An Observation... Water vs Waterless Washing
#1
Drifting
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An Observation... Water vs Waterless Washing
Mine is ceramic coated. For the most part during the too hot weather (as in the paint should be cool to the touch hot) I've been using Waterless Car Wash or Simply Ceramic Detailer to keep the car clean. (Corvette Rule # XX--Thou shalt not drive a dirty car).
Well, yesterday I got the real car wash and washed it with WATER. It makes a difference! The car shines brightly. I believe that some part of the difference is that all the little edges -as around the trunk lid, the doors, etc, get washed with soap instead of passed over by wiping off of the waterless or detailing spray.
Just an observation.
Well, yesterday I got the real car wash and washed it with WATER. It makes a difference! The car shines brightly. I believe that some part of the difference is that all the little edges -as around the trunk lid, the doors, etc, get washed with soap instead of passed over by wiping off of the waterless or detailing spray.
Just an observation.
#2
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Mine is ceramic coated. For the most part during the too hot weather (as in the paint should be cool to the touch hot) I've been using Waterless Car Wash or Simply Ceramic Detailer to keep the car clean. (Corvette Rule # XX--Thou shalt not drive a dirty car).
Well, yesterday I got the real car wash and washed it with WATER. It makes a difference! The car shines brightly. I believe that some part of the difference is that all the little edges -as around the trunk lid, the doors, etc, get washed with soap instead of passed over by wiping off of the waterless or detailing spray.
Just an observation.
Well, yesterday I got the real car wash and washed it with WATER. It makes a difference! The car shines brightly. I believe that some part of the difference is that all the little edges -as around the trunk lid, the doors, etc, get washed with soap instead of passed over by wiping off of the waterless or detailing spray.
Just an observation.
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MikeinAZ (09-17-2022)
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Mine is ceramic coated. For the most part during the too hot weather (as in the paint should be cool to the touch hot) I've been using Waterless Car Wash or Simply Ceramic Detailer to keep the car clean. (Corvette Rule # XX--Thou shalt not drive a dirty car).
Well, yesterday I got the real car wash and washed it with WATER. It makes a difference! The car shines brightly. I believe that some part of the difference is that all the little edges -as around the trunk lid, the doors, etc, get washed with soap instead of passed over by wiping off of the waterless or detailing spray.
Just an observation.
Well, yesterday I got the real car wash and washed it with WATER. It makes a difference! The car shines brightly. I believe that some part of the difference is that all the little edges -as around the trunk lid, the doors, etc, get washed with soap instead of passed over by wiping off of the waterless or detailing spray.
Just an observation.
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z51vett (09-17-2022)
#4
The detailer that I use occasionally says the water is your friend. It acts as a lubricant to separate dirt from the paint, and helps prevent scratching from dirt that's stuck either to the paint or your waterless wash applicator.
Agree with RKCRLR on rinseless wash. Quick, easy, and unless the car is really dirty what I normally do. In cold weather, I do it in the garage. No hose needed. Just lots of microfiber towels. Google "Gary Dean Method" if you want to learn more about it. (Some of his videos show him hosing the car down first, but that's optional. You can use a spray bottle to lubricate the paint a section at a time.)
Agree with RKCRLR on rinseless wash. Quick, easy, and unless the car is really dirty what I normally do. In cold weather, I do it in the garage. No hose needed. Just lots of microfiber towels. Google "Gary Dean Method" if you want to learn more about it. (Some of his videos show him hosing the car down first, but that's optional. You can use a spray bottle to lubricate the paint a section at a time.)
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RKCRLR (09-16-2022)
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My car never sees soap. I had it ceramic coated with C-quartz pro the first week of ownership. (21 months ago, daily driver). Every 2 weeks I hose it down with a pretty strong stream of water, then dry it with quality micro fiber towels and then hit any spots that need hitting with a touch of detail spray and micro fiber towel. That's it. My car shines and feels as it did 21 months ago. Also, never, and I mean never, wash your car in any sunlight.
