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Old 09-20-2023, 09:47 AM
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If I drive primarily in manual do I significantly reduce the possibility of a collapsed lifter and its associated problems? Pros and cons please. When in manual how quick upon stopping does it automatically go into 1st?
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Old 09-20-2023, 10:14 AM
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If I drive primarily in manual do I significantly reduce the possibility of a collapsed lifter and its associated problems? Pros and cons please. When in manual how quick upon stopping does it automatically go into 1st?
You can, of course, shift to 1 manually if going slow enough. I sometimes do but not often. All I can say about how fast it does it automatically if in manual mode, is its fast enough. When slowing to a complete stop, even if I downshift to second, I rarely shift to first - allowing it to that last shift on its own. I have never noticed any issue with that.

As for whether or not avoiding AFM will avoid any failure of the AFM lifters - I have not seen any evidence of that. My theory is that it may be better to allow that functionality to exercise occasionally. But there is no proof of that either. If a lifter fails, its probably a defect. And if it is, it will eventually reveal itself anyway - again, my theory. Some websites report that AFM lifter failure on previous models is sometimes attributed to the wrong oil, dirty oil, or low oil.
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I, personally, am not worried about the AFM functionality. There is no evidence that the lifters on the AFM cylinders will fail any quicker or more often than lifters on normal cylinders. My wife's 2013 Camaro has AFM and she now has 110K miles on her car and it's still going strong. Stuff happens and I wouldn't lose sleep over the AFM system.

As for manual mode, I treat it like a normal manual shifter just without the clutch. I don't see how there would be any problems shifting into first yourself or letting the car do it.
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Originally Posted by BobinCali
If I drive primarily in manual do I significantly reduce the possibility of a collapsed lifter and its associated problems? Pros and cons please. When in manual how quick upon stopping does it automatically go into 1st?
I drive in manual almost 100% of the time as I find it more engaging/enjoyable. Not sure if it helps with lifter wear, which I'm really not concerned about, but being in manual mode does prevent V4/AFM functionality. As to shifting to 1st automatically while in manual, you have to come to a full complete stop. If you roll the stop, or even stop and then quickly get back on it, I've found that it will sometimes stay in 2nd, which is typically fine given the short gearing.
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In spite of the scare stories, there's really no evidence that lifters are more likely to fail on the AFM cylinders than any other. But if one worries about that, driving in manual should eliminate the worry. I drive in manual in most non-highway situations because it's more fun for me, not because I'm worried about the lifters.

On my Stingray, the DCT doesn't shift into 1st until the car is almost stopped. In manual or auto.
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Old 09-20-2023, 04:03 PM
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Just drive the thing as you wish and get on with it. Nothing is "planned" to fail. If it does it can be fixed. Don't forget it's still a car from GM.
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I think there has been a history of AFM lifter failures in earlier engines mostly being attributed to dirty engine oil caused by not changing the oil frequently enough. I was looking at mechanical issues on a Pontiac website and there are quite a few G8's needing engines because of this, it would appear.
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