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Does the C8 Front Lift reduce scrapes?

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Old 03-02-2023, 08:52 PM
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Does the C8 Front Lift reduce scrapes?
Or is it marketing hype to charge more?
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It's more crap to leak and break; even the engineers admitted it was cobbled together with brake parts.
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Originally Posted by Kracka
It's more crap to leak and break; even the engineers admitted it was cobbled together with brake parts.
My touch screen navigation died after my Prius scraped a sharp ramp into a Home Depot parking lot;
so more options spells more trouble. I imagine the Corvette is no different.
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Well, I have lowered my C8 3/4" all around to get the stance I want, and I have an American Hydrocarbon front splitter. I couldn't get by without the front life, but almost never scrape at all when I use it.
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i scrape my front splitter coming in and out of my driveway if i don't lift the front. there are also some steep entrances in and out of some parking lots in my area. definitely worth it for me to have it
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Originally Posted by mikeflores2000
Does the C8 Front Lift reduce scrapes?
Or is it marketing hype to charge more?
2020 with 20k miles use front lift daily. Works great definitely a plus. Would have ruined splitter without
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Works exactly as intended and I use it regularly; great for peace of mind driving in unfamiliar areas. For me it's a 'once you have it you wouldn't want to live without it' option. Especially after scraping everywhere in my prior gen Corvettes.
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I would 100% never buy a c8 without front lift. It's a game changer. My city has quite a lot of dips to entrances of places that absolutely scrape if I don't activate the lift, including my own driveway. It's so nice to not have to worry about taking those dips at an odd angle to avoid scraping. By the way -- you have the chance of damaging your wheels doing this too. Some entrance ways have lips on them that are high enough to scrape your wheel when going in at an angle to prevent scraping the bottom. I forgot to activate the front lift on mine one day pulling into a bank -- came in at an angle and the lip in the entrance way was like 1/2" and scraped by wheel. Would have been avoided if I used my front lift and just pulled in straight.

2LT is also a must for me for the HUD and speaker system. I had mag ride in mine also, but don't think that's anywhere near as important to me as 2LT and front lift.

As far as protecting the engine from water splash --- this is an absolute insane thing to worry about. Everything is water proof in the engine. All the connectors, wiring, etc. You can pressure wash the engine if you wanted to and the water won't hurt a thing (the pressure might if it's a really high pressure machine, but the water itself doesn't hurt the engine). I laugh every time I see someone put those stupid ugly plastic vent sealers on their coupes when washing their cars. It's their money so more power to them... but completely wasted.
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Originally Posted by Kracka
It's more crap to leak and break; even the engineers admitted it was cobbled together with brake parts.
Out of curiosity... when/where did they admit to this?

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Originally Posted by mikeflores2000
Does the C8 Front Lift reduce scrapes?
Or is it marketing hype to charge more?
If you need it, then yes it's absolutely worth it. Front lift for me will save having to spend probably $15K-$20K to reslope and repour my driveway, so absolutely worth it. Beyond that, since getting the car a week ago and starting my drive home from the museum, I've used it at probably 3-4 places where I would have definitely scraped otherwise. Now on the other hand, if I was still in my last house, I might have skipped on it as the driveway was a much gentler slope (which cleared my ZR1 splitter if I took it at an angle, had to take the splitter off for the current house), but even then I do like doing road trips and you never know when you're going to have a crappy entry into a gas station, restaurant, etc.
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Originally Posted by mikeflores2000
Does the C8 Front Lift reduce scrapes?
Or is it marketing hype to charge more?
For the poll question - the minimum option for me was HTC. Mine is an 3LT HTC with the options you list - but the priority for me was HTC.
As for does the front lift reduce scrapes: What I can say is it allow me to drive over certain road features without scraping that I would otherwise need to avoid - and so it works in that sense. But that's just it - you need to see the obstacle, activate the lift, and then store the location if you expect to pass that way again. You still need to see the obstacle, and you can avoid it if you can see it. That being the case, for careful drivers, adding the front lift should not reduce scrapes, rather it should allow you to go over certain road features that you would otherwise need to avoid.
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Originally Posted by mikeflores2000
Does the C8 Front Lift reduce scrapes?
Or is it marketing hype to charge more?
Disclaimer: I do have front lift.

