3LT Dash Bubbling
05-26-2023, 01:12 PM
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And no, we don't live a leather lifestyle
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05-26-2023, 01:32 PM
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Foosh, actually my first choice is Rapid Blue, 2LT, Performance Exhuast. Interior: Natural leather, Stealth interior, Liner package. Exterior: splash guards, radiator screens, low profile spoiler/splitter, body color accents, battery protection. Wheels are up in the air until the '24 order guide is released. I am hoping for 5-spokes type, similar to those of the E-Ray's, become available.
I reallly like the contrast between the partial tan interior and the blue. Kind of a suttle, non-aggressive, happy colors combo.
I reallly like the contrast between the partial tan interior and the blue. Kind of a suttle, non-aggressive, happy colors combo.
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05-27-2023, 06:02 PM
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Point well taken.
I am gathering information for when my turn to place the order comes about I can make the best decision with good judgement and the least amount of risks. Because of my age I feel this will be my one, only, and likely last shot at getting a Corvette therefore I have to be sure and rely on people who know more about the C8 than I do, and by reading many threads so far I noticed there are not only plenty of knowledgeable members willing to help but very straight forward as well. All I can do in return is express my gratitude and hopefully be able help others by contributing when possible.
I am gathering information for when my turn to place the order comes about I can make the best decision with good judgement and the least amount of risks. Because of my age I feel this will be my one, only, and likely last shot at getting a Corvette therefore I have to be sure and rely on people who know more about the C8 than I do, and by reading many threads so far I noticed there are not only plenty of knowledgeable members willing to help but very straight forward as well. All I can do in return is express my gratitude and hopefully be able help others by contributing when possible.
05-27-2023, 07:03 PM
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The two-tone seats are not offered with the GT1 seats, it has to be with GT2 seats.
In addition, if one orders the GT2 seats on a 2LT Trim the only color combination that is offered is the Sky Cool Gray/Black, total additional cost is about $2,290.
For the Natural/Black color combination it has to be the 3LT Trim, totat additional cost is about $5,250.
In addition, if one orders the GT2 seats on a 2LT Trim the only color combination that is offered is the Sky Cool Gray/Black, total additional cost is about $2,290.
For the Natural/Black color combination it has to be the 3LT Trim, totat additional cost is about $5,250.
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...-price/summary
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05-27-2023, 11:14 PM
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I think you are mistaken.
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...-price/summary
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...-price/summary
I have made several different builds with different options on that website, which I have visited for months. The bottom line is I have not been able to build GT1 Two-tone seats on a 2LT or the optional GT2 Two-tone seats with the Natural/Black colors on a 2LT, when I select the 'Natural' color (with all 3 different options of the Natural versions) it actually switches my choice to Sky Cool Gray/Black not only for the seats but for the door panels, dash, and console as well. There is no issue if I select a 3LT Trim.
I went to the website after I read your post several times but it seems the website is down. I'll keep trying, I'll post the results if it turns out you are correct, hopefully so. I will extremely happy if I am mistaken.
05-28-2023, 12:03 AM
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A couple of people reported a 1LT or 2LT getting loose but near the number of 3LT's, not even close. The mystery is why GM hasn't taken care of this, C6, C7 and now C8 generations have the problem.
Also it's been reported that other brands have same problem, fine. Why hasn't GM taken care of this? I have purposely not bought a 3LT on my last 2 Corvettes because of this issue, I had it on a C6. Some say no problem just have it replaced under warranty; what about when there is no warranty?
It's been reported on Corvettes still in the showroom, my new C6 was that way when I bought it (ZR1), so I don't believe the cause is related to anything the dealer or owner does or does not do.
Also it's been reported that other brands have same problem, fine. Why hasn't GM taken care of this? I have purposely not bought a 3LT on my last 2 Corvettes because of this issue, I had it on a C6. Some say no problem just have it replaced under warranty; what about when there is no warranty?
It's been reported on Corvettes still in the showroom, my new C6 was that way when I bought it (ZR1), so I don't believe the cause is related to anything the dealer or owner does or does not do.
