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Old 09-30-2022, 12:51 PM
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What AFM defeat device is everyone using? I don't like the irregularity of sound as it goes up and back between 8 and 4.

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10-01-2022, 08:20 AM
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I barely notice the transition at all. I did notice a "judder" on the C7, but the system in the C8 is much refined. I like the system. On a long interstate road trip, why not save some fuel?
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As far as I know, there is not one for the C8. Some people are driving in manual shift mode, that disables V4 mode. Track mode does too, but I think that is impractical for street driving.

It doesn’t bother me, I don’t even hear it.
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16falcon is correct. The Range disabler doesn't work on the C8, and there aren't any other devices available. Driving in Z mode with the engine/transmission set to track will disable AFM while letting you set the other items to something other than track. Or manual mode.
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You can only defeat AFM by shifting in Manual Mode, putting the car in Track mode, or using Z-mode with engine/transmission set to track (as described above.
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I barely notice the transition at all. I did notice a "judder" on the C7, but the system in the C8 is much refined. I like the system. On a long interstate road trip, why not save some fuel?
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Seems like the C8 works better in the AFM transition than the C7, at least that is what is being reported.
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I've only had my 2023 HTC for a week, but I can hear it when AFM kicks in.
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My only concern with AFM is the difference in wear between the 2 sets of cylinders (AFM vs Non-AFM).
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Originally Posted by undecided1965
My only concern with AFM is the difference in wear between the 2 sets of cylinders (AFM vs Non-AFM).
The difference is negligible. The AFM traps combustion products in the AFM cylinders to act as springs. So the pressure in the AFM and non-AFM cylinders is similar. And AFM is only used at low throttle positions. It doesn't take much throttle to kick the engine out of AFM operation.
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^ Very true. A barely negligible throttle increase reverts back to V8 mode.

On the sound, I wonder if there are variations in cars. I've been listening for it, and haven't heard a peep.
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On my recent 2200+ mile trip I got as much as 31+mpg and the AFM system was not noticeable at all.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
^ Very true. A barely negligible throttle increase reverts back to V8 mode.

On the sound, I wonder if there are variations in cars. I've been listening for it, and haven't heard a peep.


I never noticed it in my C7 either. I am guilty of playing a lot of classic rock very loud on stereo systems I custom built for my cars back in the day. That might explain it.
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It was very noticeable on a C7 with a manual trans, but not so much with the automatic. On the C8, if it weren't for the indicator on the dash and the change in exhaust note which I can sometimes hear, I'd never know what mode it was in.
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I often mute the stereo, but have MyMode set at max loud on the exhaust, and I've never heard anything. I also use the paddles most of the time even in auto mode. However, I have tested a dozen or so times listening for it with exhaust quiet in Tour, and nada.
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Yeah AFM is great for highway MPG. 99% of my driving is not highway, and it cycles on and off quite a LOT. Yes I hear it switch, and yes the exhaust sound is different. While I appreciate the innovative feature, it detracts from my own experience. Track mode engine/trans is fine for defeating it, but it's far too eager to downshift with the slightest increase in throttle. And I don't want to paddle shift it all the time just to drive a v8 full time and not have hair trigger downshifts.

I hope Range comes up with something. I know this is a first-world problem, but c'mon.
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Unfortunately, I suspect the heavily encrypted electronic architecture in the C8 will lock out devices like the range.
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In a 1000mi road trip last week all I noticed was I could hear (what I presume) are the AFM valves when it switched to V4 mode. To me, it sounded like a sucking of air like I hear on my truck intake when I juice it. I only made the connection because I had a lot of time to figure it out. I don't notice any difference between V4 and V8, other than the whoosh sound when it goes into V4 mode. There is no lag coming out of V4 mode either.

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Drive it in tour and reap the mileage. I do not even notice the comings and goings of the 4 cyl mode. . My C7 had a shudder. especially when you hit a hill and it leaped into V8 mode. The C8 is great.
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There is some mention in this thread about Z mode in the track setting. Isn't Z mode its own mode and not dependent on the mode setting prior to hitting the Z mode button?
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Originally Posted by op z
There is some mention in this thread about Z mode in the track setting. Isn't Z mode its own mode and not dependent on the mode setting prior to hitting the Z mode button?
Z Mode is a programmable button on the left side of your steering wheel that allows you to custom mix a variety modes. You can program braking, suspension, exhaust, etc, to your liking. Simply press the button and you're there. To me, my definition of a "mode" is anything available by turning the rotary dial on the console. If you take that out of the equation then i guess you could consider it a mode.
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