I am not lowered, and I have been pleasantly surprised by how many speed bumps and slopes that I have been able to clear without having to engage in front lift. My day-to-day driving does not include any locations in which I need to engage my front lift. Honestly, it is more of an insurance policy when I'm somewhere new and I'm not sure if I can clear a ramp up or down. Frankly, my biggest concerns are when I'm exiting a parking lost and there is a slope down back onto the road. I think those areas are the highest chance of scraping as your tire goes into the dip of the drainage curb before going back up to the roadway.

The funny thing is, if I was lowered, it would probably be more useful, but it's far harder to lower a car with front lift...
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It is harder to install front lowering collars than it is to lower the non-lift C8 by adjusting the spring perches, but I don't think I would have lowered mine if I didn't have the front lift. Among other places I need the lift (even before lowering the car) is my own driveway.
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…just my thoughts on why I don’t plan to get front lift…it’s a $2K+ option to keep you from damaging a $150 front OEM splitter…if you get a non Z51, it’s still more cost effective to just buy the splitter to protect the front of your car a bit more…

…that being said, if I had a driveway that was so steep, or speed bumps in my neighborhood that were so bad I couldn’t even get past them without front lift, then my opinion might change, but a little scrapping on the bottom of the front splitter that can’t be seen unless you’re under the car isn’t enough to make me want to add another $2K+ option…
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Yes, that's good reasoning - unless you do have a steep driveway and your splittes cost $1500
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Originally Posted by BandDirector
…just my thoughts on why I don’t plan to get front lift…it’s a $2K+ option to keep you from damaging a $150 front OEM splitter…if you get a non Z51, it’s still more cost effective to just buy the splitter to protect the front of your car a bit more…
$150? A nose/road strike can take out more than the front splitter. For my C6, I've had two nose/road collisions and to repair the car, I've spent several thousands on repairs. For the C6, the metal nose skid plates are attached to the radiator frame! The radiator frame is constructed of relatively low weight aluminum tubing. A hard road impact will crack the radiator frame. And, in my case, the AC condenser was cracked also. That was a big repair bill. Also, in both road strikes, the splitter was destroyed. Yes replacing this is not that expensive, but repairing the nose facia and....parts of the body the fascia is attached to is were a big expense comes if the raod strike is not bad enough to destroy the radiator frame. lI have no clue what a road strike will do in a C8. I assume the car has skid plates and if so, I'd wonder what they're attached to. Aside from the skid plate issue, after a road strike takes out the splitter, as with a C6, the front nose fascia must be next to go, and repairing/replacing that is expensive also. I'm going to order the nose lift.
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Originally Posted by 68/70Vette
$150? A nose/road strike can take out more than the front splitter……./I'm going to order the nose lift.
You realize that you can’t just drive around with the nose lifted, right?

I made the same wager as some others without it. My car is lowered and only scrapes very mildly sometimes on driveways. Wasn’t worth it to me to spend thousands to prevent scraping a cheap, easily replaceable part that isn’t visible. I might have for for it if I had a different driveway situation or a lot of scrape obstacles where I drive the car, but I don’t. And if I end up with a Z with Z07 at some point I may reconsider as well.

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Originally Posted by RichieRich
You realize that you can’t just drive around with the nose lifted, right?

Wasn’t worth it to me to spend thousands to prevent scraping a cheap, easily replaceable part that isn’t visible. I might have for for it if I had a different driveway situation or a lot of scrape obstacles where I drive the car, but I don’t. And if I end up with a Z with Z07 at some point I may reconsider as well.
The front bumper fascia is not cheap to repair/paint or replace/paint. As I posted, my two nose/road collisions have cost into the thousands*, much more than the $2500 of the nose lift mechanism. Yes, I now know you can't drive around with the nose elevated. But the car does have a memory for 1000 locations. Places where you know you have to slow down for. road dips can apparently be entered in memory, and when you slow down the nose automatically rises.

My particular situation: Because it rarely rains here, curbside sewer rain drains aren't that frequent. At city street intersections, for water runoff gully-like depressions run across intersection roadways. Some are deep. It's common to see Corvettes, Porsches, etc make weaving motions to avoid nose scrapes. If you've a green light, it's common to run over these things too fast. I've paid twice now for not noticing a deep gully like depression.
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* As I posted before, on a C6 the nose skid plates are a part of the radiator frame. Banging the skid plates on the road can fracture the radiator frame, and for me fracture the condenser also. .
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My car has 450 miles. Front lift has 4 saved locations and two that I will save next time. It boils down to this, the front splitter warrants the need for the lift, if I didn’t have the z51 splitter I wouldn’t need it.

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I voted LT2 because the LT6 is so much more expensive and longer to get...
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