UAW Labor Contract Increases GM Vehicle Cost By $500
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11-30-2023, 09:42 PM
Le Mans Master
I don't have a problem with american autoworkers getting a fair wage. I have a problem with them thinking that a fair wage for them is higher than market rate wages of unskilled labor in other areas; and when teachers, nurses, etc. put in time and money to learn a profession but then not getting compensated at a proportionally higher rate. A fair wage is what the market will bear for your skill level. If you want a higher wage then put some effort in increasing your skill level.
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#3
Burning Brakes
How about an increase in quality?
Here's the question I posted on 'Autoline Today': Is is true the 'transplants' auto manufacturers have better quality than the the UAW plants?
How about Tesla quality?
I am proud to own a 2024 HTC. The only problem in 2 months of ownership is the passenger seat-belt retractor locked up and had to be replaced.
I have a 'whine' noise under light throttle but it is getting better over time. So I will assume the noise will end after gears and differential break-in.
Love the car. Merry Christmas to all, and to all vroom-vroom.
Here's the question I posted on 'Autoline Today': Is is true the 'transplants' auto manufacturers have better quality than the the UAW plants?
How about Tesla quality?
I am proud to own a 2024 HTC. The only problem in 2 months of ownership is the passenger seat-belt retractor locked up and had to be replaced.
I have a 'whine' noise under light throttle but it is getting better over time. So I will assume the noise will end after gears and differential break-in.
Love the car. Merry Christmas to all, and to all vroom-vroom.
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#4
Le Mans Master
"General Motors did not indicate if the increased production costs would be handed over to the consumer."
Yea, like they're just going to take the hit out of the bottom line. Stockholders would love that.
Yea, like they're just going to take the hit out of the bottom line. Stockholders would love that.
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How about an increase in quality?
Here's the question I posted on 'Autoline Today': Is is true the 'transplants' auto manufacturers have better quality than the the UAW plants?
How about Tesla quality?
I am proud to own a 2024 HTC. The only problem in 2 months of ownership is the passenger seat-belt retractor locked up and had to be replaced.
I have a 'whine' noise under light throttle but it is getting better over time. So I will assume the noise will end after gears and differential break-in.
Love the car. Merry Christmas to all, and to all vroom-vroom.
Here's the question I posted on 'Autoline Today': Is is true the 'transplants' auto manufacturers have better quality than the the UAW plants?
How about Tesla quality?
I am proud to own a 2024 HTC. The only problem in 2 months of ownership is the passenger seat-belt retractor locked up and had to be replaced.
I have a 'whine' noise under light throttle but it is getting better over time. So I will assume the noise will end after gears and differential break-in.
Love the car. Merry Christmas to all, and to all vroom-vroom.
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#6
Le Mans Master
BTW, the $500 MSRP increase is just the start as industry analysts have said GM will have to raise prices across the board $5,000 in the next few years to offset the cost of the new labor contract.
#7
Earth to uninformed one. 90% of GM profits are pour right back into the business in the way of R&D, new car design/development, retrofit and retooling factories, new paint plants and let’s not forget the untold BILLIONS GM is spending on its transition to elect vehicles.
BTW, the $500 MSRP increase is just the start as industry analysts have said GM will have to raise prices across the board $5,000 in the next few years to offset the cost of the new labor contract.
BTW, the $500 MSRP increase is just the start as industry analysts have said GM will have to raise prices across the board $5,000 in the next few years to offset the cost of the new labor contract.
But hey let’s throw stones at the employees getting paid better costing us money instead of you know…. Not doing stock buy backs to pay for those new contracts. Especially at $10 billion.
Last edited by chevyrules727; 11-30-2023 at 05:21 PM.
#8
Drifting
On Autoline Daily they said GM plans no price increases. Will be offset by reduction in EV and autonomous development and other cost cutting measures.
#9
GM is in a competitive market. They don't have the freedom to just increase prices if competitors, including non-union companies, are offering product at lower prices.
Last edited by Red Mist Rulz; 11-30-2023 at 04:19 PM.
#10
Earth to uninformed one. 90% of GM profits are pour right back into the business in the way of R&D, new car design/development, retrofit and retooling factories, new paint plants and let’s not forget the untold BILLIONS GM is spending on its transition to elect vehicles.
BTW, the $500 MSRP increase is just the start as industry analysts have said GM will have to raise prices across the board $5,000 in the next few years to offset the cost of the new labor contract.
BTW, the $500 MSRP increase is just the start as industry analysts have said GM will have to raise prices across the board $5,000 in the next few years to offset the cost of the new labor contract.
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#11
Safety Car
You can chose to believe it...or not. This is how capitalism and private enterprise (GM specifically in this video) works: https://www.gmnegotiations2023.com/p...its%20everyone.
#12
Race Director
Hit the market perfectly! Happy workers getting pay increases built my car, but my price was set before the strike.
#13
Le Mans Master
GM goes through great efforts just to save a few pennies on a part. If another manufacturer has lower costs to make a similar product and both products sell at a similar price then the other manufacturer will have higher profits. Stockholders will shift to a company with more value all else being equal. I rather invest in a company that is more profitable than a company that isn't. GM will need to lower costs in other areas to maintain profitability if they don't raise prices. On of the areas that often suffers when this happens is quality. If you could always absorb cost increases then why limit them?
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#14
Le Mans Master
GM has announced that they will be doing $10 billion in stock buy backs which is what I was referencing.
But hey let’s throw stones at the employees getting paid better costing us money instead of you know…. Not doing stock buy backs to pay for those new contracts. Especially at $10 billion.
But hey let’s throw stones at the employees getting paid better costing us money instead of you know…. Not doing stock buy backs to pay for those new contracts. Especially at $10 billion.
#16
Le Mans Master
I don't have a problem with american autoworkers getting a fair wage. I have a problem with them thinking that a fair wage for them is higher than market rate wages of unskilled labor in other areas; and when teachers, nurses, etc. put in time and money to learn a profession but then not getting compensated at a proportionally higher rate. A fair wage is what the market will bear for your skill level. If you want a higher wage then put some effort in increasing your skill level.
#17
Melting Slicks
I don't have a problem with american autoworkers getting a fair wage. I have a problem with them thinking that a fair wage for them is higher than market rate wages of unskilled labor in other areas; and when teachers, nurses, etc. put in time and money to learn a profession but then not getting compensated at a proportionally higher rate. A fair wage is what the market will bear for your skill level. If you want a higher wage then put some effort in increasing your skill level.
I don't agree that means that autoworkers should take less because another group is underpaid. Everyone should be paid fairly. That's the core of the American dream, isn't it?