JG853

I agree - I do think though that if the car performs well with 625HP or whatever it is, that will be enough for most to buy it. The Turbo S is a very nice car, but it is AWD, so comparing it to a C7 ZR1 from 0-60 is a bit of apples to oranges. The C7 ZR1 does handle it quite well on a road course - For example VIR, as well as the 720S. Plus, those cars are vastly more expensive than the C7 ZR1 or the C8 Z06 will be.

To me - If the C8 Z06 comes out and can do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds, top speed of 200 or more, and can launch as hard as the current C8 Stingray, it will be a winner, especially at $100,000. Not to many cars will compare to it for the price.

Sub Driver

Tadge has already stated that they try to take the next generation Z06 and make it equal or better to the previous gen ZR1. They did that with the C7 Z06 and C6 ZR1. It might not eclipse the C7 ZR1 in every category but it probably will in some.

Bwright

Yes. Obviously. May not be 700 hp+ but it will more than likely outperform a C7 ZR1 on track for much less money. Why do you find this funny?

Bwright

Exactly. And history has borne this out in track tests of record. That is exactly why I don't understand the question.

Z0HS1CK

Not only 0-60 but a ZR1 stock traps 130-133 depending on wing. A turbo s traps at 137.

So not only is it faster from a dig, obviously, but faster in a 1/4.

The C8Z WILL do faster 2.8 times, regardless of what's powering it.

I think it'll be a monster if TT, priced at 95-100.

Even if NA, and they charge 90, it'll still be a rocket.

Next few months will be hell as we wait that's for sure!!!

Telepierre

I am going for the Z06 HTC so I'll look at the power/torque/weight ratio vis a vis a C7 Z06 and take it from there comparing to Ferrari and McLaren MEs.

TB427Z06

If GM does something similar to what they did going from C6ZR1 638HP to C7Z06 650HP, then the C8Z06 should be a TT 750+HP. After owning aC7 ZR1 And now a C7Z06 I wouldn’t even consider a C8Z06 if it’s not TT 750+HP.
Otherwise I’ll keep my C7Z06 until the C8ZR1 comes out.

Arrowsigns

O.P. Been on the track with 570s in the next stall from me. Owner was losing a front panel underneath the side marker (front spoiler) that is held on by two clips. This happened to a car that had never been in a accident. Yes they are ultra fast but after seeing his troubles I would consider others before taking the Mclaren jump.
On the upcoming C8 I’m hoping for under 3700 lbs fueled, TT or NA secondary to weight.

Telepierre

^^^^^^
I actually agree with this assessment based on McLaren's recalls. Most of them related to body assembly issues and durability. The good news is the heavier real GT cars seem to have more "meat" on them and hopefully (for them) offer the right weight-durability balance.

fzust

The folks that want more power(which I get and agree with) gotta remember that the gearing is SO FREAKING TALL in the C7Z. Additionally, with shorter RPM window it is harder to hit the gear overlaps just right with 7spd.

If we had an NA FPC engine(or high revving TT) The gearing could be SO much shorter. 1. The ME chassis will put the power down so it doesn't need to be so tall. 2. The RPM window gives more flexibility with overlap so shorter gearing could give more acceleration. EX. GT3RS or 911 Turbo.

The only place you would seriously notice a power deficit is above 120mph or so. The rest of the time a lower torque/same HP C8Z would feel/measure faster.

Z0HS1CK

I mean who doesn't want more power? We all do.

But people really just think the C8 is just a refresh from previous corvettes. The C8 is an entirely new car. Everything is different.

I think people really are forgetting how much faster ME cars are, in relation to FE of similar power. I already proved that with the 640hp turbo s vs C7Z & C7ZR comparison. At least in terms of straight line performance. A turbo s would eat the entire C7 lineup. A car that traps 137. A car that does like 2.4-2.5 0-60 (owners have hit 2.2 often). The C8Z doesn't NEED 750hp. Wtf lol.

