Gm fix transmission issue
#21
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Exactly, as stated above, the DCT transmission issues are totally blown out of proportion on U-tube and internet forums as most everyone comes on social media platforms to complain about their issues however you don't hear from the hundreds of thousands of C8 owners who have not experienced any issues.
Same happened with the C7 A8 trans 'shudder' issues, all said and done reports state that less than 5% of C7 A8s experience this issue.
Same happened with the C7 A8 trans 'shudder' issues, all said and done reports state that less than 5% of C7 A8s experience this issue.
You say huge, how many of the approx. 146,000 C8s built to date do you believe have had DCT issues?
#22
Every enthusiast sort of car I have ever bought new had a matching forum for it that I would read from time to time. All of these forums made the cars sound like an absolute basket case. Just nothing but problems on top of problems. Seemingly lots of people who were loud and proud that they lemon law'd their POS and it was the worst car ever.
Funny enough, I never had a problem with any of these cars. So I'm really not worried about it with my C8 Z06. Someday my luck will probably run out and I'll buy a problem car, but worrying about it isn't going to change whatever may happen.
When it comes down to it, no one outside of GM has a clue how widespread any of these issues truly are. People tend to assume its whatever they have decided they want the answer to be (some people are just naturally positive, while others are just naturally negative). None of us have a clue what the true percentage is.
Funny enough, I never had a problem with any of these cars. So I'm really not worried about it with my C8 Z06. Someday my luck will probably run out and I'll buy a problem car, but worrying about it isn't going to change whatever may happen.
When it comes down to it, no one outside of GM has a clue how widespread any of these issues truly are. People tend to assume its whatever they have decided they want the answer to be (some people are just naturally positive, while others are just naturally negative). None of us have a clue what the true percentage is.
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If you frequent the forum and other social media sources, I can see where the transmission reliability would be a concern. But there are a huge amount of owners that have no problems and do not post that for others to read.
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In Porsche PDK’s early years they did the same thing - brought every faulty PDK back to the factory for inspection. They’ve certainly had their fair share of high exposure problems:
catastrophic IMS failures that could happen in 996 and 997.1 versions of the 911
complete engine failures in certain era GT3 911 models that called for voluntary complete engine replacement
an ongoing - 1.5+ years now - stop drive order on the $1m + Carrera
and more
Yet they still sell more than they can supply of most every model and I don’t think anyone is worried about the PDK anymore
The Tremec TR-9080 faults too will be overcome, but keep talking them up folks, makes the day come sooner I can justify the outlay for a used C8
Whatever happened to the early C8 idea that Corvette should become its own brand thereby able to offer a level of service justifying the price of the car anyway?
catastrophic IMS failures that could happen in 996 and 997.1 versions of the 911
complete engine failures in certain era GT3 911 models that called for voluntary complete engine replacement
an ongoing - 1.5+ years now - stop drive order on the $1m + Carrera
and more
Yet they still sell more than they can supply of most every model and I don’t think anyone is worried about the PDK anymore
The Tremec TR-9080 faults too will be overcome, but keep talking them up folks, makes the day come sooner I can justify the outlay for a used C8
Whatever happened to the early C8 idea that Corvette should become its own brand thereby able to offer a level of service justifying the price of the car anyway?
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Its just a bit odd that GM does not document the problem but just sends another transmission and say "try this one". sure other cars have problems but my experience with Mercedes and Honda was when a problem was detected, it was analyzed and a solution was provided. MB had an oil consumption problem and identified which serial numbers of the same model, same year were affected and determined it was a cylinder component change. (My SLK had no problem but a friends did).
On the other hand, my C8 was in Chevrolet Service for a while awaiting a new transmission, but or some reason it did not bother me at all. I was offered a coutesy car but have other cars so waited a few weeks. Maybe the difference is: in Canada our summer toys go inti storage for 4-6 moths every years so we are not put off by a wait.
On the other hand, my C8 was in Chevrolet Service for a while awaiting a new transmission, but or some reason it did not bother me at all. I was offered a coutesy car but have other cars so waited a few weeks. Maybe the difference is: in Canada our summer toys go inti storage for 4-6 moths every years so we are not put off by a wait.
#29
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Marketing Guy 1: This part keeps failing, and we're losing customer confidence in the design
Marketing Guy 2: We need a way to improve that confidence without spending a lot of money
MG1: The part really is broken, so what do you suggest?
