Bird67

So this (almost) happened yesterday. I was slowing to a stop at a T intersection when another driver cut the corner coming from my right. I caught it on my PDR. NOTHING HAPPENED. He missed me. You can hear a quick "chirp" of my tires when I stopped in time. (NOTE: you'll also hear I was listening to Unnamed Automotive Podcast at the time...). This is my first personal use of PDR to confirm what happened in traffic. Let's assume there was contact between our vehicles and fault had to be sorted based on this video. What do you think? Who would "win"?

Thankfully this was a non-event! I got lucky either way. NOTE: I trimmed the video so you'll only have to watch it for 30 seconds.

jimjimsC7

I'm surprised we didn't hear something like "you f'g dumbass!". Close for sure. I was sideswiped and knocked over like that several years ago on my motorcycle.

DaBlues

Was it a female?

WDWC8

I would say the car turning definitely took the turn too tightly and looks like they probably would have slightly crossed into your lane. However, from the video it also appears that you didn't come to a complete stop at the stop sign and before entering the crosswalk. No idea on who would win.

Vetteman Jack

Just my opinion, but if the car had hit you, I would say he would have been at fault for not properly making the turn. However, no telling what a lawyer could make from the incident.

feeder82

from the angle of the video it looked like you didn't stop before the cross walk, in that case your fault.

plmmd

in most states making a left turn makes you liable- though not fully stopped intersection that a moot issue

JDSKY

Interesting video. As has already been stated it does not look like you stopped prior to the cross walk. To be fair the driver in front you did not stop either and just rolled through. Any attorney worth their salt would advise you not to use the video in court.

undecided1965

Rolling stop....See it so often. This could go either way.

CP

That wasn't even close.

Amoreloba

ha ha women drivers bad!

Glad the jail bird is still intact. Stay safe out there, keep your stick on the ice.

Bird67

Other than the "women driver" crack (it was a dude FTW), I agree with the conflicting comments. The video does show that he cut the corner and does suggest a rolling stop. In truth the stop at that corner is just past the crosswalk...so good thing no impact.

NA Screamer

Negative, ghost rider. That stop sign is several feet before that crosswalk. You definitely rolled right through the stop sign and into the crosswalk. Its a good thing no pedestrians were around!

Greg00Coupe

Don’t think the crosswalk is an issue. There was no one in the cross walk so that is a non factor. He cut across you before you had a chance to make a full stop. He crossed solid lines. With that being said I’d guess the insurance company would argue shared fault, because that is what they do.

That situation is an issue with folks turning shaving the corners.

Rich Mickol

The point and place of impact would have been better for your case. The video, I’m not so sure. Thank goodness it was just a near miss.

Atlantan

I record every drive and here's an interesting story.

Downside of having a personalized plate on a bright yellow sports car is anyone can remember it easily and track you down. A plate investigator was able to provide the driver my phone number and Friday morning I received a random text message...

The driver texted me that my Vette was in front of his car, both cars making a left turn. After I made the left turn, his car made the left turn and was struck by a car who was allegedly running a red light resulting in totaling his car. Driver claimed that we had a left turn green arrow, lady who struck him claimed she had a green light, there were no witnesses or intersection footage. The driver asked if I had dash cam footage to validate his claim. I was able to send him a clip of my PDR footage which showed that when I made the left turn the arrow was not green, but the light was green with a yield on green sign. The PDR footage proved that the driver was at fault, he was hoping the PDR footage would prove otherwise. He was very appreciative of my help.

I will continue to record every drive.

ev1156

You might have had problem also as there was a stop sign which you didn't stop at.

jackfrostpdx

OP is a bad driver lucky enough not to be hit by a worse driver

Bird67

That is my take on it too. the contact point on the face of the earth alone is a favorable fact. Adding the video makes it look like a California stop before a right turn, just like the Porsche did. It wasn’t - it was to be a left turn, not a right - but it looks that way on the video. To make a left there you have to stop beyond the crosswalk in order to see if traffic was clear. The crosswalk itself is a non-issue - you have to stop for people in crosswalks, not for crosswalks. The Porsche in front had just gone through so obviously there was no one in the crosswalk.

As said already, SO glad this turned out the way it did.

DaBlues

With no fault insurance does it even matter. If a cop were present then it appears he could ticket the turning automobile for crossing his center yellow line making the turn early and he could ticket the vette for not coming to a complete stop. This was all explained in driver's training is it time for remediation?