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Old 03-30-2021, 05:03 PM
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Default MotorTrend Says E-Ray Corvette Will Be Quicker than the C8 Z06

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If we believe that the E-Ray will come with total of 590 hp and only 215 hp will come from the front electric motor! so what engine that produces 375 hp they are gonna put in the rear? A lightweight V6 engine!! Maybe



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Why anyone puts any weight on anything MT says is beyond me as they struggle with simple math.
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Why anyone puts any weight on anything MT says is beyond me as they struggle with simple math.
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Originally Posted by vndkshn
Why anyone puts any weight on anything MT says is beyond me as they struggle with simple math.
Were they the ones with dyno numbers for the base model that were all out of whack?
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The C8 also dynos 580 whp according to MT..... Years ago the base engine was supposed to be DOHC 5.5 according to them, built side by side with the C7, then Z06 will be NA 5.5 FPC(despite the cad) yet no one can explain how it could meet any epa requirements and make that much power, now this....

MT = LOL
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None of this makes sense. GM is tight lipped about the ERAY powertrain, but we believe it to be a dual electric motor setup. Motortrend lost its inside source to GMs SKUNKWORKS projects apparently. At this moment, all the information is skeptical about what the hybrids intentions actually are. The initial reports of the Z06 being the only track focused car might come to light very soon. The ERAY must be a performance ONLY hybrid otherwise it will be too heavy.
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Originally Posted by New car dude
None of this makes sense. GM is tight lipped about the ERAY powertrain, but we believe it to be a dual electric motor setup. Motortrend lost its inside source to GMs SKUNKWORKS projects apparently. At this moment, all the information is skeptical about what the hybrids intentions actually are. The initial reports of the Z06 being the only track focused car might come to light very soon. The ERAY must be a performance ONLY hybrid otherwise it will be too heavy.
Based on the C8 cutaway we have already seen, I believe the ERay will come with single front electric motor in the middle







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Originally Posted by New car dude
None of this makes sense. GM is tight lipped about the ERAY powertrain, but we believe it to be a dual electric motor setup. Motortrend lost its inside source to GMs SKUNKWORKS projects apparently. At this moment, all the information is skeptical about what the hybrids intentions actually are. The initial reports of the Z06 being the only track focused car might come to light very soon. The ERAY must be a performance ONLY hybrid otherwise it will be too heavy.
I think if GM doesn't announce the z06 by summer, that will probably make a lot of people drop out of the list.

So in a way i want them to announce it but if they don't, and that will make me move up to a 1st year, then i hope they don't announce it lol.
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Originally Posted by New car dude
None of this makes sense. GM is tight lipped about the ERAY powertrain, but we believe it to be a dual electric motor setup. Motortrend lost its inside source to GMs SKUNKWORKS projects apparently. At this moment, all the information is skeptical about what the hybrids intentions actually are. The initial reports of the Z06 being the only track focused car might come to light very soon. The ERAY must be a performance ONLY hybrid otherwise it will be too heavy.
Actually I would think it is really clear - substantially raise the mpg of the "Corvette Line". GM was preparing for the requirements that Trump temporarily delayed. It should be full steam ahead. This isn't something you plan 1 or 2 years in advance. Also, you do not simply add the ICE hp to the electric motor hp to get total hp. They are at different curves. So 490 ICE + 150 electric would not give you a total 640 hp.
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Originally Posted by Z0HS1CK
I think if GM doesn't announce the z06 by summer, that will probably make a lot of people drop out of the list.

So in a way i want them to announce it but if they don't, and that will make me move up to a 1st year, then i hope they don't announce it lol.
I'm honestly one of those people.

I'm 3 years into my warranty on my 2019 Grand Sport M7. Values are pretty high on the GS atm, so I will be looking to unload by next spring (new owners get 1 year bumper 2 bumper + wheels/tires warranty).

If the Z06 isn't announced by then or there's a multi year wait at "over MSRP" I think I'm gonna bail and look elsewhere in the $90 - $120k range and that ride will probably tide me over as my last gas powered car.

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Originally Posted by oregonsharkman
I'm honestly one of those people.

I'm 3 years into my warranty on my 2019 Grand Sport M7. Values are pretty high on the GS atm, so I will be looking to unload by next spring (new owners get 1 year bumper 2 bumper + wheels/tires warranty).

If the Z06 isn't announced by then or there's a multi year wait at "over MSRP" I think I'm gonna bail and look elsewhere in the $90 - $120k range and that ride will probably tide me over as my last gas powered car.
I'm checking every so often the value of my car. Honestly i think it went up? Or stabilized? I have an M7 so maybe that helped.

Once i see it start tanking, and the C8Z is still far away, might have to just put it for sale and then just wait on the C8Z.

