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Old 03-20-2021, 04:17 AM
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Exposed! More 2023 Corvette E-Ray Details


The Corvette's electric future is taking shape.

There's been plenty of talk lately about the upcoming C8 Corvette Z06, although it may not be the most interesting new variant. That honor could fall to the hybrid model, rumored to be called the E-Ray. Given GM's announcement it plans to be an all-electric automaker by 2035, the Corvette's future (assuming it has one) is pure electrification and the E-Ray represents the first step in making that happen. Supposedly due for the 2023 model year, new details have been revealed thanks to SAE.org writer Don Sherman. The information appears to be quite accurate.

The E-Ray will take the place of the Grand Sport, which we've known for a while now, meaning it'll be slotted in between the base Stingray and the more hardcore Z06 and, further into the future, the also rumored ZR1 Zora. As expected, the aluminum structure of the Chevy Corvette Stingray is already designed to accommodate GM's Ultium "pouch style" lithium-ion battery cells.

They'll be located in a 2-cubic-foot "box" within the structure's backbone that currently houses coolant lines from the front radiators to the LT2 V8 engine. Already done and ready to go for the hybrid are the C8 Stingray's front spring, damper, and steering components that'll enable a pair of electric motors to have a straight shot to the car's front wheel hubs.

The E-Ray's drive system also sounds quite interesting and the details here are quite precise: "Two independently controlled 50-plus hp (37-plus kW) AC electric motors butted together will raise the Corvette hybrid's total output to more than 600 hp (448 kW). The mid-mounted LT2 6.2-L V8 and its 8-speed Tremec dual-clutch transaxle will continue in the E-Ray's hybrid system with minimal changes." These motors, as expected, will take up a chunk of the front trunk space though exactly how much is still unknown.

Another unanswered question is whether the E-Ray will be a hybrid or plug-in hybrid. Regardless, "significant performance" improvements will happen thanks in part to an improved power-to-weight ratio and enhanced launch and traction capabilities with the "eAWD" system. The hybrid system may even be able to "give the motor a break" by being capable of fully powering the car when cruising. Improved fuel economy numbers are another hybrid system benefit.

In fact, the E-Ray Vette will be eligible to access city centers where combustion-engined vehicles will soon be banned. The cost for all of this? Less than $100,000 for sure.

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03-20-2021, 08:48 AM
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Actually Hybrids make much more sense than total E cars. Why the hell all these nut job executives are pushing total E cars in 10-15 years when there's no way the present infrastructure can support them? It's like the whole world has gone bonkers! I'm convinced that our civilization is committing suicide.
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Sounds putrid, ya know a turbo weighs a lot less than a battery pack and other assorted bullshit to make it work......Thing will weigh 4000lbs lol 😂



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I cannot wait for the e-ray my Volt is awesome .
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Actually Hybrids make much more sense than total E cars. Why the hell all these nut job executives are pushing total E cars in 10-15 years when there's no way the present infrastructure can support them? It's like the whole world has gone bonkers! I'm convinced that our civilization is committing suicide.
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I cannot wait either. Already told my dealer, as I await my C8. As I've written before, if it has torque vectoring and is integrated with the IC engine, it will be a blast to drive, with immense and immediate torque. All this talk about it being an electric vehicle is simply incorrect. Take a look at Ferrari's SF90 Stradale -- yes, it's heavy and there's a loss of luggage space -- and you'll get some idea of what the E-Ray could be, at $600,000 less.
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Already posted a couple of weeks ago.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...y-sherman.html
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Originally Posted by Mike Campbell
Actually Hybrids make much more sense than total E cars. Why the hell all these nut job executives are pushing total E cars in 10-15 years when there's no way the present infrastructure can support them? It's like the whole world has gone bonkers! I'm convinced that our civilization is committing suicide.
LOL, well just look at what GM/Cadillac did with the Blackwing engine - they are ALL clueless and incapable of making quality decisions!
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Corvette- it was nice knowing ya and I'll never forget the good times we had.
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Originally Posted by Mike Campbell
Actually Hybrids make much more sense than total E cars. Why the hell all these nut job executives are pushing total E cars in 10-15 years when there's no way the present infrastructure can support them? It's like the whole world has gone bonkers! I'm convinced that our civilization is committing suicide.
In the beginning, steam and electric cars were used.... everybody though ICE were crazy because there was "no infrastructure to support them".... last time I looked, there was a gas station on every street corner....

When I started working for AT&T, my first project was "DDS" (Digital Data Service"... the first end to end digital transmission that did not use a modem.... it was available in speeds of 2.4, 4.8, and, and 9.6KBPS.... it also offered 56KBS, but I was told by the "Strategic Planners" at AT&T General Departments, that "56KBS is too fast and nobody is actually going to buy it..."

Today, I have 100M service to my house...
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I wouldn’t trust info from any source that believes the motors will be mounted where the frunk is, way out in front of the front axle line. Looking at the cutaway C8 from the reveal, there is no reason why front motors would change the frunk volume.
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Wait...regular cars are being banned? Oh
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Originally Posted by jcp911s
In the beginning, steam and electric cars were used.... everybody though ICE were crazy because there was "no infrastructure to support them".... last time I looked, there was a gas station on every street corner....

