2022 dealer allocation?
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But haven't they typically shared allocation information on the forum ?? And even with another dealer knowing somebody else got X number of allocations, what could they actually do with that information lol. All the sales and monthly allocations become public because I always see them in spreadsheets on this forum ...doesn't matter anyway I guess...I'll just check on MM's updated tracker Monday and see how many spots I moved.
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#22
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I suspect this new allocation system of Chevy's is attempting to level the playing field a bit between the smaller & larger dealerships due to all the customer backlash. Unfortunately, the majority of Corvette buyers never take the time, nor interest, to learn how the allocation process works.
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I suspect this new allocation system of Chevy's is attempting to level the playing field a bit between the smaller & larger dealerships due to all the customer backlash. Unfortunately, the majority of Corvette buyers never take the time, nor interest, to learn how the allocation process works.
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Fast Dawg (07-23-2021)
#24
The Big 2 or 3's sales of C5,C6. and C7 cemented somewhat of a monopoly crowding out small dealers. And the big players look like they're GAINING share not losing it.,
MacMulkin, Kerbeck, Criswell EARNED those allocations by selling a car during years when it wasn't that popular (latter years of each cycle)--so NOT saying they don't deserve these allocations. They DO.
But should C5,C6,C7 sales give them a huge competitive advantage for many many years ...and this is the significant point: on a new, more popular platform of Corvette products going forward?
I don't know the answer. I DO know the "problem".
MacMulkin, Kerbeck, Criswell EARNED those allocations by selling a car during years when it wasn't that popular (latter years of each cycle)--so NOT saying they don't deserve these allocations. They DO.
But should C5,C6,C7 sales give them a huge competitive advantage for many many years ...and this is the significant point: on a new, more popular platform of Corvette products going forward?
I don't know the answer. I DO know the "problem".
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#27
Le Mans Master
At this point I think you did the exact right thing. Had I done the same, I would have had a new C8 in my driveway over two months ago....
#28
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The Big 2 or 3's sales of C5,C6. and C7 cemented somewhat of a monopoly crowding out small dealers. And the big players look like they're GAINING share not losing it.,
MacMulkin, Kerbeck, Criswell EARNED those allocations by selling a car during years when it wasn't that popular (latter years of each cycle)--so NOT saying they don't deserve these allocations. They DO.
But should C5,C6,C7 sales give them a huge competitive advantage for many many years ...and this is the significant point: on a new, more popular platform of Corvette products going forward?
I don't know the answer. I DO know the "problem".
MacMulkin, Kerbeck, Criswell EARNED those allocations by selling a car during years when it wasn't that popular (latter years of each cycle)--so NOT saying they don't deserve these allocations. They DO.
But should C5,C6,C7 sales give them a huge competitive advantage for many many years ...and this is the significant point: on a new, more popular platform of Corvette products going forward?
I don't know the answer. I DO know the "problem".
#29
Melting Slicks
I'm at day 639 since I placed my deposit with a local dealer, emailed them to see if they got any allocations, supposedly I'm number 2 on their list now,we shall see. Started in 2019 at # 16 out of 20 potential allocations for that year.
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The Big 2 or 3's sales of C5,C6. and C7 cemented somewhat of a monopoly crowding out small dealers. And the big players look like they're GAINING share not losing it.,
MacMulkin, Kerbeck, Criswell EARNED those allocations by selling a car during years when it wasn't that popular (latter years of each cycle)--so NOT saying they don't deserve these allocations. They DO.
But should C5,C6,C7 sales give them a huge competitive advantage for many many years ...and this is the significant point: on a new, more popular platform of Corvette products going forward?
I don't know the answer. I DO know the "problem".
MacMulkin, Kerbeck, Criswell EARNED those allocations by selling a car during years when it wasn't that popular (latter years of each cycle)--so NOT saying they don't deserve these allocations. They DO.
But should C5,C6,C7 sales give them a huge competitive advantage for many many years ...and this is the significant point: on a new, more popular platform of Corvette products going forward?
I don't know the answer. I DO know the "problem".
Now GM is changing the allocation system to previous sales, and how many cars you have in stock or 3000 status and above. What this will do is all of the dealers who are asking over sticker the longer the car sits on their lot they don't earn a car back until it's reported sold. So a dealer who is selling at sticker gets the car in the faster they deliver and report the car sold to GM the faster they earn another one back.
#31
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So let me explain how the C8 allocations started. GM said we will base your allocations on the total number of Corvettes you sold from January 1st, 2016 to December 31st, 2019. Then we had a strike in 2019 that lasted 45 days. GM still has 800 2019 Corvettes to build so that delayed the start of C8 production. Then covid 19 hits and that took the plant down for over two months. So at this point, every dealer got their 2020 allocations cut by about 60%. The 2021 production started late and lost 6 weeks of production.
Now GM is changing the allocation system to previous sales, and how many cars you have in stock or 3000 status and above. What this will do is all of the dealers who are asking over sticker the longer the car sits on their lot they don't earn a car back until it's reported sold. So a dealer who is selling at sticker gets the car in the faster they deliver and report the car sold to GM the faster they earn another one back.
