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Old 05-29-2023, 09:54 AM
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For those who missed it, a C8 Z06 paced and Chevy crossed the finish line 1st! As I watched I pondered. From time to time we get guys here busting on his other brand car as better yada yada yada. What I pondered is at Indy, where is Ferrari, Porche, Mercedes, Lotus, Toyota, Ford, Dodge, etc? I understand it is a $$$$ thing but we hear all the standard rips on Chevy yet only 2 brands choose to compete. We know what a great feat it is to build a Corvette at the price point GM it does. Maybe, just maybe the experience they gain at Indy pays off in Corvettes design and ability to keep it reasonable. I would guess on Tuesday, there will be an uptick on people wanting Corvettes. What wins on Sunday sells on Monday. Clearly Porsche, Mercedes, Lotus and Ferrari could afford to compete at Indy. When a guy with those brands rips on you about Chevy, ask how his brand did at Indy this year!

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Nobody, except a handful of Americans, cares about Indy, hence why none of the big names compete. It'll also have zero impact on Corvette sales.
Interesting......400k people attend Indy, makes it one of biggest sporting events in the world. F1 draws an average attendance of 35k per event.....less than most MLB games. Even LeMans draws less than Indy at around 275k. One could say F1 is attended mostly by a handful of Europeans.
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Mercedes and Ferrari compete in this little race series. Maybe you heard of it? It's called Formula 1.
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Mercedes and Ferrari compete in this little race series. Maybe you heard of it? It's called Formula 1.
No never heard of it.....duh. F1 is not the Greatest Spectacle in Motor Racing. Most F1 drivers would give their left nut to win Indy. In the old days of Indy many of the brands I mentioned showed up....even SCCA struggles to keep those brands participating.

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For those who missed it, a C8 Z06 paced and Chevy crossed the finish line 1st! As I watched I pondered. From time to time we get guys here busting on his other brand car as better yada yada yada. What I pondered is at Indy, where is Ferrari, Porche, Mercedes Toyota, Ford, Dodge, etc? I understand it is a $$$$ thing but we hear all the standard rips on Chevy yet only 2 brands choose to compete. We know what a great feat it is to build a Corvette at the price point GM it does. Maybe, just maybe the experience they gain at Indy pays off in Corvettes design and ability to keep it reasonable. I would guess on Tuesday, there will be an uptick on people wanting Corvettes. What wins on Sunday sells on Monday. Clearly Porsche, Mercedes and Ferrari could afford to compete at Indy. When a guy with those brands rips on you about Chevy, ask how his brand did at Indy this year!
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Mercedes and Ferrari compete in this little race series. Maybe you heard of it? It's called Formula 1.
There is no competition in Formula 1. Simply don't understand the appeal of single file racing where one team always wins.
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Nobody, except a handful of Americans, cares about Indy, hence why none of the big names compete. It'll also have zero impact on Corvette sales.
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Originally Posted by JABCAT
Nobody, except a handful of Americans, cares about Indy, hence why none of the big names compete. It'll also have zero impact on Corvette sales.
Interesting......400k people attend Indy, makes it one of biggest sporting events in the world. F1 draws an average attendance of 35k per event.....less than most MLB games. Even LeMans draws less than Indy at around 275k. One could say F1 is attended mostly by a handful of Europeans.
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Nobody, except a handful of Americans, cares about Indy, hence why none of the big names compete. It'll also have zero impact on Corvette sales.
Gets a handful of GM execs primo seating for supplying the cars though. And you are right. Indy 500 is yesterday's newspaper for sale today.
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There is no competition in Formula 1. Simply don't understand the appeal of single file racing where one team always wins.
Uh-huh, just like the Indy race for the majority of the race. Gotcha.
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Uh-huh, just like the Indy race for the majority of the race. Gotcha.
I meant this to be a fun post as this is supposed to be a Corvette forum. It looks like the high brow Bif mentality is in play though.though.It can't be good with a Chevy logo on it.....lol. for those with that mentality....sell the Vette and get another Bimmer. I will have fun smoking you in my gold bow tie, or buy some Porsche logos and glue them on your Vette...it will be better then!
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Pacing the Indy 500 is a great form of advertising for an auto manufacturer in my opinion. It is also my opinion that, no race show cases a pace car better than Indy.

