Magnetic Selective Ride Suspension
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Magnetic Selective Ride Suspension
Is the Magnetic Selective Ride Suspension necessary if I am not ordering a Z-51 and not tacking the car. Appreciate positive and negative feedback
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09-27-2021, 06:53 AM
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I have a non-Z51 with Mag Ride and love it. Not only do I feel the difference in drive modes driving in a spirited manner on secondary roads the wonderfully controlled ride on the "normal" roads is just super. It's more than the ability to change modes, it is the variable shock damping as you drive in the same mode all the time.
Generation IV MSRC (used on the C8) wheel accelerometers read the road up to 1,000 times per second, triggering changes in the magnetic charge within the fluid that can alter the damping rates of the shocks almost instantly.
- The inertial measurement unit provides more precise measurements of body motion, relative to the wheel, for more accurate readings under heavy braking, hard cornering and other driving conditions.
On crappy roads the FE1 feels fine. The C8 is just a great car. But with FE2 on the same road, the car just doesn’t transmit every bump to your body. It’s noticeably better. This is when I most notice it. You won’t notice this benefit on average or freshly paved roads.
When you take an on-ramp or exit ramp, the FE1 does a slight lateral jump on every grove between concrete sections. That jump is unsettling to your stomach if you’re pushing the car. Say for example slightly fast on the ramp, 10-20 mph posted speed. This jump makes your stomach drop each time. With FE2, I don’t notice any lateral translation of the car—even in tour. If you really want to stay planted, Sport provides an even better glued feeling. This difference is subjectively very noticeable and likely objectively measurable.
A similar thing happens on long stretches of highway with the concrete sections. Every second or two the vehicle hits another section. It can be quite monotonous. I’m sure you know the feeling. With FE2, these roads in Tour are tolerable as opposed to the FE1 ride which is annoying. No lateral translation, just a jolt to your spine every second which to me is like Chinese water torture.
FE2 is a must have for the value it provides. Don’t listen to the salesman at Kerbeck.
I know many of you won’t have the luxury of driving both before deciding. Here’s a way to test it out yourself: Go test drive two Tahoes at your Chevy dealer. One a Premier and the other an LS or LT. Take each on a crappy road or better yet a dirt road to see the benefits of MSRC. This dramatic difference will change your opinion forever. We did this before purchasing my wife’s 2016 Gen3 MSRC LTZ Tahoe (LTZ is now called Premier). The LT shocks (which they called ‘premium’ air shocks) about put my wife’s head through the roof on the dirt road at 45 MPH. I then test dove the LTZ with MRSC on the same road at 45 MPH and it was like riding in a caddy. Years later, I wouldn’t even test drive the LT when we bought our ‘21 Tahoe. We just bought the Premier because the MSRC is night and day better. And the Gen4 is way better than the Gen3. See Zmurgy’s full write up above. (Ever wonder why Ferrari bought this technology from GM?)
None of this is a “must have” or “necessary”. Plenty of folks buy their C8 Corvettes and keep them in their garage so they never see rain, the paint is flawless and low mileage for the next owner. If you’re going to daily drive your C8, (like I do) you won’t regret the tangible feel MRSC provides this luxury supercar.
I don’t always drive my C8, but when I do, I save the wave.
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Not necessary but desirable. You get a better selection of rides.
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I had Mag ride (MSRC) on my C5 and ordered it on both C8's. I use it and can tell the difference when selection tour vs sport. I enjoy the tour mode for most of my daily driving. I use Z Mode when I want to have a little more fun.
Per R Fellows instruction non-Mag ride setting on a non-Z51 is kinda like a mix between tour-sport, while Z51 non-Mag ride is sport setting on MSRC.
Get ready for the another volley of debates.
Those who never had it, or who only have a z51 will absolutely chime in. Why ?. because they can :>)
Per R Fellows instruction non-Mag ride setting on a non-Z51 is kinda like a mix between tour-sport, while Z51 non-Mag ride is sport setting on MSRC.
Get ready for the another volley of debates.
Those who never had it, or who only have a z51 will absolutely chime in. Why ?. because they can :>)
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^^^ And that is cool as long as the posts are opinions and not being rude or argumentative
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I have a non Z51 and will not be tracking the car. I got FE2 MSRC suspension and am very happy with the ability to adjust the ride. I can definitely feel the difference between the 3 suspension modes, Tour, Sport and Track. So can my wife, she prefers Tour. I like having the suspension option available when setting My mode (Tour) and Z mode (Sport). This is my first Corvette and my first car with an option for MSRC, I’m glad I checked that box.
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What anyone feels is "necessary" will vary based on what the person values/desires. Personally, I would not own a Corvette without Mag Ride. The ability to change the suspension in different driving situations (highway cruising, twisties, rough roads, etc.) is valuable to me.
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YMMV. I always experienced MSRC with Z51 (FE4)
Based on my experience, MSRC is very pronounced on C7 and C8 compared to generations before. I couldn't tell much with C5 and C6.
People who got MSRC, love it and won't go back to FE1 FE3.
