So Conti Confirms Grand Sport Coming
#41
I agree there is a market for the GS, and it doesn't have to be more than $10k more than the Stingray base price, as it was for the C7.
I disagree that the Z06 production is limited by the engine building. Each generation of Z06 has had a hand built engine, and if we remember 2016 saw over 14k Z06s produced.
I disagree that the Z06 production is limited by the engine building. Each generation of Z06 has had a hand built engine, and if we remember 2016 saw over 14k Z06s produced.
That said, I've seen no evidence the engine is currently the limiting factor for Z06 production.
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hamta (11-21-2023)
#42
Melting Slicks
Z06/ZR1 imposter IMO. I know others will disagree. I had just bought a new 2008 Z06 when GM introduced the GranSport, it was insulting and no I was not happy. It takes away exclusivity from high performance models that GM charges a premium for. Sure it sells, people love a cheap Z06 looking car. Sorry I have never liked it and never will.
Not exactly a crowd I'd really care what they thought.
Anyone who has driven one knows Grand Sports are the sweat spots of the model line.
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GinCin (11-25-2023)
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Very interesting! I’ve literally been on his “waitlist” since February 13th 2021. I wonder why this guy isn’t calling me? I’m guessing he screwed 4 folks out of their orders is how he has stock.
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EVL-C8 (11-21-2023)
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Well, I wouldn't go that far. He is just trying to make a living. What I don't like is him lecturing people for asking questions about delays in the car orders. It makes his otherwise harmless vids irritating. Oh, and his use of sound effects is terrible!
The guy that really bothers me in the "Brink of Speed" guy. Him and his posse....having their own live broadcast on Tuesday nights....boring!
The guy that really bothers me in the "Brink of Speed" guy. Him and his posse....having their own live broadcast on Tuesday nights....boring!
I had to double-check that this htread I'm reading here is new.
WTF is up w this dood Conti? Is he sick? WHy he lie so much? Why you defend?
#45
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Well, I wouldn't go that far. He is just trying to make a living. What I don't like is him lecturing people for asking questions about delays in the car orders. It makes his otherwise harmless vids irritating. Oh, and his use of sound effects is terrible!
The guy that really bothers me in the "Brink of Speed" guy. Him and his posse....having their own live broadcast on Tuesday nights....boring!
The guy that really bothers me in the "Brink of Speed" guy. Him and his posse....having their own live broadcast on Tuesday nights....boring!
Im not all over these forums like I used to be but I specifically remeber a thread in recent past that Conti was spewing exact same ****.
I had to double-check that this htread I'm reading here is new.
WTF is up w this dood Conti? Is he sick? WHy he lie so much? Why you defend?
I had to double-check that this htread I'm reading here is new.
WTF is up w this dood Conti? Is he sick? WHy he lie so much? Why you defend?
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Landru (11-21-2023)
#46
Everyone wanting more Z06s to be made seems to not understand that C8 Z06s are production-limited due to the engine. They can only produce so many of those hand built engines so fast.
The market is there for a GS. Some of us love the Z06 body but HATE the electric motor crap in the Eray, not least of all bc of the weight it adds.
If a Grand Sport was introduced with 85k base price I'd jump on it like stink on ****.
The market is there for a GS. Some of us love the Z06 body but HATE the electric motor crap in the Eray, not least of all bc of the weight it adds.
If a Grand Sport was introduced with 85k base price I'd jump on it like stink on ****.
Oh, and becasue of the SUBSTANTIAL difference in tire width (as demonstrated by people who test-mounted SR wheels to a Z06)--you'd need the wider wheels. So now you have a slower SR variant that is your GS--and without the C/C brakes in order to get it to that coveted price point that the cheapskates want.
#47
Melting Slicks
I agree there is a market for the GS, and it doesn't have to be more than $10k more than the Stingray base price, as it was for the C7.
I disagree that the Z06 production is limited by the engine building. Each generation of Z06 has had a hand built engine, and if we remember 2016 saw over 14k Z06s produced.
I disagree that the Z06 production is limited by the engine building. Each generation of Z06 has had a hand built engine, and if we remember 2016 saw over 14k Z06s produced.
#48
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It's not the engine that is the limiting factor. Otherwise, E-Rays would already be being churned out in droves. And the only way GS would be listed for 15k or less over SR is if GM decides that E-Ray needs to DIAF and the Z06 owners need a middle finger.
Oh, and becasue of the SUBSTANTIAL difference in tire width (as demonstrated by people who test-mounted SR wheels to a Z06)--you'd need the wider wheels. So now you have a slower SR variant that is your GS--and without the C/C brakes in order to get it to that coveted price point that the cheapskates want.
Oh, and becasue of the SUBSTANTIAL difference in tire width (as demonstrated by people who test-mounted SR wheels to a Z06)--you'd need the wider wheels. So now you have a slower SR variant that is your GS--and without the C/C brakes in order to get it to that coveted price point that the cheapskates want.