Now GM is changing the allocation system to previous sales, and how many cars you have in stock or 3000 status and above. What this will do is all of the dealers who are asking over sticker the longer the car sits on their lot they don't earn a car back until it's reported sold. So a dealer who is selling at sticker gets the car in the faster they deliver and report the car sold to GM the faster they earn another one back.
What you are saying makes perfect sense. I just don't understand how all these small dealers are receiving unexpected higher numbers of allocations during this first consensus of 2022, while the "Big 3" have had their allocations seemingly (and drastically) cut. Hell, MacMulkin Chevrolet, that usually gets 100 to 160 cars per month received a grand total of 27 allocations yesterday (and nobody moves these cars off the lot faster than MacMulkin). Maybe all these weird numbers actually have nothing to do with the change in allocation process? This whole thing is just too damned confusing...
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#32
So let me explain how the C8 allocations started. GM said we will base your allocations on the total number of Corvettes you sold from January 1st, 2016 to December 31st, 2019. Then we had a strike in 2019 that lasted 45 days. GM still has 800 2019 Corvettes to build so that delayed the start of C8 production. Then covid 19 hits and that took the plant down for over two months. So at this point, every dealer got their 2020 allocations cut by about 60%. The 2021 production started late and lost 6 weeks of production.
Now GM is changing the allocation system to previous sales, and how many cars you have in stock or 3000 status and above. What this will do is all of the dealers who are asking over sticker the longer the car sits on their lot they don't earn a car back until it's reported sold. So a dealer who is selling at sticker gets the car in the faster they deliver and report the car sold to GM the faster they earn another one back.
Now GM is changing the allocation system to previous sales, and how many cars you have in stock or 3000 status and above. What this will do is all of the dealers who are asking over sticker the longer the car sits on their lot they don't earn a car back until it's reported sold. So a dealer who is selling at sticker gets the car in the faster they deliver and report the car sold to GM the faster they earn another one back.
Which should mean once those are produced, their allocations go up, no?
I'm hoping it's just early model year jitters, and things normalize. Or GM is going to screw over many customers who have been waiting months at the Big 3 to pay MSPR by rewarding the smaller dealers who play games and jack up prices by letting them get more cars.
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#33
Melting Slicks
I just got back from Ciocca Corvette. Without giving me any numbers, they basically said their feeling is that the allocation for the first month of 2022 is essentially a "first month ramp up" allocation and not indicative of things to come. My take from the conversation is that the factory doesn't want to get into a situation where they over promise and under deliver. They want to make sure they have sufficient part supplies and everything is going smooth for the first month and then allocations will open up to the larger numbers as things progress going forward and if there is an issue, they won't have dealers clamoring for cars that they were over promised.
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#34
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Anyway, I learned a long time ago that you have a much higher likelihood of a bulls-eye throwing 4 darts vs. 1. Too bad it never occurred to me that the C8 game might well work the same way…
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#35
My dealership claims to not have to resubmit my order from a 21 to a 22. (I was going to make my changes now) They said the order is still in the system waiting to be picked up. Also claims that their allocations are tied to either a coupe or convertible. So I’m 2nd but if the allocation is a convertible I would leap the other person with my coupe. This is not what I have been reading, but it does me no good to argue. Have anyone else heard this???
#36
With such small production during this very small production period, I think there’s zero analytical value here.
#37
My dealership claims to not have to resubmit my order from a 21 to a 22. (I was going to make my changes now) They said the order is still in the system waiting to be picked up. Also claims that their allocations are tied to either a coupe or convertible. So I’m 2nd but if the allocation is a convertible I would leap the other person with my coupe. This is not what I have been reading, but it does me no good to argue. Have anyone else heard this???
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#38
That's crazy! I started with MM 12/3/20 and my TPW is 8/23/2021.
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#39
Safety Car
Another corvette site as of Jan 2021 it said for the year 2020
Kerbeck 866
MacMulkin 778
Les Stanford 321
Criswell 308.
Want to get the 2021 list. That way will get a better idea
Kerbeck 866
MacMulkin 778
Les Stanford 321
Criswell 308.
Want to get the 2021 list. That way will get a better idea
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[QUOTE=direct007;1603771094]I just got back from Ciocca Corvette. Without giving me any numbers, they basically said their feeling is that the allocation for the first month of 2022 is essentially a "first month ramp up" allocation and not indicative of things to come. .../QUOTE]
So obvious on the forum this morning, and through out the day, is a lot of worry which is based on a single allocation figure; that being MacMulkin's disappointing 27 ONLY allocations.
This first discouraging allocation news is not enough to formulate anything substantive as far as future numbers.
So obvious on the forum this morning, and through out the day, is a lot of worry which is based on a single allocation figure; that being MacMulkin's disappointing 27 ONLY allocations.
This first discouraging allocation news is not enough to formulate anything substantive as far as future numbers.