Drew888

It is hard to embrace the EV's because they lack the thrill and sound of ICE. With that said we also don't have any affordable sports car EV options. It is true the difference in the way they make power is a factor. The Tycan is geared which does help utilize the lower speed torque better in the higher speed range.

Majestic94

Negative: it takes a 1000hp EV to do what ICE's do with almost half the hp. People saying this crap are stupid and don't understand physics.

Some people are so worried about being obsolete they'll make stupid irrelevant comparisons.

Drew888

I'm going to disagree, if all is equal it takes the same power. A 1000hp EV has a much faster acceleration than a 500-700hp ice vehicle. A Chiron and Model S are comparable.

khartford

This is useful information in the event I buy one of the cars participating and I find myself hitting the brakes @ 150 mph.

Majestic94

Model S isn't a sports car. At Nurburgring even at over 1000 hp it's only running 7:35 lap times (a stock C8 ran 7:30 with rwd and half the hp). The Model S is an example of why EV's are worse than ICE's. 0-60 times is one of the most abused EV attributes that people confuse with a good sports car.

Drew888

This thread was about 0-150-0. May want to go back and check on that. If we compare apples to apples it would be comparing a CTSV to a S on a road course. The S is proportionally faster.

As much as I hate to say it, electric powertrains are a huge advancement over ICE. The difference is much greater than the flat head to ohv. It’s more equivalent to a radial piston aeroplane engine to a turbine. The real limiting factor is the battery tech.

swift93

There are many fast cars out there and the EVs lead the pack. Tesla Plaid smokes the McLaren in spite of the 720 running 0-150 mph in 10.2.

Mitchell_B

The Z06s performance would be much better if the gear spacing made more sense. As is, the DCT really is a 5 speed with 3 overdrive gears.

Kevin93

Yes, EVs are scorching fast in a line.

But, they're equally bad in translating that to track performance. The Tesla Model S Plaid with "Track Pack" has 1,020 horsepower - more than double the Stingray's - and its Ring time is almost identical. Must be quite a non-confidence-inspiring handful to get around corners to give up all the time gained in the straights.

Drew888

You’re comparing a sports car to a 4 door family sedan. There will be more ev sports cars in the future.

proeagles

I'm impressed by the stopping power of the fastest stopping cars. The Mustang Dark Horse stopping power confirmed what I thought about my GT350's brakes since they are the same. I've never driven a car that could stop that fast, including my BMW race cars back in the day.

Majestic94

It's an EV's battery weight that's the problem, not the number of doors.

Majestic94

So does a Dodge Demon. I guess supercharged Hemis are the real technology leap everybody should be banking on?

Majestic94

So it's a huge advancement but limited by its own power supply? It pretty much negates the advancement.

I've been in and out of the EV market for 10 years now and I've never seen a more overhyped drivetrain technology. The electric motor is great, but it's not new and the reason it's not used in every vehicle for the past 100 years is the horrendous energy storage. Consider the most advanced battery is still 100 times the weight of a gallon of gas. Then add all the limitations (no storing at peak charge or empty charge, slow charge times, battery degradation from charging cycles, fast charging, etc.), excessive energy use during production, and extra cost, and its clear it's never going to be a replacement for ICE. It's terrible in trucks (towing range drops to about 90 miles), terrible in sports cars (extra weight), and terrible in cross country driving (you're guaranteed to get to your destination slower than ICE).
It's more equivalent to 4 cyl vs 8 than radial piston vs turbine,

RKTKTV

Tadda - thanks for posting the chart.

To change the discussion slightly - anyone care to guesstimate where a Z51 Stingray would fit in this list? (This interests me more than the discussion of the impending death of ICE. Sorry.)

Car and Driver test results show 0-60 = 2.8, 0-100 =7.2, quarter mile = 11.2 @ 122, and 0-150 = 19.4. Those are "knowns". (Yes, I know. Different test conditions, so not an absolute comparison.)

Where does the braking of the Z51 put the Stingray in the list? Any opinions? I think we can probably out-brake the heavier Cadillac and Bentley. Will it be enough to overcome the speed disadvantage, though, and pass them in the final results? I'm going to say yes, just to start the fight.