rckt

When I startup and hit the steering wheel button it asks for a data plan but if I hit the mic button on screen, google assistant works like a charm. I have an Android phone and use Google assistant. With it or without it, big brother is collecting data. I will NEVER buy any other GM product because I despise of OnStar. I just love the Corvette too much to let the Google infotainment system discourage me.

sowega

I took a look at the 2024 system over the weekend - it's noticeably different from my 22, but it defaults to Carplay the same way. I can't imagine it would be the sort of thing that keeps me out of the car.

24RiptideBlue

I’m actually pondering dumping the car before I get past break in… all this crap distracts so much from what I thought the experience of owning this car would be…. It’s much worse right now because we are just coming out of winter here so there hasn’t been any great driving experiences to offset the noise and news about gm, LexisNexis and their horrendous “practices”.

There is a very attractive and attractively priced vintage mid engine Ferrari for sale very close to me that I’m seriously considering going to test drive. Recently serviced and only 14k miles…. And although I’ve owned a few 911’s they were water cooled and an air cooled 911 is definitely on my list.

Also completely disagree on the factory Nav… regardless of how much I use it factory on board Nav is a great thing to have in a stand alone vehicle….

Anything that requires a “connection” to something outside of my car is not something I’m interested in and the opposite of what cars mean to me…

The car manufacturers want to create their own infotainment systems for two reasons.
1) prepare you for forced conversion to EVs… because EVs current technology is so inferior to internal combustion the car manufacturers don’t want you planning your own routes/trips because the range is never what they say and people are significantly inconvenienced when they have to go far of their desired route to find a working charger. By combining the Nav with the onboard systems that are constantly evaluating the battery and your driving… the car tells you when to start looking for a charger and how to get there.

2) They think they can turn your car into a constant revenue stream which they believe they need because EVs are much more expensive to produce than internal combustion and as China owns the supply chain cost will only increase. EV prices long term are not going down…. Putting private car ownership out of reach for many unless the car makers have these other revenue streams.

3) Conspiracy Theorists will claim there are other reasons… like the ability to instantly disable your constantly connected vehicle…. Especially easy with EV systems…

Regardless where you fall on the desire for privacy scale… no one will convince me having my car be constantly connected, tracked, evaluated, my driving evaluated, my car be changed or modified while parked or while driving…. is a good idea… it’s horrendous and the opposite of what cars have always represented as part of the American story…

24RiptideBlue

Maybe if you left out the “tinfoil hat” comment it would have gone better 🤔…

My concerns are more about the principles of being a private citizen…. vs the actual steps of opening a Google account…

Best of luck to you and your cat….

gatorfl

For the money GM partnered with a CO that helped the CCP monitor 100s of millions of its people (who knows how many are now jailed, missing kidneys, or worse. Also, they just lost a massive court case where they got caught tracking people even in Incognito mode. Strangely, the courts are making them delete all that data, but no million/ billion dollar fines. Also, don't forget the millions of added kids information added from the schools incorporating google classroom. Many are still using it now as a premiant feature. So to think there is collusion between the Gov and Companies for devious reasons is silly thinking. Just accept and move on.

Slare

I'm a realist about most of this data tracking stuff, if you have a phone in your pocket you are already being tracked. The bigger issue is with this being expanded out to how the car is being driven, and all of this that just recently flushed out about use tracking (which is on by default, onstar safe driver) and that data being sold to Lexis which then in turn sells the data to insurance companies to drive our rates up, and you better believe it will eventually come down to single user resolution if things keep going down this path.

It was a big enough mess that GM came out and made an announcement that they are stopping it. You know how big of a deal it is for a corporation like GM to change policy on something like that with a public announcement? This is not tin foil hat territory, it's a real problem, and the more companies like Onstar get away with it, the worse it will get.

I agree you can't really avoid it today and live a normal life. But where I have a choice, I am making it. Onstar is a garbage company with garbage business practices. They are part of GM who are also currently making garbage decisions about user privacy and data. GM got me on the car, Onstar will never see a dime from me and I will tell everyone that cares to do the same. GM won't get another dime from me until the entire situation is more clear. We still have other options though they are all getting worse as well.

