JABCAT

I wouldn't hold your breath. It's been horrible for the nearly 30 years I've owned GM products. It's no different at Ford or CJDR dealers. I've owned plenty of those vehicles as well and unless I had a personal relationship with the dealership (e.g., the owner was a client of mine), their service is just as bad.

They have no problem matching or surpassing the prices of the "luxury" brands, but their dealerships & service is nowhere close.

Bluehinder

I currently own three cars on your list, GT4, Z06, BMW M4 X-drive Comp Convert, and owned all of them at one time or another except the Italian. While I daily drive a MB 580, the M4 gets the most miles. Very easy car to live with, lots of fun, handles bad weather well, and nice to put the top down. Big back seat area, makes nice sounds. I can't imagine you wouldn't enjoy it for a dd.

I have no idea regarding depreciation, that's something I never consider when buying, as I have no control, and it happens to all cars. I will say though, I traded a C8 for the M4 and got back my purchase price minus a few thousand. GT4 and Z06 obviously hold their value well. M4 will probably the worst, but that doesn't matter, it's super fun for three seasons, it's also under the radar.

stt816

Thanks everyone..to answer some questions. I live in southwestern Connecticut. Although we get snow it’s cleaned up almost immediately. And the last couple years haven’t been much. I don’t have a wife or kids. 🙏

i Did go to Porsche and drove a Macan. It started downpouring so they didn’t allow me to test drive the 718 or 911. I did sit in them though and the 718 felt much more like my c5. Which I didn’t like. Yea it was a lot more modern but it was still a little less nice interior and 2 seated. The Macan was hard to see how it drove because it was raining but the interior of that and the 911 were very nice

options
keep the Giulia, don’t extend warranty. I’ll roll the dice and play my luck here. I just don’t feel like feeling locked in.

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Current car list

• M2 Competition-haven’t driven but looks wise..it looks just a bit small. Not talking about practicality..just looks smushed to me and not crazy about its looks. Although if I drove it maybe that would overshadow that
• porsche Macan GTS/Turbo-ive never owned an suv and this might seem like a weird one on this list but reviews say it drives much more like a car. Exterior I’m not crazy about but interior was very nice. This was in place of panamera. I like the looks of Macan better.
• Giulia Quadrifoglio (this doesnt depreciate bad. Much better than the ti sport I have)-I’ve heard great reviews on this. Saying it’s the best in its category. But do I wanna put in 20k or so for the same model car? I know it’s a different animal but still.
• 718 Cayman S-didn’t test drive but led me to believe it would be comparable to the c5 too much. Even though it’s different. I actually feel like the c8 might be more or equal of a contrast to the c5
• C8 Corvette-I probably like the looks of this the best. One of my last memories of my dad before he passed away was us building a c8 online. We had a strong bond with this c5 which is why it’s so important to me. I'm not sure if he was going through with the c8 or what, but there’s always that in my head. But I’m just not sure how practical it would be or if it would ruin the c5 experience
• Porsche 911 Carrera S (991.2)-probably one of my top picks because it seems to have everything..luxury, comfort, practicality, and so on but expensive..but also holds value and has a history of it so there’s that
• Any Modern M2/M3/M4/M5–like some have said I’m just kind of tired of bmw..you see m on everything and their owners don’t like to use signals. Idk
• i was looking at the taycan and I like how it looks but not sure if I’m ready to go electric

mnm4ever

To be fair, you haven’t had any issues on your BMWs because they are essentially brand new. When you own one that’s out of warranty and has some miles on it then let’s see how you feel!

But I said earlier in the thread, most every car made these days is pretty reliable. Some have a little more maintenance requirements than others but all of them are pretty good. Until they get way up in miles or years. Most ppl don’t keep a car that long so it doesn’t really matter.

mnm4ever

Agreed on the Chevy dealer experience. It sucks. But it sucks at nearly every brand. BMW, Porsche, Land Rover, probably Mercedes are more likely to be better. But not all of them. The thing I realize is I don’t really go to a dealership very much. These cars don’t require much service, once a year. I drop the car off, they call me when it’s done. If you are lucky you find a Chevy dealer who also owns import brands or luxury brands. The service there tends to be better, but those cross brand dealers are much less common with GM.

acroy

I've had C5s for 12yrs now and spent much time in Cayman though never bought one. they are very different driving machines, Every time I see a Cayman I kick myself 'why don't I have one of those?' they are sweet. Extremely nimble and light on their feet. Feels a foot narrower and 3ft shorter than a C5. And the hold up well and hold their value well. Cruise to a local Carmax or something and drive one.
Barring that, you like the looks of the C8 and have great memories with Dad, so grab one of those (or at least test drive). They drive like a modern large heavy midengined sports car, which it is, very different from a C5, would not ruin it, they are both 'good' but complimentary. C5 is better 'drivers' car, C8 better all rounder.

switchlanez

Check out VetOnVettes757's YouTube channel. He offers some perspective on owning both a C5 Z06 and a C8.

BasicMember

I don't believe anyone has mentioned the Integra Type S with a six speed manual that you can wind out and have some serious fun. They are harder to find than a C8 but well worth checking into, imo. Less expensive all around and if you can get one without an ADM a relative bargain. Don't tell anyone.

mtraylor2001

Out of your list. If depreciation is your main criteria and you want a sports car. There is only one on the list that stands alone. its the Porsch carrera S. I believe that 911's hold their value better than any other sports car. Especially the Turbos. I 2 year old Carrera S can sell more than a new one. Crazy market as others have said.