#7
Check out this video from Pan the Organizer on youtube. I've watched many of his videos, he is a professional detailer in Canada, no nonsense, infomative, I've learned a ton of stuff watching his video's, learned more about detailing from him over a weekend than I've learned the last 20 years.
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#8
Drifting
As a newbie with a new C8, I'm looking at all the options for waterless washing as I have a dirt driveway, LOL
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My car never sees soap. I had it ceramic coated with C-quartz pro the first week of ownership. (21 months ago, daily driver). Every 2 weeks I hose it down with a pretty strong stream of water, then dry it with quality micro fiber towels and then hit any spots that need hitting with a touch of detail spray and micro fiber towel. That's it. My car shines and feels as it did 21 months ago. Also, never, and I mean never, wash your car in any sunlight.
why can’t you wash your car in sunlight? If using Ph neutral soap, what’s the problem?
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"...Waterless Washing"... an oxymoron for nearly all but dry-cleaning.
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#12
Racer
I wouldn't even consider washing the car without water and soap. Grind the dirt in with a towel and some detailer? You are scratching the paint surface regardless of what you think.
No thanks.
No thanks.
#13
Technically, there is such thing as a "waterless" wash product since they are all approximately 98% water.
#14
That's a neat video, but you will never see me run a cloth, sponge, or anything across the BOTTOM of a panel and then move to wiping down the top without first rinsing that sponge or cloth in my rinse bucket. I doubt anyone will ever convince me that that two bucket method isn't warranted.
#15
Pro
And if you are drying with a chamois or towel of ANY kind, you are scratching WAY MORE than any waterless wash/micro fiber towel! Heated air dryer only!!
And if you are going to use water, I would NEVER use a pressure washer (ever again--I used one for years until I wised up) to beat your paint and trim into submission. Pressure washers are for mud boggers and sand drag racers, NOT for cars usually need a light cleaning
#16
Drifting
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In the original post I didn't mention that I've been using a Foaming Sprayer. Not attached to a pressure washer, just a garden hose, then use the hose nozzle to rinse... No wiping except to dry with microfibre drying towels.
#17
A low pressure power washer (under 2K psi) is a great tool, and if you keep the nozzle at least 2-3 ft away from the surface, you're not power washing or doing anything different than a garden hose spray nozzle. You get quicker and better coverage and use 50-70% less water. That's important when using a spotless water system like I do. I use that method for "dusting" the car when it's not otherwise dirty. That's safer for paint than using detailer spray.
However, most of the time I use the rinseless wash method with microfiber towels soaked in a bucket with the mixture. I soak about 8 towels, and use a new one for every panel.
However, most of the time I use the rinseless wash method with microfiber towels soaked in a bucket with the mixture. I soak about 8 towels, and use a new one for every panel.
#18
Instructor
A low pressure power washer (under 2K psi) is a great tool, and if you keep the nozzle at least 2-3 ft away from the surface, you're not power washing or doing anything different than a garden hose spray nozzle. You get quicker and better coverage and use 50-70% less water. That's important when using a spotless water system like I do. I use that method for "dusting" the car when it's not otherwise dirty. That's safer for paint than using detailer spray.
However, most of the time I use the rinseless wash method with microfiber towels soaked in a bucket with the mixture. I soak about 8 towels, and use a new one for every panel.
However, most of the time I use the rinseless wash method with microfiber towels soaked in a bucket with the mixture. I soak about 8 towels, and use a new one for every panel.
#20
Same here. I use a duster and then Maguire's or Mothers detailer where the dust collects. Black car, so every 2 to maybe 3 weeks, I'll wash it with Maguire's wash and wax because you do get a film even if you keep it "dusted." Also use Maguire's wax and dry on top surfaces. Really makes the black metallic paint pop. Did a great job on my Torch Red '18, as well.