Funnier thing is GM just scapegoated someone as the guy that supposedly pushed them to make the call to remove AA/Carplay. It's just another thing that shows they are feeling the negative feedback and maybe, just maybe, pulling a couple fingers out of our cookie jars. The tin foil hat folks are the ones that started it. Sometimes they are the good guys.

Far as the actual original question, after you go through the work to get everything setup, the main problems with 2024 system is you don't have native functioning navigation without paying onstar, and AA/Carplay interfaces have ~20% of the already small screen taken up by the new software shortcuts. Many don't care about losing the native navigation as they always use AA/CP. Losing the screen space sucks, even if it doesn't bother you, it still sucks. I think we'll eventually see a screen size upgrade that will make it less painful, but for now, it sucks. They've already announced 2025 will include 8 years of the onstar needed for nav functionality, but nobody knows how that will actually pan out in terms / price of the car.

Korbek

The nav stuff doesnt bother me. I've never once used onboard nav. And I dont need to "see" the route. I just connect via bluetooth and turn by turn nav audio directions play over the car speakers. Have never seen the need to visually look at the nav screen while driving.

I'm just irritated by the intractable google insertion into the car's OS and the Onstar/Lexisnexis crap, which is why I plan on unplugging the cellular antenna IF I buy another C8.

I'm currently trying a GR86 on for size. VERY different car with no real power, but quite fun at low speeds in the twisties since it is so easy to carry momentum in 2nd/3rd gear in such a small/light car. And its cheap enough (33k) that I wont mind taking a hit if I swap it for a C8 in a year or two. If I like the 86 well enough and my left knee doesnt get too mad at me using a clutch again after years away from them, I may just go the Supra route rather than another C8.

jcthorne

I can confirm that unplugging the antenna does not disable the data connection fully. When you get near enough to an ATT tower, it still connects and sends all pending data.

jcthorne

When I first got my Z06 in December, I actually tried to create the account and link to my google account to use the built in system. Its not compatible with Google for workgroups accounts so became useless pretty quickly. I stopped trying and connected Android Auto from my phone and have been using that since. It connects and starts up wirelessly every time I drive. No complaints other than the built in system was useless for me.

RKCRLR

An open cable will still somewhat act as an antenna. I wonder if you disconnected the cable from the module underneath the dash if it would prevent it from connecting.

Korbek

Sounds like I'll just need to unplug both sides then. I dont need gps antenna bc I dont option front end lift. Just wish I knew if unplugging both sides causes problems with any essential systems (other than front end lift).

StfDrmsRMadeOf

Wow there are a lot off bat sh*t crazy takes in this tread

Korbek

Thank you for your valuable input on the topic.

StfDrmsRMadeOf

It is at least as valuable as the majority of the other responses

Korbek

Not even close, but I wont be feeding the troll further. Have a nice day hating on others.

StfDrmsRMadeOf

I’m not a troll but you’re clearly a sanctimonious a**hole. You have people literally spouting half backed conspiracy theories and inaccurate information here plus driving a user who actually was trying to positively contribute to leave the forum so pardon me for trying to inject some humor. F*ck off!

LIE2ME

Hmmm, I sense the value of my 2022 Red Mist HTC with 8 year, 80,000 mile warranty starting to climb.....

LIE2ME

I thought the 2024 does not interface with Android Auto?

RKCRLR

You must have read that on the internet...
2024s support Android Auto and CarPlay however the screen display is slightly smaller than previous years due to menu buttons.

roy826

Its a money grab I called and asked how much to get my Nav back she told me $44.99 a month plus taxes. I said no thank you and said goodbye. I hate the 2024 pay to have stuff. Two years left on my truck everything which GMC graciously provided free for 3 years and Chevy gave me 30 days. I won't pay for it in the GMC when it expires either. So I guess I need to get better at using my phone for navigation. I use Waze but never found it to be that great a navigator. I use it for the police and debris in the roadway ahead.