Now comparing the C8 side by side with the Carrera S. I believe the C8 is a sexy car hands down. It has sharp lines, C8 rumble, and looks good from about all angles. The Carrera S is more refined I think. It has real smooth lines, a little submissive from the v6 until you get on it or put in sport mode, etc....but the Porsche is more nimble and will handle better than the c8. They both have good torque and will be fun to drive.

Now as others have said. I think the Macan GTS will make an excellent daily. It has power and will handle just like a sports car. Its the best of both worlds and you can keep your C5. Anyway. That is my 2 cents. Hard decission for you. I have actually contemplated on getting a Carrera S to replace my C7z to try it out and hold until I can get my hands on a c8z. The thoughts were around depreciation as well. I could have gotten a 7speed stick 2 years ago and when the time comes. Trade for a C8z. I think I'm kicking myself now, as the price of those things just gone up and up. It will be interesting to see the hybrid of that model as it will have more power and torque.

JABCAT

I also mentioned, " My in-laws have had countless BMWs also problem-free, and all my wife's colleagues drive BMWs. It appears BMW is the unofficial company car." I thoroughly research vehicles before I drop $70-90k on them.

I also ensure all regular maintenance is done on schedule. I've owned 10 different Jeep Wranglers, and put a lot of miles on them. If you read Wrangler forums you would assume they all have issues. I was either fortunate or because I maintain my vehicles, I didn't experience any issues with any of them.

That said, after the warranty expires or after the included maintenance is over, I perform all my own maintenance. Maintenance on the BMWs isn't any more difficult or expensive than my Z06. I'd venture a guess the typical BMW demographic doesn't do their own maintenance and thus think it's expensive.

mnm4ever

Understood and agreed. It just kind of made me laugh when you said you had a 22 BMW and now a 23 BMW and they haven’t had any problems. Well I should hope so!!

I’m not trying to knock BMW or German cars. I’ve owned many and so has many of my family and friends. They are well engineered and built cars that are solid. But… when they get older and higher in mileage, stupid things break and a lot of those stupid things cost a lot of money. They aren’t Hondas or Toyotas. And maintenance is expensive, more expensive than the Corvette. Unless GM is charging some insane premium for an oil change or transmission service on the Z06. Yea, I know BMW includes the maintenance for 3 yrs. But if you read the service recommendations, they don’t really have anything besides an oil change or two. And after that 3 yrs, you are on the hook for the actual expensive stuff. German cars are really meant to be leased for 3 yrs then traded in. If you want to keep one for 10+ yrs or buy them used, then you should be handy with cars and be able to do your own work.

JerriVette

The corvettes make great daily drivers. I’ve daily driving them for decades. Inexpensive to maintain although the dct service does add cost

JerriVette

Put non runflats on the c5 and use that as your daily driver. Put an $20 air compressor and $5 tire plug kit in the trunk and just use that.the ride will dramatically improve. Maybe 18/19 wheels and tires?

sVe your money and wait as the car market is about to implode with prices of most sports cars dropping like crazy.

jmo

JABCAT

My wife ordered a '23 Grand Cherokee Summit High Altitude last year. We had it 9 months, and had constant issues with the electronics. The $2k High Altitude pkg was supposed to include gloss black wheels, exterior trim, roof rails & emblems. It came with dark grey wheels, bright silver roof rails, and dark grey emblems. Fought 4 months with Jeep over that and because the build sheet stated the vehicle had gloss black components they refused to give us the correct components.

The steering wheel trim was coming off & the leather had so many wrinkles in it. Took 5 months to get a new steering wheel which looked just as bad as the first. The response to all the electronics issues was "maybe they'll come out with a software update in the future to fix those things". Thankfully we ordered at 4% below invoice, so we didn't lose much when we traded it in.

Re: included maintenance on the Ms, it includes break-in service (oil change and rear diff fluid change), regular oil changes, brake service and fluid change, spark plugs, engine air filter and cabin filter, & wiper blades. Not too bad. The included maintenance does include less on non-M vehicles.

My wife's X3MC is in for her 25k mi service (oil, air filter, brakes). She received a brand new X3 (119 mi) for her loaner. I also asked them to check out the ambient light strips in the doors that had a couple hot spots & the exterior lower door trim looked loose. Tech sent me a video going over the vehicle, explaining what was going to be done & also that they are replacing the ambient light components in all 4 doors plus addressing the lower door trim.

I've never had service like that for any of my GM, CJDR, or other vehicles. 9.9/10 they try to get out of warranty work or say "cannot replicate concern"....

I do agree, one should be able to perform your own maintenance, regardless of the make of vehicle. Just read here the cost some dealers are charging for oil changes on the C8, and then you have the expensive DCT service.

mnm4ever

I probably should have said “most vehicles these days are reliable, except for FCA vehicles”. 😊

Our Wrangler has been pretty solid. My daughter’s Grand Cherokee has not. In 7 yrs the Wrangler has only been to the dealer for regular maintenance and it’s cheap. I think while it was in for service they found something else that needed replaced and they fixed it under warranty. Pretty much the same experience with all my other cars. Maybe I’m just lucky but I just don’t go to the dealerships enough to care much about their service.