Other Maintenance Coming up
#1
Other Maintenance Coming up
Just noticed that engine coolant and brake fluids have 5 year change cycle.
So in addition to DCT fluid every 3 years, a C8 has nearly $2/day maintenance cost in first six years.
So in addition to DCT fluid every 3 years, a C8 has nearly $2/day maintenance cost in first six years.
#2
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And I wonder what the 7 year AC desiccant change is going to cost.
It is a lot less if you do your own maintenance. The DCT filter change and the desiccant change are the only ones I can't do myself because I don't have the tools. And I'm hoping a reasonably priced bidirectional scan tool comes out that can actually do the DCT hydraulic system flush.
It is a lot less if you do your own maintenance. The DCT filter change and the desiccant change are the only ones I can't do myself because I don't have the tools. And I'm hoping a reasonably priced bidirectional scan tool comes out that can actually do the DCT hydraulic system flush.
#3
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The only out of the ordinary service requirements for the C8 are the DCT fluid & filter changes, otherwise its inline with just about any other vehicle on the road today, especially other GM vehicles.
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Proper maintenance does cost a bit unless you do it yourself.
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And I wonder what the 7 year AC desiccant change is going to cost.
It is a lot less if you do your own maintenance. The DCT filter change and the desiccant change are the only ones I can't do myself because I don't have the tools. And I'm hoping a reasonably priced bidirectional scan tool comes out that can actually do the DCT hydraulic system flush.
It is a lot less if you do your own maintenance. The DCT filter change and the desiccant change are the only ones I can't do myself because I don't have the tools. And I'm hoping a reasonably priced bidirectional scan tool comes out that can actually do the DCT hydraulic system flush.
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You can slide on the brake fluid and coolant, but there’s reasons not to. Any car benefits from this, but typically vehicles where there’s interest in having the life span be extremely long in years, like a sports car or high end vehicle, get more recommended maintenance.
Brake fluid is hygroscopic and basically absorbs moisture and lowers its own boiling point that can lead to sudden loss of braking when boiled, and before that a sponge pedal as water is compressible unlike the brake fluid. Basically changing it removes garbage in the fluid from decomp of hoses, **** that made it past seals and the water, resetting to factory performance and lengthening the life of anything in the system it touches.
Coolant similarly is more than meets the eye, theres anti corrosion chemicals in there that helps parts last longer. You change it on a regular basis and you will run cooler, have fewer leaks and fewer repairs; that said, it’s not an infinite life hack for hoses, seals and gaskets. They have a service interval as well, but preventative maintaining the system will likely extend the life of the bits the coolant touches.
Anyone who thinks preventative maintenance is expensive gets sticker shock on reactive maintenance aka repairs. I’ve also never been able to tear an engine or system in a car and tell what fancy brand a fluid was (make sure it’s the correct type of fluid), but I’ve definitely noticed when they deferred changes.
Brake fluid is hygroscopic and basically absorbs moisture and lowers its own boiling point that can lead to sudden loss of braking when boiled, and before that a sponge pedal as water is compressible unlike the brake fluid. Basically changing it removes garbage in the fluid from decomp of hoses, **** that made it past seals and the water, resetting to factory performance and lengthening the life of anything in the system it touches.
Coolant similarly is more than meets the eye, theres anti corrosion chemicals in there that helps parts last longer. You change it on a regular basis and you will run cooler, have fewer leaks and fewer repairs; that said, it’s not an infinite life hack for hoses, seals and gaskets. They have a service interval as well, but preventative maintaining the system will likely extend the life of the bits the coolant touches.
Anyone who thinks preventative maintenance is expensive gets sticker shock on reactive maintenance aka repairs. I’ve also never been able to tear an engine or system in a car and tell what fancy brand a fluid was (make sure it’s the correct type of fluid), but I’ve definitely noticed when they deferred changes.
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Agree on everything above except water in and of itself is not compressible. If it turns to steam or vapor due to heat at the caliper or wheel cylinder it'll cause a soft pedal and in the C8 trip the fade warning.
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AzDave47 (04-03-2024)
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consequence of neglect
Here a little more on my experience with neglecting the brake fluid. I thought my brakes were fine. No sponge. Everything was fine till I noticed it would pull to one side (meaning the other side was not braking) when first braking after sitting overnight or longer. Then it would seem to be fine, but I decided to investigate. My theory about all this is that the brake fluid did collect water. The water caused rust/corrosion. The rust/dirt clogged the brake lines and also corroded the wheel cylinder. I replaced all the cylinders and all of the rubber brake lines (which also were collapsing internally due age if nothing else. External inspection did not show any of this going on.
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Here a little more on my experience with neglecting the brake fluid. I thought my brakes were fine. No sponge. Everything was fine till I noticed it would pull to one side (meaning the other side was not braking) when first braking after sitting overnight or longer. Then it would seem to be fine, but I decided to investigate. My theory about all this is that the brake fluid did collect water. The water caused rust/corrosion. The rust/dirt clogged the brake lines and also corroded the wheel cylinder. I replaced all the cylinders and all of the rubber brake lines (which also were collapsing internally due age if nothing else. External inspection did not show any of this going on.
Older vehicles had vents in the brake and clutch master cylinders where moisture could enter. I believe most newer vehicles have diaphragms in the brake master cylinder reservoir to keep them hermetically sealed. I know GM has been using brake master cylinders with diaphragms for decades. But some moisture can still enter through the seals.
I use a brake fluid moisture meter so I don't change my fluid as often as some manuals require and some cars don't have a scheduled brake fluid change. I also live in a relatively low humidity environment. But I plan on changing my C8's fluid at least once since I purchased an extended warranty.
I normally use a vacuum bleeder (less mess) but they aren't allowed for the C8 and I don't have a pressure bleeder. From the posts I've seen you can bleed the C8 brakes the old fashioned two person way and gravity bleeding also works. Or I'll buy a pressure bleeder if I need to.
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