Calling non Z06 vette buyers cheapskates but insinuating Z06 buyers arent is ridiculous. If your tastes are so discerning and money is no object just buy a McLaren and leave the vette forums be. Good grief.
Even IF a C8 GS is made AND is any slower at all than a base SR, I doubt it would be more than a tenth to 60. And even if it were more I wouldnt care. Some of us like the look (ish, that fat a-- shoulda been trimmed) and dont have our dooger and bubbles shrink just bc we arent the fastest kid on the block.
PS - both Eray and Z06 are slower in a straight line than a plaid. So if speed is your end goal you are in the wrong place. And unless youre a professional driver you arent going to notice a difference between a SR and a hypothetical C8 GS around a road course.
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#49
I just confirmed it with Mary Barra. Sam
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RiptideHTC (11-22-2023)
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In past generations the GS was offered as sales waned, kind of a last kick in the *** in the last couple years of generation production. Simplistically it is a wide body with the base engine. From what I am reading, we will have to get past ZR1, Zora, and if sales have waned, then GS. If 2029 is C9, I am guessing that means around 2027 we might see the GS.
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In past generations the GS was offered as sales waned, kind of a last kick in the *** in the last couple years of generation production. Simplistically it is a wide body with the base engine. From what I am reading, we will have to get past ZR1, Zora, and if sales have waned, then GS. If 2029 is C9, I am guessing that means around 2027 we might see the GS.
I'm probably one of the few who would go 100% the opposite direction of the GS lusting crowd. I'd rather have an SR with Z51 and the FWD system. No widebody. No C/C brakes. No wider tires. Probably lose a few lbs to boot. Ultimate sleeper.
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You CLEARLY and OBVIOUSLY have no idea of what you're talking about! Furman is the Number One selling Corvette salesperson in the world and has been widely recognized throughout the Corvette Community (General Motors, NCRS, etc.) as a Corvette expert! Your opinion is completely baseless and clueless...
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#56
For all you anti-GS naysayers, try this in your base SR. Turn off all the nannies and blast the loud pedal from a start and find out what happens. I bet most of you have never done that and have no idea what the nannies are doing. Even when you use the launch control, the nannies are keeping the car from looking like a Mustang meet. The GS8 would be absolutely awesome.
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#58
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I can see a GS adopting the cosmetics of a Zora--since the Zora is already going to be in the 200k range without even trying. And that would possibly make sense as a last-gasp thing.
I'm probably one of the few who would go 100% the opposite direction of the GS lusting crowd. I'd rather have an SR with Z51 and the FWD system. No widebody. No C/C brakes. No wider tires. Probably lose a few lbs to boot. Ultimate sleeper.
I'm probably one of the few who would go 100% the opposite direction of the GS lusting crowd. I'd rather have an SR with Z51 and the FWD system. No widebody. No C/C brakes. No wider tires. Probably lose a few lbs to boot. Ultimate sleeper.
I mostly use my Z51 for touring with the occasional spirited driving through the twisties. The advantage of the Z51 for street use is it tightens up the feel of the Stingray and with MSRC you can still have a touring ride similar to the non-Z51. There are very little downsides for street, mainly brake dust and that can be addressed with different pads; and summer tires which isn't much of an issue where I live.
The wider tires and associated spring rates of a GS would bring more noise, rougher ride, more tramlining, weight, maintenance cost, etc. for very little return on the street other than looks, which are subjective.
I had an opportunity to "upgrade" my C7 MSRC Z51 to a GS for the difference in MSRP and I declined for the above reasons.
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For all you anti-GS naysayers, try this in your base SR. Turn off all the nannies and blast the loud pedal from a start and find out what happens. I bet most of you have never done that and have no idea what the nannies are doing. Even when you use the launch control, the nannies are keeping the car from looking like a Mustang meet. The GS8 would be absolutely awesome.
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Phil1098 (11-21-2023)
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I'm not sure everyone on this thread is a GS naysayer, just doubting the fact that GM is building one or that in the case that they do it would even be available anytime soon.
For me the widebody made more sense on the C7 since it was a far more noticeable difference on the street. The C8 Stingray is already a big car with a big body and unless I can see the boomerang on the side it's hard to tell that a C8 widebody is coming at me on the highway. It's just not that significant a difference. Even with that difference I was never tempted to sell my C7 Stingray and buy a Grand Sport but I was tempted more than once to sell it and move up to a Z06 or a ZR1.
For me the widebody made more sense on the C7 since it was a far more noticeable difference on the street. The C8 Stingray is already a big car with a big body and unless I can see the boomerang on the side it's hard to tell that a C8 widebody is coming at me on the highway. It's just not that significant a difference. Even with that difference I was never tempted to sell my C7 Stingray and buy a Grand Sport but I was tempted more than once to sell it and move up to a Z06 or a ZR1.
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