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Old 02-28-2021, 09:16 AM
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I chose "neutral", simply because I don't have enough time in the vehicle to have formed an opinion on their functionality. From a purely aesthetic view, I'm not in love with the design, as it reminds me too much of the C4 "star wars" design of the 80's, which I thought was "cool" then, but today feels (and is) completely outdated. Although, to be fair, in another 15 years or so, any vehicle without the digital displays is going to likely evoke the same "outdated" reaction. Like others, I am a fan of physical buttons so I can feel rather than look in order to accomplish the desired function. If they actually do redesign the center stack, I'd like to see them do something really crazy, like put the passenger functions in the door area by the window switches, and then lower the upper part of the wall and reduce the long line of the switches. Or, as others have mentioned, at least a dual row for driver/passenger functions, down low and flat. To me, that would make them available to the passenger too.

But, I'm sure i'll be a very happy camper with the design as it exists today. I figure by the time it feels outdated, I won't have to worry about it...
Old 02-28-2021, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DSOMrulz
Have you actually ridden in a C8? I've been in both the passenger and driver's seats, and don't feel the least bit "walled off" from the other seat. Unless you're only 3 feet tall, the "wall" simply isn't in the way of anything.
that begs another question. Have you ever sat in the passenger seat? I’ve owned the car a month now and never have.
Old 02-28-2021, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by plmmd
that begs another question. Have you ever sat in the passenger seat? I’ve owned the car a month now and never have.
I rode home in the passenger seat when the car was picked up, I let my wife drive it home when new.
Old 02-28-2021, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JTBogus
Do you have a C8? Have you spent a bunch of time in the car?
I had a C7 and the "wall" was similar height and shape. C7 wall had the opening hand-hole that in my teen years of the 60's we called "chicken bars" on vettes and GTO's alike.
Old 02-28-2021, 11:15 AM
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Bad poll. The choices are two "likes", one "neutral", and one "hate". It should be "like", "dislike", and "neutral", and then we can get a fair assessment.
Old 02-28-2021, 11:19 AM
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All it needs is to be lowered about 2 inches, you would have the same basic look without it looking like the Mexican border wall.
Old 02-28-2021, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by michael510
There are a lot of us that still want physical buttons for the things we use on a regular basis. I find it annoying as hell to have to dig through a touch screen to do something as routine as turning on the heated seats.
I agree, if you have to "dig through", then it's not a better solution. However, to me, that speaks more to a poor UI/UX design than the technology platform itself. I own a Tesla and its responsive touch screen and brilliant UI/UX makes this a breeze. My C7 touch screen always leaves me frustrated, having to almost alway press twice along with its small size and poor UI/UX. Funny thing, I purchased my C7 and Tesla the same year.

For the record, I do understand the desire for certain physical buttons.

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Old 02-28-2021, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicGlass
All it needs is to be lowered about 2 inches, you would have the same basic look without it looking like the Mexican border wall.
Nothing wrong with the border wall, well except it's way too dam short

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Old 02-28-2021, 02:00 PM
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Lots of things to control. Lets the passenger play with their side! Frankly 98+% of the time I'm the only person in the car and like my two C7's seldom touch temp etc, it's set on sync. The seat heat/cooling control would be nicer on the steering like the steering wheel heat. If they go to an all torch screen control hope those functions have button s on the wheel. Love Z-Mode there as that is where I drive 95% of the time.
Old 02-28-2021, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicGlass
All it needs is to be lowered about 2 inches, you would have the same basic look without it looking like the Mexican border wall.
lol....agree. Height seems unnecessary, so lowering would certainly be an option.....unless there's a reason why it can't be.
Old 03-01-2021, 01:32 AM
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It’s a bad design in my view. The problem begins with the infotainment screen’s poor accessibility to the passenger. Then comes the divider to thwart any sense of intimacy between driver and passenger. It’s also intrusive to the passenger’s space while affording no means of gripping it for stabilization.

To me, “driver centric” means the driver can focus on driving while the passenger fusses with the infotainment. It also means the driver can enjoy oral pleasure from time to time, yet the Great Wall forbids it.

None of this is to say it’s a dealbreaker or that I hate it, though I’ll bet the engineers who rode shotgun on the ‘Ring had some choice words about the lack of grab handles!
Old 03-01-2021, 04:46 AM
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I don’t have my car yet but I am a big fan of buttons over touch screen. You have to be very accurate with the vertical screen, which is bouncing constantly but with the buttons you can hover, touch and glance for confirmation before actuating the control. It’s much easier. I like the wall because it makes it harder for my fat wife to punch me.
Old 03-01-2021, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Unphased
lol....agree. Height seems unnecessary, so lowering would certainly be an option.....unless there's a reason why it can't be.
Well yes we don’t know what’s under there. I’m guessing it’s not really a design intention but a design necessity because of the Battery compartment
below.
Old 03-01-2021, 09:47 AM
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I’m in for touch screen. IMO buttons are going away and infotainment center touch screen. The screen can be enlarged and center console flattened. Touch screen can be multiple panes like in my daughter’s Tesla and everything is right there! Bigger screen also means better play back videos. Flattened center console opens up room for a manual “dear I say” 😆
Old 03-01-2021, 10:35 AM
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IMO, the interior design is a fail between the driver and passenger tubs, the button wall, and the 1960 Plymouth Fury steering wheel. GM should have copied 911 or Cayman designs.
Old 03-01-2021, 12:53 PM
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I voted hate it, but thats a pretty strong word for it. I would be happy if they were flat, I don't care about being in a long strip. I'd also like the screen moved over to center between the driver and passenger. Ideally they could have made it swing/tilt to face whoever is using it instead of just assuming its always the driver.

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Old 03-01-2021, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SingleTrackMinded
Thank goodness for auto-climate control.
I find that even with auto I still need to change settings. I'm not always satisfied with the fan speed the car chooses, and sometimes want the temperature set higher or lower, not always the same.

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Old 03-01-2021, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by plmmd
that begs another question. Have you ever sat in the passenger seat? I’ve owned the car a month now and never have.
I've both ridden in the passenger seat of another owner's C8, and driven that car before I ordered mine. I also sat in the passenger seat of the C8s they had on display at Carlisle and the NCM anniversary in 2019.
Old 03-01-2021, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicGlass
All it needs is to be lowered about 2 inches, you would have the same basic look without it looking like the Mexican border wall.
Originally Posted by Unphased
lol....agree. Height seems unnecessary, so lowering would certainly be an option.....unless there's a reason why it can't be.
The lower it is the further your eyes are from the road when you have to look for a button.
Old 03-01-2021, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by alamike
IMO, the interior design is a fail between the driver and passenger tubs, the button wall, and the 1960 Plymouth Fury steering wheel. GM should have copied 911 or Cayman designs.
Uggh. Porches have about the most boring interiors going. And display less information to the driver unless you switch between multiple display modes repeatedly. Terrible desings.

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