thread a few weeks back but seems relevant to repeat it again here. In the past 30 years owning Corvettes with all of them being modified (sometimes extreme) I have NEVER had anyone comment, ask questions about and even gawk at any of my previous cars compared to my C8 Z51 HTC ...not even close. So far every place I have gone it gets looks and comments. The most telling was on a photoshoot for a very wealthy client who owns ~25 high end exotics (Lambo, Ferrari, McLaren, Porsche etc..) I was shooting his Lambo Aventador SVJ and he would not stop asking me about my new C8. Before someone says it...no he wasn't doing it just to be nice, I work with professional racers and exotic car owners all of the time, he was really interested in what I thought and he plans to pick up a Z06 himself.
Supercar to me means how it performs. Exotic to means how rare/exclusive. Do I think the C8 Z51 is a Supercar or an Exotic...NO, ...but I am still really surprised on how much praise it is getting from those that quite frankly can own any car in the world. The Z06 on the other hand I feel will definitely be a Supercar...but still not an Exotic. The ZR1 will be unquestionable a Supercar and...maybe an Exotic. The "Zora", if they built it will be both and likely go down as the most bang for the buck exotic in automotive history. IMO.
Here are the pics again of my car and the Lambo SVJ for anyone who cares.
Supercar or not, I’m just glad there’s a high performance car with looks to kill, reliable, and with low maintenance cost that is within my budget. If it wasn’t for the reliability, maintenance cost, and loss of value from the added daily mileage, I would go for a used McLaren 570S.
Z06 would be a supercar if it came from the factory with vertical doors, LOL!!!
Lots of great discussion here guys! I figured this wouldn't be so cut and dry and people would be divided. Its kind of a fringe car and I get that, similar to like a 911 Turbo S.
And just for the record, I am not here looking for a reason to justify calling my C8Z a supercar or anything of the sorts. I just wanted to get a good discussion going that wasn't about NA vs Turbo.
As I live in Carmel CA and for the last 11 years have been a class host at the Pebble Beach Concours D'Elegance I've met some incredible car people from Horacio Pagani, Pierro Ferrari, to the heads of design at Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Maserati, and this year Pininfarini. This year I was in the class of the Past Winners of the Show for the last seventy years of its history. I was asked to hover around and protect one particular car that is now the most valuable car in the world that was built in 1936 by a special Italian living in France. For those of you that know this car, they recently had an offer of $125M for the car by the Saudi's. Thankfully they declined. One of the handlers was discussing with me on the topic of the new ZO6. He clearly was sincerely interested in this car and is discussing the purchase of one. So you see, there are world class car collectors looking at the ZO6. No lie! No BS! Just knowledgeable car collectors knowing when a special car comes along.
As I live in Carmel CA and for the last 11 years have been a class host at the Pebble Beach Concours D'Elegance I've met some incredible car people from Horacio Pagani, Pierro Ferrari, to the heads of design at Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Maserati, and this year Pininfarini. This year I was in the class of the Past Winners of the Show for the last seventy years of its history. I was asked to hover around and protect one particular car that is now the most valuable car in the world that was built in 1936 by a special Italian living in France. For those of you that know this car, they recently had an offer of $125M for the car by the Saudi's. Thankfully they declined. One of the handlers was discussing with me on the topic of the new ZO6. He clearly was sincerely interested in this car and is discussing the purchase of one. So you see, there are world class car collectors looking at the ZO6. No lie! No BS! Just knowledgeable car collectors knowing when a special car comes along.
Most people that I know that have/had exotic cars have nothing but praise for the C8 (except some that say it looks slightly weird from some angles) and some are very much looking forward to a Z06/ZR1 to add to their stable. Not that it really matters what anyone thinks but still! And the small amount of people that have talked sh*t about Corvette's are usually the ones that have never owned anything high-end and/or never driven or been driven in a Corvette. They're just magazine/Youtube sheeps!
The only reason it wouldn’t be considered a supercar by some is because it’s not expensive enough. The arrogance of people with money to burn says if it’s expensive it must be better. Also people with that type of mentality like more exclusive ****. Corvette to common. They don’t want to be seen in the same car as a regular guy. Ugh that gives them the shutters. Now obviously I’m generalizing but I think there’s a large segment of prime that feel this way. It’s more of a status piece to these folks and they want expensive and exclusive at any cost.
Boils down to I’m better than you and so is my car. So naturally no way they will consider a poor man’s super car a real super car no matter what the looks or performance says.
A supercar is more than just performance, otherwise a tesla plaid would be a supercar. Everything about a supercar is super...hence the name. They have a mix of performance, exotic and exclusive characteristics. In the past the Z06 has been right up there with the performance but lacked in other categories. It is a great sports car and I have loved mine but they are not supercars. Again, if people have to ask then you already have your answer.
08-31-2021, 06:50 PM
I’ve seen several C8 owners try to park with the exotics at gatherings only to get told to move to the Corvette/American aisles. Corvettes are not exotics. It’s a high-performance sports car, always has been, always will be. Imo the ones who need to call it an exotic or supercar are those who can’t afford either.