05-28-2023, 12:08 AM
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It was in a fairly recent thread on this same subject here; maybe this one, I don't know. I'm not going to look for it but there was one or two guys that reported it, It was the first time I'd heard of it too. Well, I did look:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-issues-2.html
post #32 and #38
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-issues-2.html
post #32 and #38
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06-02-2023, 12:18 PM
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Again, I agree the risk is there, but if you decide to purchase a C8, and the only color combo you are interested in is Arctic White with a Natural Dipped interior, you have to go with 3LT. The same is true of all "dipped" interior colors.
When my wife was researching what she wanted in a C8 HTC, it was that color combo or nothing. It is her car, she bought it, and it was that important to her. If it debonds, we'll get it fixed.
If you're fine with the traditional black dashboard or split colors, I agree there is no good reason to purchase the 3LT.
When my wife was researching what she wanted in a C8 HTC, it was that color combo or nothing. It is her car, she bought it, and it was that important to her. If it debonds, we'll get it fixed.
If you're fine with the traditional black dashboard or split colors, I agree there is no good reason to purchase the 3LT.
06-03-2023, 04:40 PM
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I have a 3LT and over a year into ownership, have not had the problem. Temperature doesn’t cause leather dashboards to delaminate. I might add that this problem is not limited to Corvettes or GM vehicles. It’s not something that happens often enough to enough vehicles so equipped to warrant anything being done besides repairing it if it happens to an owner’s vehicle.
Leather dashboards delaminate due to the adhesive failing and if you Google the term you will find numerous other car marques with leather dashboards experiencing the same issue.
Leather dashboard delamination tends to happen very early on if it is going to happen at all. It sucks when it does because we spend a pretty penny for these cars and for this option. We often expect perfection from a mass produced vehicle and that is never realistic.
Leather dashboards delaminate due to the adhesive failing and if you Google the term you will find numerous other car marques with leather dashboards experiencing the same issue.
Leather dashboard delamination tends to happen very early on if it is going to happen at all. It sucks when it does because we spend a pretty penny for these cars and for this option. We often expect perfection from a mass produced vehicle and that is never realistic.
My 3LT dash had the bubbling in under 2k miles, replaced under warranty. That was 3k miles ago and so far so good. The first dash clearly looked like little adhesive was used.
I'd get another 3LT in a heartbeat. It's under warranty, cost me nothing to fix, and the risk is 0. If they used enough adhesive it will last the life of the car, if not, it will bubble immediately and be covered by warranty,
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06-03-2023, 05:33 PM
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06-04-2023, 02:50 PM
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I had the dash bubbling issue also, 3LT with black HXO interior, both on the dash panel above the instrument cluster and on the upper left side of the passenger dash panel. My dealer replaced both panels under warranty.
The passenger side air bag also was replaced - evidently the original airbag cannot be reused after the passenger side dash panel is pulled off.
Normally I park in the garage, but last year we had extensive home renovations and my garage was filled with construction equipment/supplies. So, I parked in the driveway all spring and summer in the Florida heat. The issue occurred around the end of summer.
I first contacted my dealer about the issue in September. The dealer's initial response was that they would need to inspect the dash to determine whether any chemicals had been applied to the leather and, if so, it would not be covered under warranty - evidently chemicals applied to the leather contribute to the issue. I had used leather cleaner/conditioner on it, so I thought I might be in for a battle. My manual says to clean the leather with soap and water, but does not specify what type of soap to use. My position is that most people cleaning leather in an expensive car are going to use a cleaning agent specifically formulated for leather, and thus my leather was cleaned in accordance with the manual.
The dealer where I bought my car is about an hour a way, and a dealer closer to me did not want to deal with the issue since I bought the car elsewhere. So, I ended up kicking the can down the road until it was time for my next free oil change where I bought the car. I scheduled an appointment for the oil change and for the dash to be inspected. With me I brought a printout of the pertinent pages of the manual and the leather cleaner/conditioner I had used, prepared for battle over the warranty issue. To my pleasant surprise, the service advisor took one look at the dash and said it was covered under warranty, with no further questions asked. Moreover, they had the dash panels for my interior in stock. I did end up having to wait a couple of days for them to get a new airbag, though.