I have been a motorsports fan since I was a kid in the 60s. I appreciate all types of motorsports, just how I appreciate all types of cars and car brands. I watch most any motorsports on television and have been to many types of racing events My favorite race is the Indy 500 followed by the 24 Hours Of LeMans.

Most types of racing have changed throughout the years. Years ago there were small private teams in most forms of racing. That is extremely rare now. In my opinion, that has taken the excitement and individuality out of racing. The balance of power has also taken much of the innovation our of racing. While I still enjoy racing, I don't enjoy it as much as I once did.
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Pacing the Indy 500 is a great form of advertising for an auto manufacturer in my opinion. It is also my opinion that, no race show cases a pace car better than Indy.

I have been a motorsports fan since I was a kid in the 60s. I appreciate all types of motorsports, just how I appreciate all types of cars and car brands. I watch most any motorsports on television and have been to many types of racing events My favorite race is the Indy 500 followed by the 24 Hours Of LeMans.

Most types of racing have changed throughout the years. Years ago there were small private teams in most forms of racing. That is extremely rare now. In my opinion, that has taken the excitement and individuality out of racing. The balance of power has also taken much of the innovation our of racing. While I still enjoy racing, I don't enjoy it as much as I once did.
I am with you 100% on all points, and I too have watched racing of all types since I was a young boy. All I wanted to do today with this post was high 5 Chevy on a great day at the biggest race in the world and to my surprise get mostly negative poo-poo posts about it.....on a Corvette forum none the less. As a over 20 year Corvette owner, I would just as soon those who prefer their Euro cars, sell their Vettes and buy Bimmers. It is fun smoking them in a bow tie I spent half on!
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Originally Posted by gliot1
Interesting......400k people attend Indy, makes it one of biggest sporting events in the world. F1 draws an average attendance of 35k per event.....less than most MLB games. Even LeMans draws less than Indy at around 275k. One could say F1 is attended mostly by a handful of Europeans.
You are way, way off. U.S. Grand Prix in 2022 had 440,000 people in attendance. Try again.
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You are way, way off. U.S. Grand Prix in 2022 had 440,000 people in attendance. Try again.
And the number for Indy that TV commentators kept mentioning was 300,000.
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The IndyCar series has always been a "little different." For the last couple of decades the series has only allowed two engine choices, and all use the same Dallara chassis. For quite some time, the choices have Chevrolet or Honda engines.

The idea underlying this concept is obviously leveling the field and controlling costs.
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I meant this to be a fun post as this is supposed to be a Corvette forum. It looks like the high brow Bif mentality is in play though.though.It can't be good with a Chevy logo on it.....lol. for those with that mentality....sell the Vette and get another Bimmer. I will have fun smoking you in my gold bow tie, or buy some Porsche logos and glue them on your Vette...it will be better then!
Just so you know, I traded my late 90's BMW on my first Corvette, a 2005 C6, hence the forum name. Then there was a 2008 Z51 followed by a 2008 Z06, and now what will probably be my last Corvette, a 2012 Grand sport vert. I still love corvettes. But there are many other good OEM's out there and I own one of them also. Nice thing about being a CAR guy, is the ability to open up and realize just how many great OEM's are out there. So, my Corvette probably wont get smoked by your Corvette unless it's a C7/C8 or a Z06 or other hi end Corvette, from the factory. Modded Corvettes don't count.
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No never heard of it.....duh. F1 is not the Greatest Spectacle in Motor Racing. Most F1 drivers would give their left nut to win Indy. In the old days of Indy many of the brands I mentioned showed up....even SCCA struggles to keep those brands participating.
Correct on all points!
The eletist Ferrari pound offs in their red pants can never seem to grasp any of this.
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What's going to be interesting is when the democrats mandate EV for all the only interesting part of the race will be which pit crew can swap out a 1500 pound battery pack the fastest 😆
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The IndyCar series has always been a "little different." For the last couple of decades the series has only allowed two engine choices, and all use the same Dallara chassis. For quite some time, the choices have Chevrolet or Honda engines.

The idea underlying this concept is obviously leveling the field and controlling costs.
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