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Old 01-16-2024, 03:00 PM
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Default Dealer can't do HTC oil change in cold weather

Took my HTC in for its scheduled annual oil change today. Of course, the weather in DFW is on the cold side for a few days. Dealer just called and said they can't get the HTC top to operate in the cold temperature. Going to leave it under the shop heater and see if they can get it to operate this afternoon or tomorrow. Oh well, fun and games.
Old 01-16-2024, 03:05 PM
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Jeeez how cold is their shop?

You would think pull it the bay let it warm a bit and open?
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I know the top won't go down under 32 degrees but the tonneau cover should still operate in service mode for emergency's.


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I guess they'll need to figure it out. If they can't access the engine then they have a warranty claim to deal with. Once they have that solved they can then change your oil.
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The owners manual says this:

At cooler outside temperatures, the
convertible top may not operate. It is
possible to open the top down to
temperatures of about 0 °C (32 °F) and
close the top down to temperatures of
about −10 °C (14 °F). A DIC message will
display if the top will not operate due to
low temperature. If necessary, move the
vehicle to a heated indoor area to operate
the top.
I'm going to assume it's not below freezing inside their shop, so all the probably need to do is let the car sit inside for an hour or two until it (the car) warms up some. There are lots of Corvettes in cold weather climates, and it's ludicrous to think none of them can get an oil change in the winter.
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Old 01-16-2024, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kenrobb
Took my HTC in for its scheduled annual oil change today. Of course, the weather in DFW is on the cold side for a few days. Dealer just called and said they can't get the HTC top to operate in the cold temperature. Going to leave it under the shop heater and see if they can get it to operate this afternoon or tomorrow. Oh well, fun and games.
I’m in NJ and have no issue operating it in sub 20 degree weather. If they’re being truthful then that’s a warranty claim on the HTC module (or something related to it)
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Old 01-16-2024, 07:20 PM
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One would think the engine generates enough heat to get the mechanism to 32F. I know my trunk is toasty after an hour drive.
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Old 01-16-2024, 08:58 PM
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All the "fixes" would take time, time the shop doesn't want to deal with.
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I have difficulties getting it up in cold weather as well. My car, however, does not.
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Hopefully they were able to get the car to warm up, get the top to operate and then get your oil changed.
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I was in a parade last year and the temp was well below 32. My HTC would not operate. I got a warning it was too cold. Tried multiple times. Another person with our group had no problem raising and lowering his. Don’t think it had anything to do with the temperature around the engine or frunk. I suspect it takes the reading from the same sensor that tells you what the ambient temperature is outside wherever that is located. Sam.
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Shop temps depend on whether the shop is prepared for such low temps. Texas shops may not be.
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So anyone know WHY the top will not work at 32F and colder? What is preventing it from opening? I thought it was an electric motor.
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Originally Posted by Pettrix
So anyone know WHY the top will not work at 32F and colder? What is preventing it from opening? I thought it was an electric motor.
Programming. Protecting you from freezing yourself. I would hazard a guess that it could cause issues with raising it back in place if it is too cold.
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I would expect it could also be an issue if any loose ice got in to the mechanism. It doesn’t look that robust to me.
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Originally Posted by tsigwing
Programming. Protecting you from freezing yourself. I would hazard a guess that it could cause issues with raising it back in place if it is too cold.
I suspect it's more about protecting the mechanism that protecting the driver.
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Old 01-19-2024, 10:02 PM
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If water is frozen (ice, sleet, snow) between the panels or The rear deck & trunk or corner panels. It would effectively glue the hardtop in position. if you operated it, more than likely it'd start popping teeth off the gears or bending linkages. Pretty much destroying the hardtop system.

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Sorry to hear. This is yet another reason it'll take me awhile to "warm-up" and invest in a HTC Corvette.
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