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I'm looking for a used (or new) C8 convertible and am surprised by how many non-Z51 cars are out there. Why would you want one without it? Also, I drove two of them and I would never get one without the magnetic ride suspension. And BTW -whether or not the car has Z51 is not really clear ion the ads. I should think that would be the first thing after the LT status. Which brings the question: Why would anyone order a 1 LT?
Owned a 2021 Z51 coupe in FL, liked the upgrades but never really drove it the way it was intended. Now that I live in PA my 2024 is a non Z51 HTC with Mag ride and NPP so I can drive it all year. Will be installing splitter and spoiler.
So the OP posts one inflammatory thread and never returns. Throws a turd in the CF punch bowl and sits back to watch all the old Corvette owners get up in arms. Time to close this worthless thread.
Electronically controlled clutch pack differential. Routes power electronically based upon mode and slip parameters between right and left and all the other inputs (accelerations, angles, gas, brake, etc). On the Z51, you can go into PTM for even more of the options.
I have a 1LT non Z51 and I love the car. The bigger question is why do you need more than 1LT. It doesn't come with cloth seats, no A/C, one speaker radio, and crank windows. For me, everything in 2LT is fluff that I don't care about. The ride in non Z51 is firm but not harsh, it isn't too soft and floaty either. I can double any posted speed on any corner, so since it's street driven the car is fully capable of doing anything that anyone should ever attempt, there is no need. If you track the car you need Z51, if you don't you're just trying to impress at C&C.
I totally agree mine rides better then any Vette I owned and I drive my when its really cold so need all season tires
Owned a 2021 Z51 coupe in FL, liked the upgrades but never really drove it the way it was intended. Now that I live in PA my 2024 is a non Z51 HTC with Mag ride and NPP so I can drive it all year. Will be installing splitter and spoiler.
I skipped the Z51 option but like you, I included the NPP and mag ride. I figured I saved about $5K on options I knew I would never get any benefit from on the street.
I also added the front splitter and a spoiler a few months after I bought my C8.
After owning my C8 for a little over 2 1/2 years, skipping the Z51 option was one of the best decisions I made. The all-season tires, low brake dust, and great ride and handling with the mag ride shocks make for a great GT car.
I'm looking for a used (or new) C8 convertible and am surprised by how many non-Z51 cars are out there. Why would you want one without it? Also, I drove two of them and I would never get one without the magnetic ride suspension. And BTW -whether or not the car has Z51 is not really clear ion the ads. I should think that would be the first thing after the LT status. Which brings the question: Why would anyone order a 1 LT?
That drives me insane - Autotrader for example, you can't reliably identify cars with or without Z51... hell you can't reliably identify trim levels there either. Truecar at least allows you to filter on Trims properly.
For me - I have a 2021 with Z51, and I ordered a 2024 without Z51 (that's en route to the dealer right now, I'm trading the '21 in for the '24)
The Z51 didn't buy me anything really. I don't track the car and I live in WA. So the extra performance on the brakes/cooling isn't really beneficial. Plus the more aggressive tires means I'd need to buy a set of winter tires - since I drive this thing in cooler temps. I did still order the perf exhaust, and the mag rid suspension though. Also - just personally - I wasn't a big fan of the Z51 spoiler - so I went with the low profile spoiler instead.
I realize non-z51 probably has lower resale value, but I also have 3LT which offsets that some. Also - the Z51 package was on constraint - My 2024 went from "Order Placed" to "En route to dealer" in about 4 weeks!!!
Perhaps you simply desire that Z71 flair in your Vette, without the need for constant bragging. The melodious Z71 exhaust notes do have their charm, and let's be honest, we all buy what we truly desire, even if it's just for the cool factor, not the track performance. 🚗💨🎶
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Originally Posted by Tsnloiv
I'm looking for a used (or new) C8 convertible and am surprised by how many non-Z51 cars are out there. Why would you want one without it? Also, I drove two of them and I would never get one without the magnetic ride suspension. And BTW -whether or not the car has Z51 is not really clear ion the ads. I should think that would be the first thing after the LT status. Which brings the question: Why would anyone order a 1 LT?
