C8 Z06 TT fpc 700+HP 626tq 10.26 et traps 135mph
10-27-2021, 12:00 PM
#881
Melting Slicks
Considering how the TT vs NA debate was basically “crips vs bloods” in the months leading up to the reveal, I think incredible restraint is being shown around here in terms of not calling people out over it or making a “fuss”. I expected it to be absolute open season on a few outspoken members, to be honest.
EDIT: By the way, fun lookback or no, should be noted Grandsport 17 posted almost 11 months ago that it was a 5.5L NA with 672 HP. Definitely has some information....
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10-27-2021, 12:50 PM
#882
I have a ton of old posts saved ready to post as a fun "look-back". I've been debating if we could pull it off all in the name of fun (easy for me to say since I was in the Na camp). Many of the posters who were sure it was turbo, still wanted N/A Others were just taking their best guess with what they knew. We've all been wrong about more important things than our speculation of a future engine, so it really is no big deal. If I could be sure people would use it as a fun lookback only, I would post in a heartbeat, but I'm afraid it would lead to some poor behavior.... so I've held off for now.
EDIT: By the way, fun lookback or no, should be noted Grandsport 17 posted almost 11 months ago that it was a 5.5L NA with 672 HP. Definitely has some information....
EDIT: By the way, fun lookback or no, should be noted Grandsport 17 posted almost 11 months ago that it was a 5.5L NA with 672 HP. Definitely has some information....
I was confident they weren't going with less power than the CT5V Blackwing. TT just made more sense then. What they came up with is looking even better (and much lighter) given the reliability is there. I think it will be, given all the lessons of the past they have to draw from.
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10-27-2021, 01:03 PM
#883
Race Director
His prediction back then stuck with me the whole time. Even when I was sold on the ZERV TT CAD leaks. I'd have been 100% sure it was TT if not for GS2017.
I was confident they weren't going with less power than the CT5V Blackwing. TT just made more sense then. What they came up with is looking even better (and much lighter) given the reliability is there. I think it will be, given all the lessons of the past they have to draw from.
I was confident they weren't going with less power than the CT5V Blackwing. TT just made more sense then. What they came up with is looking even better (and much lighter) given the reliability is there. I think it will be, given all the lessons of the past they have to draw from.
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10-27-2021, 01:12 PM
#884
Le Mans Master
I'm anxious to see what the engineers did to address the internal vibrations that are inherent to the design. Frankly, I was surprised that the engine is 5.5 liters due to those concerns. That's the biggest reason that I thought it would be TT- to reach an acceptable power level (more than the C7 Z06) at a smaller size to avoid those vibrations. They must have found something to address that so they could meet durability and NVH goals with a 5.5 engine.
10-27-2021, 01:31 PM
#885
I'm anxious to see what the engineers did to address the internal vibrations that are inherent to the design. Frankly, I was surprised that the engine is 5.5 liters due to those concerns. That's the biggest reason that I thought it would be TT- to reach an acceptable power level (more than the C7 Z06) at a smaller size to avoid those vibrations. They must have found something to address that so they could meet durability and NVH goals with a 5.5 engine.
10-27-2021, 01:37 PM
#886
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10-27-2021, 02:26 PM
#887
Considering how the TT vs NA debate was basically “crips vs bloods” in the months leading up to the reveal, I think incredible restraint is being shown around here in terms of not calling people out over it or making a “fuss”. I expected it to be absolute open season on a few outspoken members, to be honest.
The funny thing to me is that the posts I saw that were the most rude were by people who really had no evidence to back up their assertions other than rumors and conjecture, and lacked the knowledge, skill and ability to technically evaluate what actually were valid possibilities for the engine configuration.
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10-27-2021, 05:23 PM
#888
Considering how the TT vs NA debate was basically “crips vs bloods” in the months leading up to the reveal, I think incredible restraint is being shown around here in terms of not calling people out over it or making a “fuss”. I expected it to be absolute open season on a few outspoken members, to be honest.
I knew it would happen. Because it made sense. But no one wanted to believe it. They really thought it would be 700hp or more, with TT and cost 85k.
So not only was it not TT, but it wasn't 700hp and it's NOT going to be 85k starting.
I mean i hate to say i told you so, because i did say i wouldn't say it. But i mean............lol
10-27-2021, 05:26 PM
#889
The issue for me was how downright rude and condescending some people, on both sides of the debate, were to people who had a different opinion of what the engine would end up being. The issue was not infrequent in the thread "Does it Make Sense For The Z06 To Have A Naturally Aspirated Engine?" Other people, probably most, maintained congeniality, which makes the forum more enjoyable.
The funny thing to me is that the posts I saw that were the most rude were by people who really had no evidence to back up their assertions other than rumors and conjecture, and lacked the knowledge, skill and ability to technically evaluate what actually were valid possibilities for the engine configuration.