When I started working for AT&T, my first project was "DDS" (Digital Data Service"... the first end to end digital transmission that did not use a modem.... it was available in speeds of 2.4, 4.8, and, and 9.6KBPS.... it also offered 56KBS, but I was told by the "Strategic Planners" at AT&T General Departments, that "56KBS is too fast and nobody is actually going to buy it..."

Today, I have 100M service to my house...
The infrastructure to service 10s of millions of vehicles on electrical power only would take decades to build. The United States and Europe dont have the resources or the money to implement such a plan. The United states infrastructure dosent have high speed rail yet. The infrastructure of a entire brand new economy hasnt actually been thought out by anyone.
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Originally Posted by yz250fPilot
LOL, well just look at what GM/Cadillac did with the Blackwing engine - they are ALL clueless and incapable of making quality decisions!
I am all for Cadillac, but I am disappointed they let that amazing engine go to waste!
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Exposed! More 2023 Corvette E-Ray Details


The Corvette's electric future is taking shape.

There's been plenty of talk lately about the upcoming C8 Corvette Z06, although it may not be the most interesting new variant. That honor could fall to the hybrid model, rumored to be called the E-Ray. Given GM's announcement it plans to be an all-electric automaker by 2035, the Corvette's future (assuming it has one) is pure electrification and the E-Ray represents the first step in making that happen. Supposedly due for the 2023 model year, new details have been revealed thanks to SAE.org writer Don Sherman. The information appears to be quite accurate.

The E-Ray will take the place of the Grand Sport, which we've known for a while now, meaning it'll be slotted in between the base Stingray and the more hardcore Z06 and, further into the future, the also rumored ZR1 Zora. As expected, the aluminum structure of the Chevy Corvette Stingray is already designed to accommodate GM's Ultium "pouch style" lithium-ion battery cells.

They'll be located in a 2-cubic-foot "box" within the structure's backbone that currently houses coolant lines from the front radiators to the LT2 V8 engine. Already done and ready to go for the hybrid are the C8 Stingray's front spring, damper, and steering components that'll enable a pair of electric motors to have a straight shot to the car's front wheel hubs.

The E-Ray's drive system also sounds quite interesting and the details here are quite precise: "Two independently controlled 50-plus hp (37-plus kW) AC electric motors butted together will raise the Corvette hybrid's total output to more than 600 hp (448 kW). The mid-mounted LT2 6.2-L V8 and its 8-speed Tremec dual-clutch transaxle will continue in the E-Ray's hybrid system with minimal changes." These motors, as expected, will take up a chunk of the front trunk space though exactly how much is still unknown.

Another unanswered question is whether the E-Ray will be a hybrid or plug-in hybrid. Regardless, "significant performance" improvements will happen thanks in part to an improved power-to-weight ratio and enhanced launch and traction capabilities with the "eAWD" system. The hybrid system may even be able to "give the motor a break" by being capable of fully powering the car when cruising. Improved fuel economy numbers are another hybrid system benefit.

In fact, the E-Ray Vette will be eligible to access city centers where combustion-engined vehicles will soon be banned. The cost for all of this? Less than $100,000 for sure.

It will be "slotted" between the Z06 and the ZR1.
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Originally Posted by harley2
It will be "slotted" between the Z06 and the ZR1.
Why would you think that?
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Originally Posted by New car dude
The infrastructure to service 10s of millions of vehicles on electrical power only would take decades to build. The United States and Europe dont have the resources or the money to implement such a plan. The United states infrastructure dosent have high speed rail yet. The infrastructure of a entire brand new economy hasnt actually been thought out by anyone.
An article in my local paper reports that the 2022 Chevy Bolt EV can be recharged over night by a 120v outlet when the daily use does not exceed 40 miles. 240v outlet about 8 times faster. Could require 240v for longer trips and larger batteries.
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Originally Posted by harley2
It will be "slotted" between the Z06 and the ZR1.
If so, we need a GS.

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If so, we need a GS.
will be interesting to see the price, and the price of the Z06. At 600HP I would hope it’s slotted between the stingray and Z06. Does that suggest the Z06 price differential from the Stingray maybe higher than the C7 since electric additions usually comes at a steep price relative to the gas equivalent.
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Originally Posted by ShadyVette
will be interesting to see the price, and the price of the Z06. At 600HP I would hope it’s slotted between the stingray and Z06. Does that suggest the Z06 price differential from the Stingray maybe higher than the C7 since electric additions usually comes at a steep price relative to the gas equivalent.
If it occupies the spot where the GS used to be, should be priced similarly $67-70k would be a good offering with AWD and 575-600HP, even if it’s not a wide body.
Z06 rumors have the price at or around $85k starting.
Should do quite well and not cannibalize Z06 sales too much.

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Originally Posted by ZRacerLE
If so, we need a GS.
Who knows, maybe one of those camo cars are the GS? It would be a shame to lose the racing heritage and the Grand Sport name to “E-Ray” 🙄
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