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Old 08-01-2021, 02:46 PM
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I have the #6 spot on a Zo6 list. at a Dealership at MSRP. I maybe going to something else and not need my spot.

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Originally Posted by r00t61
Depends on what your list contract language says:

* Does it require the dealership to sell to YOU specifically (by name)
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* Does it just require the dealership to deliver a vehicle at MSRP within a certain time window, etc

Because from the dealer's point of view, they want to be the ones to $ell the spot on the list, not YOU
What list contract? Dealer takes your $ and contact info. and puts your name on a list...That's it. That spot, and whatever the dealer told you that you would pay if and when the car is ultimately delivered are totally up to that Dealer and NOTHING is guaranteed. You would have to be a complete idiot to pay someone for their spot in line unless the Dealer approved the transfer and everything was documented in writing, which no Dealer is going to do. Can you imagine all the ill will a Dealer would generate if they allowed 3rd parties to jump their way in line like this. Dealers are there to sell cars, not to create and oversee a secondary market in purchase reservations.
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Originally Posted by socal2fast
I have the #6 spot on a Zo6 list. at a Dealership at MSRP. I maybe going to something else and not need my spot.
Depends on what your list contract language says:

* Does it require the dealership to sell to YOU specifically (by name)
OR
* Does it just require the dealership to deliver a vehicle at MSRP within a certain time window, etc

Because from the dealer's point of view, they want to be the ones to $ell the spot on the list, not YOU
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Originally Posted by r00t61
Depends on what your list contract language says:

* Does it require the dealership to sell to YOU specifically (by name)
OR
* Does it just require the dealership to deliver a vehicle at MSRP within a certain time window, etc

Because from the dealer's point of view, they want to be the ones to $ell the spot on the list, not YOU
What list contract? Dealer takes your $ and contact info. and puts your name on a list...That's it. That spot, and whatever the dealer told you that you would pay if and when the car is ultimately delivered are totally up to that Dealer and NOTHING is guaranteed. You would have to be a complete idiot to pay someone for their spot in line unless the Dealer approved the transfer and everything was documented in writing, which no Dealer is going to do. Can you imagine all the ill will a Dealer would generate if they allowed 3rd parties to jump their way in line like this. Dealers are there to sell cars, not to create and oversee a secondary market in purchase reservations.

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Old 08-01-2021, 05:52 PM
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How can you sell something you don’t own?
The list is owned by the dealer. The deposit is just allowing you to put your name on the list at a certain number in the order they received.

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Take delivery, sell the car itself. Or refund your deposit and walk away. You have nothing to sell at this point. You have no car, no sales contract, nothing. You are a name on an excel spreadsheet and that's it.
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Originally Posted by blue_bomber697
Take delivery, sell the car itself. Or refund your deposit and walk away. You have nothing to sell at this point. You have no car, no sales contract, nothing. You are a name on an excel spreadsheet and that's it.
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Originally Posted by donkeyssuck
What list contract? Dealer takes your $ and contact info. and puts your name on a list...That's it. That spot, and whatever the dealer told you that you would pay if and when the car is ultimately delivered are totally up to that Dealer and NOTHING is guaranteed. You would have to be a complete idiot to pay someone for their spot in line unless the Dealer approved the transfer and everything was documented in writing, which no Dealer is going to do. Can you imagine all the ill will a Dealer would generate if they allowed 3rd parties to jump their way in line like this. Dealers are there to sell cars, not to create and oversee a secondary market in purchase reservations.
Dealers don't give squat about ill will when it comes to making money. Selling an allocation reservation is common practice for Ferraris, Mclarens, higher-end Porsche GT cars, you name it. The 991.2 GT3 was a textbook example of this; and the 992 GT3 is repeating this scenario in real-time, with the bug-caused supply chain issues making it even more of a seller's market.

Selling reservations and slapping ADMs on supply-constrained cars is a dealer's perfect dream - a way to increase margin while putting in essentially zero effort. For every potential buyer that is "offended" by these practices and walks away, there are two guys happy to enter the line.
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Take the car order with wanted options and even with tax if you don’t want it Flip it. You will be ahead of the game, then don’t have to worry about dealer screwing the person who takes your spot.
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Originally Posted by r00t61
Dealers don't give squat about ill will when it comes to making money. Selling an allocation reservation is common practice for Ferraris, Mclarens, higher-end Porsche GT cars, you name it. The 991.2 GT3 was a textbook example of this; and the 992 GT3 is repeating this scenario in real-time, with the bug-caused supply chain issues making it even more of a seller's market.

Selling reservations and slapping ADMs on supply-constrained cars is a dealer's perfect dream - a way to increase margin while putting in essentially zero effort. For every potential buyer that is "offended" by these practices and walks away, there are two guys happy to enter the line.
That's nice, but the OP was talking about Corvettes where list contracts for allocation reservations, at least to my knowledge, aren't utilized and supported by GM dealers.
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Originally Posted by donkeyssuck
That's nice, but the OP was talking about Corvettes where list contracts for allocation reservations, at least to my knowledge, aren't utilized and supported by GM dealers.
Then wheres the problem. OP keeps his name on the list, car comes in, other guy pays him off to take delivery?
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Scalpers are the scum of the earth. Don't be one- just give up your spot if you no longer need it so that someone else can get their car timely.

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Old 08-02-2021, 10:27 AM
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I have sold 6 spots, LLC swaps, very easy. I am working to get on another dealer list when announced at least 2-3 more dealers and I have multiple LLCs.

Should be able to secure about 11 or so cars and I am getting $40K over MSRP so far.
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Originally Posted by jim2527
Then wheres the problem. OP keeps his name on the list, car comes in, other guy pays him off to take delivery?
If original buyer takes title then he would be selling the car, not his spot in line. If the original buyer does not intend to take title (straw buyer), then the dealer is not obligated to sell the car to that 3rd party. Why would a dealer sell to that 3rd party at MSRP when they could easily sell the car to a new buyer for MSRP+++?
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Originally Posted by donkeyssuck
If original buyer takes title then he would be selling the car, not his spot in line. If the original buyer does not intend to take title (straw buyer), then the dealer is not obligated to sell the car to that 3rd party. Why would a dealer sell to that 3rd party at MSRP when they could easily sell the car to a new buyer for MSRP+++?
2nd party 3rd party who cares? Some dealers sell at MSRP and some don’t. Thats their call.
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Is the "spot" MSRP or are you charging an administration fee?
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Is the "spot" MSRP or are you charging an administration fee?

Administration fee is $40,000.

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Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect
Scalpers are the scum of the earth. Don't be one- just give up your spot if you no longer need it.
Exactly Pure Greed.
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Originally Posted by rob62
Is the "spot" MSRP or are you charging an administration fee?
No. I have a spot and the dealership is charging MSRP.


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