The funny thing to me is that the posts I saw that were the most rude were by people who really had no evidence to back up their assertions other than rumors and conjecture, and lacked the knowledge, skill and ability to technically evaluate what actually were valid possibilities for the engine configuration.
No. I simply stated what i wanted and what i wish for. And i also said it made sense to do it that way. But of course, like any other, it's all guesswork. Well my guesswork proved to be right.
I'm not going to flaunt it because in the end we're all going to get a chance at THE VERY BEST Z06 EVER MADE. So we should be happy. Even if it's not TT like what most want.
And if you still want TT, get on the waiting list for the ZR1.
I just am in total shock still we finally got what we wanted. And by we, i mean those who wanted this.
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10-27-2021, 05:30 PM
#890
The issue for me was how downright rude and condescending some people, on both sides of the debate, were to people who had a different opinion of what the engine would end up being. The issue was not infrequent in the thread "Does it Make Sense For The Z06 To Have A Naturally Aspirated Engine?" Other people, probably most, maintained congeniality, which makes the forum more enjoyable.
The funny thing to me is that the posts I saw that were the most rude were by people who really had no evidence to back up their assertions other than rumors and conjecture, and lacked the knowledge, skill and ability to technically evaluate what actually were valid possibilities for the engine configuration.
The funny thing to me is that the posts I saw that were the most rude were by people who really had no evidence to back up their assertions other than rumors and conjecture, and lacked the knowledge, skill and ability to technically evaluate what actually were valid possibilities for the engine configuration.
I posted a few times that my preference for NA or TT changed every time one of the more obnoxious people posted something. It was kind of a joke but not really.. lol.
I do find it strange that two of the most over the top obnoxious posters, one from each side of the argument, has been MIA since the reveal. I wonder if their over the top posts got them banned a few days before the reveal lol One of them for sure went completely off the rails and lost their mind a few days before. I'm not going to call anyone out, but I'm sure everyone knows who I'm talking about.
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10-27-2021, 06:11 PM
#891
Le Mans Master
I know i wasn't being condescending. Other people were name calling me and mocking my posts. But i never name called. I never said, "no you're an idiot you're gonna be wrong!! watch!!".
No. I simply stated what i wanted and what i wish for. And i also said it made sense to do it that way. But of course, like any other, it's all guesswork. Well my guesswork proved to be right.
I'm not going to flaunt it because in the end we're all going to get a chance at THE VERY BEST Z06 EVER MADE. So we should be happy. Even if it's not TT like what most want.
And if you still want TT, get on the waiting list for the ZR1.
I just am in total shock still we finally got what we wanted. And by we, i mean those who wanted this.
No. I simply stated what i wanted and what i wish for. And i also said it made sense to do it that way. But of course, like any other, it's all guesswork. Well my guesswork proved to be right.
I'm not going to flaunt it because in the end we're all going to get a chance at THE VERY BEST Z06 EVER MADE. So we should be happy. Even if it's not TT like what most want.
And if you still want TT, get on the waiting list for the ZR1.
I just am in total shock still we finally got what we wanted. And by we, i mean those who wanted this.
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10-27-2021, 06:45 PM
#892
Track oriented.
Back to the roots.
Most powerful NA engine in a production car.
C8R car for the street (or something of that wording).
Same 5.5l engine from the race car (when in the past the street car never got the race car engine?)
This C8 Z06 has been destined to be the FINAL, and GREATEST z06 ever made. And i also said this months ago, probably a year now.
I had faith in GM, when my posts in the past has been praising porsche and what they did. That upset a lot of people and they said GM could do it better.
I now agree with them. GM did it. They gave us the final z06. The best one ever.
Thank you GM!
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10-27-2021, 10:16 PM
#893
10-27-2021, 11:16 PM
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10-28-2021, 08:43 AM
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I think a lot of people just wanted close to 700 hp and some were guessing 600 hp. Luckily the LT6 is a lot closer to 700 than 600. Engineering explained on youtube has a great video on how they did it, his and speed phenoms video I will watch multiple times between now and when I get my Z06.
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11-06-2021, 05:44 AM
#897
Instructor
11-06-2021, 06:42 AM
#898
10.6 not bad!!!
That's still faster than the outgoing z06 at 10.95!
That's still faster than the outgoing z06 at 10.95!
11-06-2021, 07:23 AM
#900
Ehh. I know what the typical response will be here so I don’t know I bother but I have to say it. My 4100+ lb gt500 does 10.6 as per ford. The c7 zr1 is 10.6 s per gm and my long sold c7 sc757 Callaway z06 did 10.5 as per Callaway. So while this isn’t the end of the world and I know you guys are going to preach 100000 times it’s road course car blah blah it still would have been nice to see 10.2/3 ish. Just because. I know it’s not a straight line car buy an eray buy a zr1 blah blah. Every super car gets run through the 1/4 mile road course car or not and allot of people like to see the numbers and watch. Ehhh it is what it is I guess.
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