MG2: If we give it a new part number, people will believe we've identified and resolved the problem.
MG1: But new numbers are only assigned to parts that have been modified.
MG2: Add a bit of white to the paint.
MG1: Ah, so you mean it's dark gray now instead of completely black. Done!
And that, folks, is how you end up with a modified valve body with a new part number
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sowega (03-27-2024)
#30
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The conspiracy theorist in me...
Marketing Guy 1: This part keeps failing, and we're losing customer confidence in the design
Marketing Guy 2: We need a way to improve that confidence without spending a lot of money
MG1: The part really is broken, so what do you suggest?
MG2: If we give it a new part number, people will believe we've identified and resolved the problem.
MG1: But new numbers are only assigned to parts that have been modified.
MG2: Add a bit of white to the paint.
MG1: Ah, so you mean it's dark gray now instead of completely black. Done!
And that, folks, is how you end up with a modified valve body with a new part number
Marketing Guy 1: This part keeps failing, and we're losing customer confidence in the design
Marketing Guy 2: We need a way to improve that confidence without spending a lot of money
MG1: The part really is broken, so what do you suggest?
MG2: If we give it a new part number, people will believe we've identified and resolved the problem.
MG1: But new numbers are only assigned to parts that have been modified.
MG2: Add a bit of white to the paint.
MG1: Ah, so you mean it's dark gray now instead of completely black. Done!
And that, folks, is how you end up with a modified valve body with a new part number
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BarneyZ (03-27-2024)
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The conspiracy theorist in me...
Marketing Guy 1: This part keeps failing, and we're losing customer confidence in the design
Marketing Guy 2: We need a way to improve that confidence without spending a lot of money
MG1: The part really is broken, so what do you suggest?
MG2: If we give it a new part number, people will believe we've identified and resolved the problem.
MG1: But new numbers are only assigned to parts that have been modified.
MG2: Add a bit of white to the paint.
MG1: Ah, so you mean it's dark gray now instead of completely black. Done!
And that, folks, is how you end up with a modified valve body with a new part number
Marketing Guy 1: This part keeps failing, and we're losing customer confidence in the design
Marketing Guy 2: We need a way to improve that confidence without spending a lot of money
MG1: The part really is broken, so what do you suggest?
MG2: If we give it a new part number, people will believe we've identified and resolved the problem.
MG1: But new numbers are only assigned to parts that have been modified.
MG2: Add a bit of white to the paint.
MG1: Ah, so you mean it's dark gray now instead of completely black. Done!
And that, folks, is how you end up with a modified valve body with a new part number
I HIGHLY doubt this will occur in today's timeframe. Remember, GM just got caught doing this with the ignition switch issue. Which resulted in many lawsuits, millions in damage awards, and I believe, several GM executives were found guilty of criminal charges. I believe that this thread has gone off track in a major way with these conspiracy theories...JMHO
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new 24059060
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Andybump (03-27-2024)
#35
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I HIGHLY doubt this will occur in today's timeframe. Remember, GM just got caught doing this with the ignition switch issue. Which resulted in many lawsuits, millions in damage awards, and I believe, several GM executives were found guilty of criminal charges. I believe that this thread has gone off track in a major way with these conspiracy theories...JMHO
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sowega (03-27-2024)
#37
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Exactly, as stated above, the DCT transmission issues are totally blown out of proportion on U-tube and internet forums as most everyone comes on social media platforms to complain about their issues however you don't hear from the hundreds of thousands of C8 owners who have not experienced any issues.
Same happened with the C7 A8 trans 'shudder' issues, all said and done reports state that less than 5% of C7 A8s experience this issue.
Same happened with the C7 A8 trans 'shudder' issues, all said and done reports state that less than 5% of C7 A8s experience this issue.
So if your 5% failure number is correct my brother's odds are 0.00000625 at having his issues (1 in 160,000). I think it's reasonable to say that 5% is low, and also it's overblown online... but the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
#38
I think 5% is high - 5 of every 100 or 1 out of every 20 cars built. It that applied to the C8 DCT your odds would be 1 out of 20. But it did not. That number above was mentioned in the context of C7 - not the C8.
"all said and done reports state that less than 5% of C7 A8s experience this issue."
"all said and done reports state that less than 5% of C7 A8s experience this issue."
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