Between the time I first contacted the dealer and the time I took my car in for service, the dealer's position on covering the dash under warranty seems to have softened. Perhaps it is a known issue, and perhaps GM issued a service bulletin. I don't know. Anyway, I am glad to have it fixed, and glad that it went smoothly without any hassle other than having to leave the car overnight.
The passenger side air bag also was replaced - evidently the original airbag cannot be reused after the passenger side dash panel is pulled off.
Normally I park in the garage, but last year we had extensive home renovations and my garage was filled with construction equipment/supplies. So, I parked in the driveway all spring and summer in the Florida heat. The issue occurred around the end of summer.
I first contacted my dealer about the issue in September. The dealer's initial response was that they would need to inspect the dash to determine whether any chemicals had been applied to the leather and, if so, it would not be covered under warranty - evidently chemicals applied to the leather contribute to the issue. I had used leather cleaner/conditioner on it, so I thought I might be in for a battle. My manual says to clean the leather with soap and water, but does not specify what type of soap to use. My position is that most people cleaning leather in an expensive car are going to use a cleaning agent specifically formulated for leather, and thus my leather was cleaned in accordance with the manual.
The dealer where I bought my car is about an hour a way, and a dealer closer to me did not want to deal with the issue since I bought the car elsewhere. So, I ended up kicking the can down the road until it was time for my next free oil change where I bought the car. I scheduled an appointment for the oil change and for the dash to be inspected. With me I brought a printout of the pertinent pages of the manual and the leather cleaner/conditioner I had used, prepared for battle over the warranty issue. To my pleasant surprise, the service advisor took one look at the dash and said it was covered under warranty, with no further questions asked. Moreover, they had the dash panels for my interior in stock. I did end up having to wait a couple of days for them to get a new airbag, though.
Between the time I first contacted the dealer and the time I took my car in for service, the dealer's position on covering the dash under warranty seems to have softened. Perhaps it is a known issue, and perhaps GM issued a service bulletin. I don't know. Anyway, I am glad to have it fixed, and glad that it went smoothly without any hassle other than having to leave the car overnight.
06-04-2023, 06:26 PM
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I have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT and it has the leather dash and everything else leather. No problems and my SRT travels between Florida and PA homes so all kinds of weather variables. I have had problems with the SRT carbon fiber interior pieces coming unglued- I just Re-glue with gorilla glue. I ordered my C8 as a 2LT after seeing all these problems with the 3LT.
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06-04-2023, 07:19 PM
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I have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT and it has the leather dash and everything else leather. No problems and my SRT travels between Florida and PA homes so all kinds of weather variables. I have had problems with the SRT carbon fiber interior pieces coming unglued- I just Re-glue with gorilla glue. I ordered my C8 as a 2LT after seeing all these problems with the 3LT.
06-04-2023, 08:27 PM
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Mine was garaged when not used. Started bubbling about 6 months from warranty expiration. It is NOT and early failure. 3 pieces ordered plus the airbag. Took a month to come in and 1 day install,
My C7 started bubbling right after the expiration. Took the case to the zone office and was eventually fixed under warranty.
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My C7 started bubbling right after the expiration. Took the case to the zone office and was eventually fixed under warranty.
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06-05-2023, 05:26 PM
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That's just the material stretching it's no adhesive to hold it down. The right amount of adhesive will hold it down during the temperature swings
06-05-2023, 05:30 PM
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2) Not that I've heard of. If so it will get expensive for GM as I have the extended warranty and first bubbling started after 6 months.
06-05-2023, 10:14 PM
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I was selecting the first of 3 'Natural' choices, by selecting the second of the 3 'Natural' choices the two-tone combination is available on the 2LT or 3LT with GT2 seats only.
But it seems the '1LT' only accepts GT1 seats in Jet Black, & Sky Cool Gray or Competition Sport seats in In Jet Black. Also the GT2 seats, Two-Tone seats, or the 'Natural' color are not offered as options for the 1LT.
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