I bought new tires and doing full tune up to the car this summer because i expect to still have it another 2 years at least

Really want that C8Z already.
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Originally Posted by New car dude
None of this makes sense. GM is tight lipped about the ERAY powertrain, but we believe it to be a dual electric motor setup. Motortrend lost its inside source to GMs SKUNKWORKS projects apparently. At this moment, all the information is skeptical about what the hybrids intentions actually are. The initial reports of the Z06 being the only track focused car might come to light very soon. The ERAY must be a performance ONLY hybrid otherwise it will be too heavy.
Motor trend should hire you instead so they can get all the up to date info on GM’s new products.
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Originally Posted by Iker
More speculations!
If we believe that the E-Ray will come with total of 590 hp and only 215 hp will come from the front electric motor! so what engine that produces 375 hp they are gonna put in the rear? A lightweight V6 engine!! Maybe


Here they go with the corvette suv nonsense again. It’s already been said the vehicles in the presentation were Chevy & Buick variants of small cross-overs, not an electric Corvette suv. GM already has 18-20 whatever SUVs, there is no need for a Corvette SUV. I’m not sure why this is difficult for car mags & people, but Porsche is a brand & their various vehicles are models of said brand. Corvette is a model & GM/Chevy is the brand. Cannot compare the two with regards to offerings.

Just look at what happened to SRT when they tried to make that it’s own brand - not successful.
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Originally Posted by JABCAT
Here they go with the corvette suv nonsense again. It’s already been said the vehicles in the presentation were Chevy & Buick variants of small cross-overs, not an electric Corvette suv. GM already has 18-20 whatever SUVs, there is no need for a Corvette SUV. I’m not sure why this is difficult for car mags & people, but Porsche is a brand & their various vehicles are models of said brand. Corvette is a model & GM/Chevy is the brand. Cannot compare the two with regards to offerings.

Just look at what happened to SRT when they tried to make that it’s own brand - not successful.
In regards to GM, I think it would be more about name recognition with a Corvette SUV just like Ford is doing with the Mustang Mach E.
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When Porsche introduced the Cayenne, Porsche purists were aghast.... but they've made a fortune off of them, and its possible, that we wouldn't have Porsches without the money coming from SUVs.... It's just brand leveraging.... and a significant number of my Porsche buddies also drive a Cayanne, Mecan or Panamaras as a DD... smart.

As soon as Corvette announced the mid-engine, a 4wd hybrid was a guaranteed slam-dunk certainty.... every other performance car manufacturers offers one.... its inevitable.... and if you don't like it, just don't buy one....
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Originally Posted by B-Myster
In regards to GM, I think it would be more about name recognition with a Corvette SUV just like Ford is doing with the Mustang Mach E.
My first car was a 69 Mustang. Naming that car "Mustang Mach E" is so insulting to the Mustang legacy, I would never consider buying one. If they had call it the Escape E, I might consider it. or maybe the E-vader.
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My first car was a 69 Mustang. Naming that car "Mustang Mach E" is so insulting to the Mustang legacy, I would never consider buying one. If they had call it the Escape E, I might consider it. or maybe the E-vader.
I think the Mustang II was far more insulting to the Mustang name than the Mach E.
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Originally Posted by Iker
More speculations!
If we believe that the E-Ray will come with total of 590 hp and only 215 hp will come from the front electric motor! so what engine that produces 375 hp they are gonna put in the rear? A lightweight V6 engine!! Maybe

Don't overthink those HP numbers. The HP of the electric and gas motors are not (usually) additive, so the gas engine will have more than 375.

Also, the title should be quicker 0-60m as the article posted makes it clear that the Z06 will be generally quicker. Always hard to beat anything with decent electric motors off the line to start....
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Originally Posted by B-Myster
I think the Mustang II was far more insulting to the Mustang name than the Mach E.
Haaa.....

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Originally Posted by jcp911s
When Porsche introduced the Cayenne, Porsche purists were aghast.... but they've made a fortune off of them, and its possible, that we wouldn't have Porsches without the money coming from SUVs.... It's just brand leveraging.... and a significant number of my Porsche buddies also drive a Cayanne, Mecan or Panamaras as a DD... smart.

As soon as Corvette announced the mid-engine, a 4wd hybrid was a guaranteed slam-dunk certainty.... every other performance car manufacturers offers one.... its inevitable.... and if you don't like it, just don't buy one....
But the key difference here was that Porsche was already a brand, with multiple different models through the years.. 911, 924, 928 etc. Corvette is a car. A singular model. And throwing some batteries in a crossover and calling it a Corvette is not creative, it's silly, lazy, and unoriginal. Sticking a "corvette" emblem on it isn't going to make or break the success of a new electric crossover, it's success or failure will be be far more dependent on people's reception of it. (is it fun to drive, a good value for what you get compared to other options, is it reliable or plagued with problems, etc). It's nothing more than a "me too" answer to the Mustang Mach E, which most reviews say is a "fun" crossover, but it is not in any way a Mustang.

But it will forever change what the name Corvette means, and I personally think that's an unnecessary, and unfortunate move, especially in regards to people who passionately love Corvettes.

Just my thoughts.


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Originally Posted by B-Myster
I think the Mustang II was far more insulting to the Mustang name than the Mach E.
I won’t be buying one of those either. At least it tried, it could be had with a V8 and all cars were slugs. It had the right general shape. Mach E is just wrong on so many levels.


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