Based on my experience, MSRC is very pronounced on C7 and C8 compared to generations before. I couldn't tell much with C5 and C6.
People who got MSRC, love it and won't go back to FE1 FE3.
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I have the same and completely concur. Super happy that I got it and you can really feel the difference between the modes. One option I might consider not getting is the front lift: without the front splitter the car seems to have enough ground clearance and I haven't used the lift much, BUT, I've only had the car for 300 miles so I suppose my opinion could change later. Won't change on the mag ride though.
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I wouldn't call it "necessary," but it is a nice feature and, in my opinion, worth the cost. Even without it, though, you will love the C8.
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I’ve had Mag Ride(MSRC) in my last three Vettes
AWESOME !!
Big thumbs up !!! JMHO ☝️👌👍🇺🇸
AWESOME !!
Big thumbs up !!! JMHO ☝️👌👍🇺🇸
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I had Mag ride (MSRC) on my C5 and ordered it on both C8's. I use it and can tell the difference when selection tour vs sport. I enjoy the tour mode for most of my daily driving. I use Z Mode when I want to have a little more fun.
Per R Fellows instruction non-Mag ride setting on a non-Z51 is kinda like a mix between tour-sport, while Z51 non-Mag ride is sport setting on MSRC.
Get ready for the another volley of debates.
Those who never had it, or who only have a z51 will absolutely chime in. Why ?. because they can :>
Per R Fellows instruction non-Mag ride setting on a non-Z51 is kinda like a mix between tour-sport, while Z51 non-Mag ride is sport setting on MSRC.
Get ready for the another volley of debates.
Those who never had it, or who only have a z51 will absolutely chime in. Why ?. because they can :>
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I have mag ride Z51 and don’t track the car. Absolutely love it. Daily drive in z mode set to all race but mag ride in sport. Spirited driving in cool weather use z mode but in warmer weather use race mode. Tires start working and car is slightly more compliant in the heat and full track works amazing. I change modes regularly when driving
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Nothing is "necessary," including the C8 itself.
The C8, base or Z51, rides well for a sports car, and handles better than most cars on the road, even without MSRC.
That said, I think MSRC is well worth the money. Not only does it allow you a softer ride on rough pavement, and a firmer ride with less body roll when driving in a spirited manner, but it adjusts the suspension up to 10 times per second, in real time, in response to the road and your driving inputs. And it can adjust each corner independently. This allows the car to absorb bumps by instantly softening the suspension when and where needed, then firming it right back up. It allows the tired to maintain better contact with the road, especially on bumpy pavement. On big wallows in the road, it can increase damping to keep the car from wallowing. When cornering hard, it can increase compression damping of the shocks on the outside to slow body roll, while increasing rebound damping on the inside to do the same.
My C8 is the first car I'v had with it, and I'm very impressed. Well worth the cost IMHO.
The C8, base or Z51, rides well for a sports car, and handles better than most cars on the road, even without MSRC.
That said, I think MSRC is well worth the money. Not only does it allow you a softer ride on rough pavement, and a firmer ride with less body roll when driving in a spirited manner, but it adjusts the suspension up to 10 times per second, in real time, in response to the road and your driving inputs. And it can adjust each corner independently. This allows the car to absorb bumps by instantly softening the suspension when and where needed, then firming it right back up. It allows the tired to maintain better contact with the road, especially on bumpy pavement. On big wallows in the road, it can increase damping to keep the car from wallowing. When cornering hard, it can increase compression damping of the shocks on the outside to slow body roll, while increasing rebound damping on the inside to do the same.
My C8 is the first car I'v had with it, and I'm very impressed. Well worth the cost IMHO.
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Generation IV MSRC (used on the C8) wheel accelerometers read the road up to 1,000 times per second, triggering changes in the magnetic charge within the fluid that can alter the damping rates of the shocks almost instantly.Gen IV Highlights include:
- New wheel hub accelerometers and an inertial measurement unit transmit and process changes in road conditions four times faster than the previous system, for more fluid and natural-feeling damping changes.
- The inertial measurement unit provides more precise measurements of body motion, relative to the wheel, for more accurate readings under heavy braking, hard cornering and other driving conditions.
- New secondary temperature maps enable engineers to compensate for changes in damper fluid temperature, which contributes to more consistent performance, especially during performance driving.
- New magnetic flux control creates a more consistent and more accurate transition between rebound and compression in the dampers, improving the system’s ability to sense and control vehicle body movement.
- A significant reduction in damper friction produces a near “no damping” effect that enables engineers to tune for more pronounced differences between drive modes.
- Upgrades to hardware and software improve transient body control to allow the vehicle to remain more level as it transitions between corners.
- A new magnetorheological fluid formula reduces friction within the damper that contributes to smoother overall damping.
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It's night and day really. I have FE4, PTM, yadda yadda. Amazing the difference between touring mode and sport/track.
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Since this entire car purchase wasn't 'necessary', but 'desirable', that's how I chose the options on my C8. If I wanted them, I picked them; necessary or not. Pick the options you want; I think you'll be happier that way.
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