As the owner of a non-Z51 car (with MagRide), it is still an awesome handling car with great performance. For street use (even hard driving on twisty back/mountain roads), there is zero need for a Z51. All 10 of my previous Corvettes have been some form of Z51/Z06/GS/ZR1, and I can tell you the C8 non-Z51 is better than any of them for street use. I do have a Z06 order in, but honestly, if it wasn't for my strong desire for the 8600rpm and the sound of the FPC, I'd just keep our current 2023 (again non-Z51 with MagRide). Plus, the non-Z51 has some benefits for many people with brake pads that don't dust much, and all-season tires that are probably within 10% of the summer only tires for performance, but can be driven year round (if I could, I'd have specced my Z06 with them).
As for 1LT, in general I would agree with you that I'd never order a current Corvette without 2LT, if it were a choice of 1LT Corvette or no Corvette, I'd definitely take the 1LT. Plus for many owners, it's a weekend toy, so they really don't feel the need for the extra amenities of the 2/3LT package. It's all features that are nice to have, and if you have them you'll use them, but ultimately many feel they can live without them for a toy vehicle.
So the OP posts one inflammatory thread and never returns. Throws a turd in the CF punch bowl and sits back to watch all the old Corvette owners get up in arms. Time to close this worthless thread.
It is not uncommon for new members to post an inquiry which answers to their questions are self explanatory. I would not doubt getting attention to be the main goal, and most times it is successful.
Electronically controlled clutch pack differential. Routes power electronically based upon mode and slip parameters between right and left and all the other inputs (accelerations, angles, gas, brake, etc). On the Z51, you can go into PTM for even more of the options.
Only if the Z51 also has Mag Ride. Both eLSD and MSRC are required to get PTM on the C8.
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Just about any goods, services, insurances, medications have double from 3 years ago, building a house costs twice as much as 5 years ago, and don't get sick or have medical procedures. I recently had a scheduled procedure which not counting the prep lasted about an hour. Just the hospital bill was $100K. Once prices inflate they never deflate and those who are not fortunate enough to keep up will either be in debt for the rest of their lives or lose everything.
Reagan once said "... recession is when your neighbor loses his house, depression is when you lose yours..." It sure is easy to smile when the sun shines.
I'm looking for a used (or new) C8 convertible and am surprised by how many non-Z51 cars are out there. Why would you want one without it? Also, I drove two of them and I would never get one without the magnetic ride suspension. And BTW -whether or not the car has Z51 is not really clear ion the ads. I should think that would be the first thing after the LT status. Which brings the question: Why would anyone order a 1 LT?
Every Vette I've had before the C8 was Z51 and I really enjoyed the performance that came with it. But I was tired of getting less than 10,000 miles out of a very expensive set of summer only performance tires; you can trash the tires if you drive on when it's too cold; and they absolutely suck traction-wise in the wet. Cost was not a factor when it came to buying the C8 without Z51 and I don't track the Vette. I simply wanted the benefits that come with the all season tires.
The reason there are different trim levels is because believe it or not, people are different. Chevrolet saw that and offered trim levels to cover the wants of all buyers.
You would think this would be painfully obvious to most people. But with that said resale value should always be a consideration.
Well good for you. Most Americans wouldn’t agree. $700 more per month in expenses tells a different story for most.
That and the fact that 1 in 15 car loans are over 60 days late and that's a record high number. There are a lot of Americans that are playing Whack-A-Mole with their bills coming in. The most disconcerting thing is, there is no reason for interest to come back down and prices will not for sure. Now we're paying for all the free COVID $$$$ and it will be like this for years. I suspect in the next few years restaurants will be closing wholesale. Eating out has become ridiculously expensive.
It is not uncommon for new members to post an inquiry which answers to their questions are self explanatory. I would not doubt getting attention to be the main goal, and most times it is successful.
George
No, he was definitely a troll...and now he's nowhere to be found of course.
I get what you’re saying. I would need at least 2LT as I won’t have a car without heated seats or head up display. Come to think of it, I could probably forgo the Z51 if I got the magnetic ride suspension. Thanks for your reply.
10-26-2023, 07:58 AM