If the z06 gets this much power, then there's pretty much no use for both a ZR1 and a ZORA, unless GM is eliminating the ZR1 or having the ZR1 and the zora the same car. But asking for 750hp in a mid engine supercar for 85k is a stretch.

Of course it'll be awesome to have and i'll be happy as **** if it turned out to have that, because i'm getting one regardless. But it WILL come with a slightly bigger price tag.

The notion that people are wanting this HP, in an all new ME platform, yet GM will follow previous pricing structures is a bit funny to me lol.

Stll think it'll be 95k if it ends up TT lol

ZRacerLE

I'm still trying to figure out how the C8Z will out lap the C7 ZR1 or at least get close for a fraction of the price. I believe it will, but I think it will take a similar power level and/or a hardcore suspension like the ZL1 1LE. If they go with the hardcore suspension, I could see it happening with less than 700hp.

I say this because the C8 stingray barely out laps the C7 stingray. I expected the C8 chassis to be so good, that we'd see laptimes competitive with a C7Z, but it's actually slower than a C7 GS.

So looking at laptimes between the C7 and C8 stingrays, if the C8Z has equal power, brakes, and wheel width to the C7Z, it will be slightly faster.

Some other innovation must be coming with the C8Z, because I believe it will compete with a C7 ZR1 on a road course.

Telepierre

^^^^^^

ALL GOOD POINTS! Track wise, it seems overlooked how capable FEs have gotten and how an ME reposition still needs comparable power to comfortably prevail on the track at parity of other factors such as tires.

dvilin

If it out performs my 2019 Z then I am in.

Z0HS1CK

It will. even if its NA.

semperfi1946

Porsches are fine cars but highly overpriced, given how long the same Boring body style and engines have been in production. You get a stripped down base model with 2 way seats and "leatherette" and have to add 30 grand in a car to get "options" to make it luxurious. I have had 911s and Caymans and they we're fine handling cars, but small and austere inside, hard riding and rather claustrophobic, and had plenty of glitches -they just did not have the sound of or torque of a V8 for me - the new 718's with 4 bangers just do not get it for me and should be about 20k less in price given what they are and that pathetic sound. But that is just me

ZRacerLE

Needs to compete with a C7 ZR1, not a C7Z.

NORTY

Patience Chad, patience. All in do time.

Let's let the coupe have it's day in the sun, before the "Z" appears. (Oh, I wish I could say more...)

vrybad

I disagree,
There are a multitude of reasons why someone might buy a car like this.
Some, possibly many, buyers use the car mags/videos/road tests to find out how a car might perform and base their decision on that.
Many buyers also don't have either the access or inclination to take the car to a road course or to take the time to learn how to extract 9/10ths out of it.
Many buyers, IMO, buy the car for the "potential" and by reading/watching the reviews, they then can say "so this is what it feels like to drive a car with this kind of power and handling, etc..." without ever needing to wring it out to its max.
Kind of nice to have a great looking, great handling, powerful car to enjoy on a nice day.
Many clean garage queens out there...it isn't necessarily a bad thing.

fzust

The C8 is severely limited in front grip as we see them doing fairly extreme things with camber. The C7GS has mega grip comparatively and similar power to weight. At the track, power can make up for alot of ills esp if the track has good straightaways with slow entry corners.

IMHO, the C8Z should fix the front/rear tire ratio so that with optimum alignment the car isn't a plow. They can always push it out the door with -0.5 degree negative camber to make it a plow for the masses, but have the tools to dial it in properly.

Aside from that they can stiffen the springs and bars, but shouldn't have to go crazy because they can do alot of in in MR.

Then put gears 1-6 for "Normal Track Duty" 7 for "Big Track Duty" like Road America, Sebring, Nordshliefe, and 8 for EPA/Cruise. This will let the NA FPC Engine(See what I did there). Really stay in the power band.

Current gearing is way too spaced out 4 and up.

Do those things with 600+ HP and the car will be a monster.