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Old 06-14-2022, 11:08 PM
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I keep constantly reading on this forum about broken cars, no parts available and dealers too busy to fix… Yet the factory has enough parts to keep cranking out a couple hundred cars a day. And of course no loaner cars. And everyone says how much they love there car anyway even if simple parts take months to get and there car sits on the the dealers lot. Maybe they need to slow down a bit and “Service what they sell”. We are going on the 4th year of production and no spare parts? No part #s and dealers that don’t seem very knowledgeable. Now my c8 has 1000k miles and it has been flawless other than the headlights but the service problems you guys are going through puts a cloud over it. I realize it is a very sexy car but I do wonder if it is going to be a good partner??

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06-14-2022, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by newcastlegreg
Now my c8 has 1000k miles
A million miles on that thing already? That's impressive.
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Originally Posted by newcastlegreg
Now my c8 has 1000k miles
A million miles on that thing already? That's impressive.
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Old 06-14-2022, 11:33 PM
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Keep in mind that every C8 owner isn’t on this forum. And by the nature of a forum your going to get more posts from owners who are experiencing issues with the car. I’m sure the vast majority of owners are not on this site and are enjoying their car issue free. Same concept goes for just about any car forum.
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Old 06-14-2022, 11:39 PM
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You're aware of the massive supply chain issues affecting almost every product sector, right?
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I just got my c8, so I am not necessarily impacted by this. With that said, "supply chain issues" aren't an acceptable answer if there are existing c8 owners dead in the water because parts are being allocated to new cars instead of allocated for warranty repairs. Again, I don't know for sure that is the case because I'm not in that situation, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me to hear that it was. I understand the economic motivation to sell a new car instead of fix one you've already sold, but let's not sit here and pretend there isn't a little "**** you" built into that decision. It would be absolutely ridiculous to begrudge someone the right to complain when they find themselves on the wrong side of that decision.
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You're aware of the massive supply chain issues affecting almost every product sector, right?
I do understand the supply issue problem. I still think they could do better. The poor guy driving around with no AC due to a bad compressor that was on backorder kinda got to me. To some of us this is an expensive car and it feels like they are cranking them out more than most cars because they are popular and profitable. This is new to me- I have always had simple Honda’s, Toyota’s and antique corvettes.
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Do I think GM is abusing us? Short answer: NO
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Old 06-15-2022, 12:16 AM
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It’s a sign of the times. Could of been avoided,……but we won’t go there.

When my time comes, I’m going to ask the Big Guy to spare me if I can return to Earth to be Earth Czar. Can’t wait to see what happens.
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Originally Posted by newcastlegreg
To some of us this is an expensive car and it feels like they are cranking them out more than most cars...
Wait, cranking them out more than most cars? Corvettes are and have always been produced in small numbers compared to most other vehicles. Not like Ferrari or Lamborghini small numbers, but small compared to most vehicles on the road. There have been about ~6,000 Corvettes produced in the first quarter of 2022. By comparison, 140,000 Ford F-150’s were produced in the same time period, 127,000 Ram Pickups, 119,000 Chevy Silverados, 102,000 Toyota RAV4’s and 75,000 Jeep Grand Cherokees. No way are Corvettes “cranked out more than most cars”.
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A majority of owners have zero issues like me. Most owners with complaints post here so thats why it seems like there are so many issues. All my Corvettes have no problems
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Originally Posted by newcastlegreg
I keep constantly reading on this forum about broken cars, no parts available and dealers too busy to fix… Yet the factory has enough parts to keep cranking out a couple hundred cars a day. And of course no loaner cars. And everyone says how much they love there car anyway even if simple parts take months to get and there car sits on the the dealers lot. Maybe they need to slow down a bit and “Service what they sell”. We are going on the 4th year of production and no spare parts? No part #s and dealers that don’t seem very knowledgeable. Now my c8 has 1000k miles and it has been flawless other than the headlights but the service problems you guys are going through puts a cloud over it. I realize it is a very sexy car but I do wonder if it is going to be a good partner??
Another whining and complaining thread. Your C8 has been flawless, be thankful as opposed to complaining.
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I understand that GM (and every other manufacturer) is going to prioritize production over general parts supply. That's where the revenue is, it's where the workers need to be kept working, and more. And I'm OK when people can't get parts for relatively minor problems like the headlight sensor replacement. But I agree with the OP that GM can, and should, do better when someone's car is out of service completely. That's a small number of cars, and GM should be able to fix those without severely impacting production.
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Corvette isn't the only car that has parts issues. How many Chevy Traxs do you think were built from 2015 to 2022? I took in on a trade a 2018 Trax that had damage to the hood. There is not one hood in any GM parts warehouse in the country. A friend of mine waited 4 months for a door for a 2021 Yukon. Our body shop has two rows of all makes sitting waiting for collision parts.
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I see your argument as an owner that they should prioritize spare parts. Understand as a prospective owner sitting on a list, I have a different opinion.
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Yes, when you read on the forum the complaints about transmissions, lights (my '22 had the light problem but fixed it myself), valve springs, and other issues, it does make me second guess buying the car. This is my 24th Vette and second C8, so I am a believer in the car but I will tell you if one of the big issues such as the transmission happens to me, I will get it fixed and sell the car. I do feel that by the third and forth model year these issues should have been addressed. My car is a fair weather ride so I don't drive it that much. Just under 800 miles in first 3 months but that is a lot for me. I love it, just took a trophy at a major Corvette show this weekend. but if something big were to occur, as I said, I'd fix it, sell it, and go back to a C2-3 generation. I hope what we are reading is the minority out there.
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I will agree that by now (4th year of production), some of the issues being reported should have been resolved. And yes, I do understand that supply issues are occurring, which impacts parts availability. But as said, being able to build cars while someone who has purchased a car has it sit idle due to a lack of parts is really not acceptable.
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I will agree that by now (4th year of production), some of the issues being reported should have been resolved. And yes, I do understand that supply issues are occurring, which impacts parts availability. But as said, being able to build cars while someone who has purchased a car has it sit idle due to a lack of parts is really not acceptable.
No manufacturer has 0 faults. Parts are going to fail, it's when they rise above a certain threshold of percent of cars that it's a "problem."

Keep in mind that every C8 owner isn’t on this forum. And by the nature of a forum your going to get more posts from owners who are experiencing issues with the car. I’m sure the vast majority of owners are not on this site and are enjoying their car issue free. Same concept goes for just about any car forum.
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A friend of mine works for the collision repair division of a large group of dealerships in the Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhoda Island area. The dealerships include (in alphabetical order); Buick, Chevrolet, Ford, Genesis, GMC, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Lexus, Mazda, Nissan, Subaru, Toyota and VW. Her role in the organization is parts ordering. She claims she can’t get parts for ANY brand they service, that all the parts are either “On Order”, “In Route” or just “Pending Availability”. Damaged cars are just piling up in the back lot waiting to be repaired once parts show up. So no, it’s not just GM.
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A friend of mine works for the collision repair division of a large group of dealerships in the Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhoda Island area. The dealerships include (in alphabetical order); Buick, Chevrolet, Ford, Genesis, GMC, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Lexus, Mazda, Nissan, Subaru, Toyota and VW. Her role in the organization is parts ordering. She claims she can’t get parts for ANY brand they service, that all the parts are either “On Order”, “In Route” or just “Pending Availability”. Damaged cars are just piling up in the back lot waiting to be repaired once parts show up. So no, it’s not just GM.
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