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Old 02-02-2021, 08:43 PM
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We are all impatiently waiting on Big Nasty 2.0 to arrive. Any little tidbit keeps us going. I came across this video with Alexander Rossi saying he has a friend who drives for team corvette, basically saying the Z is the race car without stickers


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02-04-2021, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Latterlon
For what it’s worth, on the most recent TST podcast with Jonny Lieberman (Motortrend), he said it is twin turbo.... @38:21
https://youtu.be/qZI8J_vW7Js?t=38m21s
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Do you know for sure the GTLM C8 drivers are part of the C8Z test program? Admittedly big name people but they can speculate as well (or as badly) as we can.

Rossi either says or implies the race transmission and the street transmission are the same. I doubt that very much. The Corvette GTLM program has always used a full out race transmission. While the C8 8-speed DCT may be state of the art street transmission, it is not a race transmission. The Street transmission has to be street user friendly. The race transmission has none of those required compromises.
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Old 02-02-2021, 09:31 PM
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I ain’t know a darn thing. I’m just like the rest of us hanging on to whatever tidbit we can get.
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Originally Posted by keagan
basically saying the Z is a race car without stickers
There is no law that prevents you from putting stickers on it !!
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I thought the body and likely some streetable version of the powerplant were foregone conclusions....... The R's have always been dead ringers for the street car. Once again, the new ZO6 will be amazing, performance and design
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Originally Posted by SD1
I thought the body and likely some streetable version of the powerplant were foregone conclusions....... The R's have always been dead ringers for the street car.
Bodies are all carbon fiber, splitters, rear wings, rear undertray and all the aero ducting are different from the street cars. Since the C5 they have been 5.5L SBCs of some variations. The transmissions have always been pure racing transmissions. Brakes were only related in that they were disk brakes. Interior is all pure race car. Cooling all race car. Essentially they are somewhat a silhouette of the street car. For a while at least the Amreican LeMans SCCA cars did run a 7L SBC.

The race cars have $800K in "modifications" from the basic car.

My NASCAR Ford Taurus supposedly had the roof and trunk from Ford and the block presumably came out of some Ford foundry. I never saw a street Tuarus with the trunk lid shaped like the race car even without the spoiler. Other than that nothing from the street car. Oh yes, also it was solid axle RWD.

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In the GTLM class, almost nothing is the same as the street car it is based upon. GTD class is bit closer, but they also are heavily modified.
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Originally Posted by SD1
I thought the body and likely some streetable version of the powerplant were foregone conclusions....... The R's have always been dead ringers for the street car. Once again, the new ZO6 will be amazing, performance and design
Dead ringers? Loosely based.. maybe, I doubt they'd ever be confused for one another.
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Originally Posted by AzDave47
Do you know for sure the GTLM C8 drivers are part of the C8Z test program? Admittedly big name people but they can speculate as well (or as badly) as we can.

Rossi either says or implies the race transmission and the street transmission are the same. I doubt that very much. The Corvette GTLM program has always used a full out race transmission. While the C8 8-speed DCT may be state of the art street transmission, it is not a race transmission. The Street transmission has to be street user friendly. The race transmission has none of those required compromises.
Yes, Corvette Racing drivers were involved in the base C8 development, so can't imagine they wouldn't be involved in the C8Z. Here is video of Oliver Gavin being involved in development at the Nurburgring (notice camo test mules in background as he speaks):

By Rossi saying it's "essentially the C8.R without stickers" is very obviously hyperbole but what he really means is "it's as close as you can get to the C8.R but made to be streetable" so by that statement I would expect it to have a NA FPC and a similar look as the C8.R.

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Yep-after all of the C8Z threads that have hit this forum, this is by far, the to closest to reality from a relatively believable source. I also enjoyed the whiskey collection anecdote. Who knew you couldn't insure a whiskey collection? Not being facetious.
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It bears reminding folks that the IMSA GT classes are limited to about 500HP, about the same as the base C8. The street C7 Z06 had 150 more supercharged HP than the C7R, which was normally aspirated.

Also for 2022, the current GTLM class, where C8R currently competes, will be abolished. If C8R stays in the preeminent road racing series in the US, it will have to drop down to the GTD class which is currently based upon GT3 specs.

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Originally Posted by SD1
I thought the body and likely some streetable version of the powerplant were foregone conclusions....... The R's have always been dead ringers for the street car. Once again, the new ZO6 will be amazing, performance and design
Not even close, lol. You might want to look at just how different the race cars are compared to the street car.
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Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect
Yes, Corvette Racing drivers were involved in the base C8 development, so can't imagine they wouldn't be involved in the C8Z. Here is video of Oliver Gavin being involved in development at the Nurburgring (notice camo test mules in background as he speaks):
https://youtu.be/GuQbLEHZEC8?t=190

By Rossi saying it's "essentially the C8.R without stickers" is very obviously hyperbole but what he really means is "it's as close as you can get to the C8.R but made to be streetable" so by that statement I would expect it to have a NA FPC and a similar look as the C8.R.
Originally Posted by Kiser64

Yep-after all of the C8Z threads that have hit this forum, this is by far, the to closest to reality from a relatively believable source. I also enjoyed the whiskey collection anecdote. Who knew you couldn't insure a whiskey collection? Not being facetious.


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Has anyone on this forum driven or rode in RS Porsches? That's the idea here folks. Car and driver seems to know what they are talking about with regards to this being the only track focused offer in the C8 lineup. For many enthusiast it will not be the offer of choice for enjoyment on the road. For track enthusiast it will be the best Corvette ever made. That 675hp number seems plausible as well.
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Originally Posted by New car dude
Has anyone on this forum driven or rode in RS Porsches? That's the idea here folks. Car and driver seems to know what they are talking about with regards to this being the only track focused offer in the C8 lineup. For many enthusiast it will not be the offer of choice for enjoyment on the road. For track enthusiast it will be the best Corvette ever made. That 675hp number seems plausible as well.
Sure it will be. Just look at how many they sold of each gen and which was the biggest hit of all of them. They're in it to make money.. and the Z06 being produced in excess of 10k per year is a shot in the arm for this gen as there will be 60 70k C8s on the road by the time it is available to order most likely.
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Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect

Rossi saying it's "essentially the C8.R without stickers" is very obviously hyperbole but what he really means is "it's as close as you can get to the C8.R but made to be streetable" so by that statement I would expect it to have a NA FPC and a similar look as the C8.R.
Exactly! A pro racing driver on the Corvette team (probably Milner based on age similarity to Rossi?) knows the difference between race cars and street cars better than anyone on this forum. It's not going to be a race car but a track capable street car. Big difference. But this is a strong signal that it's a similar NA engine, similar body and somewhat similar aero. That, for a street car, it will give a similar feel to the C8R.... and Rossi describes that really well in the video.

Thanks to the OP for this post... best new "data" on the C8 Z06 in many months!
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For what it’s worth, on the most recent TST podcast with Jonny Lieberman (Motortrend), he said it is twin turbo.... @38:21

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Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
There is no law that prevents you from putting stickers on it !!

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Originally Posted by Latterlon
For what it’s worth, on the most recent TST podcast with Jonny Lieberman (Motortrend), he said it is twin turbo.... @38:21
https://youtu.be/qZI8J_vW7Js?t=38m21s
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well the C8R doesn't have a DCT....and it has a clutch pedal!


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