Which C8 Options Best Hold Their Value at Resale?
#21
Drifting
What is worth more to a buyer a few years down the road? HTC will be worth more due to the high initial cost.
1LT is less desirable, but someone is always looking for a bargain. 2LT is the sweet spot that everyone wants. 3LT is a lot higher cost, probably harder to sell.
Mag Ride probably a very desirable option.
Buy the car you want and someone else will want it later.
1LT is less desirable, but someone is always looking for a bargain. 2LT is the sweet spot that everyone wants. 3LT is a lot higher cost, probably harder to sell.
Mag Ride probably a very desirable option.
Buy the car you want and someone else will want it later.
#22
What is worth more to a buyer a few years down the road? HTC will be worth more due to the high initial cost.
1LT is less desirable, but someone is always looking for a bargain. 2LT is the sweet spot that everyone wants. 3LT is a lot higher cost, probably harder to sell.
Mag Ride probably a very desirable option.
Buy the car you want and someone else will want it later.
1LT is less desirable, but someone is always looking for a bargain. 2LT is the sweet spot that everyone wants. 3LT is a lot higher cost, probably harder to sell.
Mag Ride probably a very desirable option.
Buy the car you want and someone else will want it later.
#23
Race Director
The Z-51 option is the highest valued return for resale. Mag ride and front life are also good for resale. Other aftermarket cosmetic mods are almost a giveaway unless you find a buyer that appreciates and wants your aftermarket mods. As a side comment, I mod the car for myself and rarely consider resale especially on aftermarket mods.
#24
Race Director
The Z-51 option is the highest valued return for resale. Mag ride and front life are also good for resale. Other aftermarket cosmetic mods are almost a giveaway unless you find a buyer that appreciates and wants your aftermarket mods. As a side comment, I mod the car for myself and rarely consider resale especially on aftermarket mods.
The only thing good for resale is exterior and interior color.
50 plus pct are HTC and the other 50 pct are coupes.
Thats the jist of this.
You can option a car with mag ride npp z51 etc etc. If the colors aren't right? You're taking a bigger hit. And it will take longer to sell.
Try a silver with tan interior mag ride lift 2lt car vs a white red or black 1lt no option and see they take the same cash after a few years
You pay 7500 more for an HTC. a used HTC isn't going to be 7500 more than a couple either. So in essence the coupe holds resale better not by much.
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#25
You don't make money buying performance cars, this is an expensive hobby.
There are countless threads on who paid less and who got the best deal, blah, blah, blah.
I paid 5K over and i am one very happy C-8 owner, I really do not care what My resale value ever will be.
I do know that the next driver who gets My car will be one very lucky owner (just like I am)
There are countless threads on who paid less and who got the best deal, blah, blah, blah.
I paid 5K over and i am one very happy C-8 owner, I really do not care what My resale value ever will be.
I do know that the next driver who gets My car will be one very lucky owner (just like I am)
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#26
Race Director
You don't make money buying performance cars, this is an expensive hobby.
There are countless threads on who paid less and who got the best deal, blah, blah, blah.
I paid 5K over and i am one very happy C-8 owner, I really do not care what My resale value ever will be.
I do know that the next driver who gets My car will be one very lucky owner (just like I am)
There are countless threads on who paid less and who got the best deal, blah, blah, blah.
I paid 5K over and i am one very happy C-8 owner, I really do not care what My resale value ever will be.
I do know that the next driver who gets My car will be one very lucky owner (just like I am)
#28
I researched this on the C7. For that model it appeared to be the Z51 package. The used C7s with the Z51 package, but otherwise comparable to non-Z51 C7s, were selling an amount over the non-Z51 C7s that was just about equal to the price of the Z51 package.
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#29
Race Director
Any option is getting you MAX what the option cost.
The only exception to this rule are the manuals. And there's no "manual" C8s.
#30
That aligns with what I said.
Correct that there are no manual C8s. When I was looking at used C7s I was only looking at manuals and not closely comparing manuals to automatics, but on this point I think you probably are correct.
#31
Burning Brakes
NEVER.... EVER pick options for 'resale' value.... That's like ordering the car for someone else. Get what YOU want because that's what you want!
If people all ordered for resale value, all of 'em would come out of the factory painted RED!!!
If people all ordered for resale value, all of 'em would come out of the factory painted RED!!!
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#32
Instructor
Exactly, buy the car you want to drive, not the care you want to sell. If you buy it for resale value, then you feel compelled to not drive it as much, to preserve the resale value.
That's like having an Italian super model girlfriend, but you don't bang her so you can keep her fresh for the next guy...
That's like having an Italian super model girlfriend, but you don't bang her so you can keep her fresh for the next guy...
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#33
3LT it it was me. Only option that really matters other than HTC or coupe.
#34
I'm ordering new, because I don't trust the used market. A lot of owners seem to be rather cavalier with their choices, and reason that they will simply trade up in 2-3 years, so they will just buy whatever experience has taught them they want.
I do NOT trust the market on something like that. Not in a color that is consistently near the bottom on take rate. If I wanted black, white or torch red, I probably wouldn't even entertain the idea of buying new. Add to that the only way to get interior trim panels in the color I want--is to go for that specific color on trim level 3. Then you toss in black canopy HTC, stealth interior, black exhaust tips, body color mirrors/accents, and you're in rarefied air, as most will have started vomiting up carbon fiber all over their order sheet at this point--and I detest it.
p.s.
