A dry garage floor is a false sense of security - DCT leak
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Reading reports of DCT problems is unnerving. Magic Glass isn't wrong - there is an apparent DCT issue, and it shouldn't be happening. Nor is Phil wrong - it's not realistic to expect that execution of a clean-sheet design by any manufacturer can be flawless. The litmus test is how the manufacturer responds to and addresses issues when they become apparent. GM's responsiveness can't be assessed fully because its response is so clearly hampered by supply chain issues.
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Phil - hope the oily residue is from a minor issue and can be quickly remedied by the dealer. If just a gasket replacement that would be great.
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@Phil1098 I may have overlooked it, but what's your mileage and have you changed the DCT filter since delivery? Just confirming that no one's had the sheer pan off since you looked a year ago.
So I kind of have an update. I stopped by the the dealer and there is no updated or superseded pan or gasket for the 2020 and first half of 2021 cars. I also verified they have changed the entire transmission case and there are more bolts on the new design pan so it won't fit the older versions like mine. Since mine is going into the garage for the winter very soon, I am not doing anything with it until at least spring. Maybe by then they will have a new design gasket for the older cars. My logic is, why would I replace the gasket with another identical gasket just to wait for it to leak too. In my mind, that's a strong possibility because Tremec has gone so far as to redesign the case and pan assembly, they wouldn't go through that expense for no reason. It isn't and never has hemorrhaged fluid, just kind off makes a mess so I have zero fear of driving the car. I posted this with pics for those that have a 2020 and an early 2021 so they could be aware and look for the possibility of this happening. I still love my car.
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Phil, did the dealer give you an approximated crossover point from old to new, build month wise? Mine was built the first week of July and if I can avoid jacking it up and pulling the shields just to get a look at the pan that would be great!
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They didn't, for the 2021 model year the parts screen just listed pan and gasket as "with reinforcement" or "without reinforcement" The reinforcement is on the old pan, kind of like the little steel plate they used to have on stamped steel valve covers to distribute the load of the bolt more evenly. You may be able to remove the drivers side rear wheel and get enough of a view to see if it is a steel pan (old) or a cast aluminum pan (new style). Would be a ton easier than removing over 30 bolts and two belly pans to see it.
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From autoblog today
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/11/01/...mission-leaks/ Very interesting read on the issue.
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Possibly to the surprise of some (me included) my local dealer has the pan gasket in stock, but as I said, since it's the old design I won't be having it replaced until spring. I look at it this way, I get a $500+ worth of new free DCT fluid when they do replace replace the pan gasket, that doesn't seem so bad.
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The mileage on my car is just shy of 4,400 miles. I have not changed the DCT filter (I have one in the box, but haven't opened it yet) or touched the DCT. I suspect this has been leaking from the start since I had the oily residue on the pan one year ago at 1,850 miles when I did the engine oil change prior to putting it away for the winter. It has not been to any shop or dealer since I have owned the car so no one has removed the shear plate (just me, twice now).
So I kind of have an update. I stopped by the the dealer and there is no updated or superseded pan or gasket for the 2020 and first half of 2021 cars. I also verified they have changed the entire transmission case and there are more bolts on the new design pan so it won't fit the older versions like mine. Since mine is going into the garage for the winter very soon, I am not doing anything with it until at least spring. Maybe by then they will have a new design gasket for the older cars. My logic is, why would I replace the gasket with another identical gasket just to wait for it to leak too. In my mind, that's a strong possibility because Tremec has gone so far as to redesign the case and pan assembly, they wouldn't go through that expense for no reason. It isn't and never has hemorrhaged fluid, just kind off makes a mess so I have zero fear of driving the car. I posted this with pics for those that have a 2020 and an early 2021 so they could be aware and look for the possibility of this happening. I still love my car.
So I kind of have an update. I stopped by the the dealer and there is no updated or superseded pan or gasket for the 2020 and first half of 2021 cars. I also verified they have changed the entire transmission case and there are more bolts on the new design pan so it won't fit the older versions like mine. Since mine is going into the garage for the winter very soon, I am not doing anything with it until at least spring. Maybe by then they will have a new design gasket for the older cars. My logic is, why would I replace the gasket with another identical gasket just to wait for it to leak too. In my mind, that's a strong possibility because Tremec has gone so far as to redesign the case and pan assembly, they wouldn't go through that expense for no reason. It isn't and never has hemorrhaged fluid, just kind off makes a mess so I have zero fear of driving the car. I posted this with pics for those that have a 2020 and an early 2021 so they could be aware and look for the possibility of this happening. I still love my car.
Sorry to hear of the problem. I may try to get a camera up in there. I have been thinking about getting one of those snake cameras that attaches to your phone. This may be a good excuse to get one.
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Perhaps the transmission is just weeping from being driven so little. Maybe you should drive it a lot more. It may still be weeping, but at least it would be tears of joy!
Sorry to hear of the problem. I may try to get a camera up in there. I have been thinking about getting one of those snake cameras that attaches to your phone. This may be a good excuse to get one.
Sorry to hear of the problem. I may try to get a camera up in there. I have been thinking about getting one of those snake cameras that attaches to your phone. This may be a good excuse to get one.
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So I kind of have an update. I stopped by the the dealer and there is no updated or superseded pan or gasket for the 2020 and first half of 2021 cars. I also verified they have changed the entire transmission case and there are more bolts on the new design pan so it won't fit the older versions like mine. Since mine is going into the garage for the winter very soon, I am not doing anything with it until at least spring. Maybe by then they will have a new design gasket for the older cars. My logic is, why would I replace the gasket with another identical gasket just to wait for it to leak too. In my mind, that's a strong possibility because Tremec has gone so far as to redesign the case and pan assembly, they wouldn't go through that expense for no reason. It isn't and never has hemorrhaged fluid, just kind off makes a mess so I have zero fear of driving the car. I posted this with pics for those that have a 2020 and an early 2021 so they could be aware and look for the possibility of this happening. I still love my car.
It will be interesting to see how GM addresses the issue in the future.
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https://www.autoblog.com/2021/11/01/...mission-leaks/ Very interesting read on the issue.
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ah, geez, that looks familiar...hope you can get it fixed, Phil
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I would have left the mess so there is plenty of evidence. Some mechanics can have a problem when there isn't a code or something slapping them in the face to tell them where the problem is.
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