For the sake of comparison, let's use 2023 numbers for a Z, since the ER isn't available yet. That's ~5880. ~2880 are HTC. ~235 total (coupe and HTC) are AYM. So it would be reasonable to assume that about half/half, so ~118 units. 9% take rate on SCG. So now you have ~11 total units that may have some form of AYM over SCG in HTC. And that's not even factoring in 1 vs 2 vs 3, or other options.
That's why new.
I do NOT trust the market on something like that. Not in a color that is consistently near the bottom on take rate. If I wanted black, white or torch red, I probably wouldn't even entertain the idea of buying new. Add to that the only way to get interior trim panels in the color I want--is to go for that specific color on trim level 3. Then you toss in black canopy HTC, stealth interior, black exhaust tips, body color mirrors/accents, and you're in rarefied air, as most will have started vomiting up carbon fiber all over their order sheet at this point--and I detest it.
p.s.
For the sake of comparison, let's use 2023 numbers for a Z, since the ER isn't available yet. That's ~5880. ~2880 are HTC. ~235 total (coupe and HTC) are AYM. So it would be reasonable to assume that about half/half, so ~118 units. 9% take rate on SCG. So now you have ~11 total units that may have some form of AYM over SCG in HTC. And that's not even factoring in 1 vs 2 vs 3, or other options.
That's why new.
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#35
Instructor
I'm ordering new, because I don't trust the used market. A lot of owners seem to be rather cavalier with their choices, and reason that they will simply trade up in 2-3 years, so they will just buy whatever experience has taught them they want.
I do NOT trust the market on something like that. Not in a color that is consistently near the bottom on take rate. If I wanted black, white or torch red, I probably wouldn't even entertain the idea of buying new. Add to that the only way to get interior trim panels in the color I want--is to go for that specific color on trim level 3. Then you toss in black canopy HTC, stealth interior, black exhaust tips, body color mirrors/accents, and you're in rarefied air, as most will have started vomiting up carbon fiber all over their order sheet at this point--and I detest it.
p.s.
For the sake of comparison, let's use 2023 numbers for a Z, since the ER isn't available yet. That's ~5880. ~2880 are HTC. ~235 total (coupe and HTC) are AYM. So it would be reasonable to assume that about half/half, so ~118 units. 9% take rate on SCG. So now you have ~11 total units that may have some form of AYM over SCG in HTC. And that's not even factoring in 1 vs 2 vs 3, or other options.
That's why new.
I do NOT trust the market on something like that. Not in a color that is consistently near the bottom on take rate. If I wanted black, white or torch red, I probably wouldn't even entertain the idea of buying new. Add to that the only way to get interior trim panels in the color I want--is to go for that specific color on trim level 3. Then you toss in black canopy HTC, stealth interior, black exhaust tips, body color mirrors/accents, and you're in rarefied air, as most will have started vomiting up carbon fiber all over their order sheet at this point--and I detest it.
p.s.
For the sake of comparison, let's use 2023 numbers for a Z, since the ER isn't available yet. That's ~5880. ~2880 are HTC. ~235 total (coupe and HTC) are AYM. So it would be reasonable to assume that about half/half, so ~118 units. 9% take rate on SCG. So now you have ~11 total units that may have some form of AYM over SCG in HTC. And that's not even factoring in 1 vs 2 vs 3, or other options.
That's why new.
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#36
Burning Brakes
I hate the vomiting of carbon fiber... Its like, people think that carbon fiber makes the car more exotic... And it doesn't... Not when its just stuff stapled to the outside of it or all over the interior... It we are taking about some carbon fiber space age chassis, sure... But cup holders and headrests and whatever else... Can't wait for that fad to go away...
A carbon fiber glovebox cover attached with 3M tape does not lighten the glovebox, does not meaningfully strengthen it.
Twenty years from now restorers will be posting tips on how to remove these "upgrades". Inarguable.
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#37
Instructor
Carbon fiber's virtue is that it can provide strength, or reduce weight.
A carbon fiber glovebox cover attached with 3M tape does not lighten the glovebox, does not meaningfully strengthen it.
Twenty years from now restorers will be posting tips on how to remove these "upgrades". Inarguable.
A carbon fiber glovebox cover attached with 3M tape does not lighten the glovebox, does not meaningfully strengthen it.
Twenty years from now restorers will be posting tips on how to remove these "upgrades". Inarguable.
#38
Burning Brakes
I hate the vomiting of carbon fiber... Its like, people think that carbon fiber makes the car more exotic... And it doesn't... Not when its just stuff stapled to the outside of it or all over the interior... It we are taking about some carbon fiber space age chassis, sure... But cup holders and headrests and whatever else... Can't wait for that fad to go away...
You save a lot of money not having a carbon fiber fetish!
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#39
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Wheel options probably don’t get much of a resale bump. Any aftermarket mods might hurt resale. HTC may be one of the better resale options in Florida, but not NY. NPP probably not great, it’s too quiet in every mode.
#40
765LT seats. This is pretty much the only acceptable way seats should have carbon fiber visible. Notice how the rest of the CF accents are not high-gloss, but rather satin/eggshell finish. It's the little things that matter.