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I completely agree.
Id gladly take the integrated intake design of the later clay C8 I posted, or the earlier clay model you posted, then the current base C8.
The C8 design got progressively worse from the clay models, until production.
I agree that early image looks better. And despite the success of the C8, there are a lot of people who find problems with it's appearance in one spot or another. Both things can be true at the same time.
However, the early mock ups are before engineering, cost, packaging and regulatory concerns are all addressed. All of those things impacted the car and we now have the C8. Can GM change it? Of course they can. Will they? Hmmm, not too likely. Subtle changes will likely happen but as others have stated, there isn't any financial impetus for making a change this early in the lifecycle with sales going very well. Now, since they invested so much money in this platform it is possible they will keep the C8 for a long time and have a mid cycle refresh in 4 or 5 years to reignite base model sales without moving to the C9 right away.
You say that now about the car you own.
But, if the ZO6 returned to the original design without that tacked on plastic scoops,
I guarantee that no one would be calling for the black plastic to be added to the ZO6.
I'd bet my very life on that.
I prefer the contrast and do not like the body painted option. The monotone, to my eye, is way too understated. As is the prototype that you posted. I believe contrasting trim adds to the aggressive appearance of the C8 and it will greatly add definition to the wide body performance models.
I agree with the use of a McLaren GT as a design comparative mostly because it is very elegant. The rear of the McL GT is also a big design win IMHO.
A year ago, I would have sided with the OP no questions, but the "boomerangs" have grown on me and as been stated, I have a feeling in 3D and in person versus pictures, they may actually resolve better. Maybe a case were time is on the side of edgy versus elegance. I feel the same way about the C7 Z06 design...initially on pictures it was a tack on disappointment but now in person...it's WoW! Great compromise "tack on/elegance".
More worthless, negative, obtuse posts that ignores history and facts.
This guy’s been here a month, starts trolling immediately, and starts a thread yesterday in which he is the main character re-arguing the same point over and over in a different way. 22 posts in his own thread in one day. Looks like he went to bed early so expect more of his cameo today. His MO is calling other people’s posts: WORTHLESS. NEGATIVE. OBTUSE. OK. 😂
As to the original point of your brilliant, positive and spot on post, I respect your opinion. I disagree.
Oh and he’s edited 8 of his 22 posts on this thread. Shoot first. Aim later.
Since you have only 2 likes on your OP out of 2500 views, maybe that should tell you something about your demand that General Motors MUST return to its original design.
Every design is going to have components to it that some will like and some will not. Sometimes the design has to give a little in aesthetics to follow engineering. The sum of all the parts in the final product is what really counts. While there are some things in the clay design that can be seen by some as better, they are obviously seen by others as not. It's subjective. The market will decide whether the design is a success or failure.
If the sum of the final design is unappealing to you, you have some options:
1) Move on and get something else
2) Wait for the next design
3) Get the car and have custom parts made.
4) Send your resume to GM and shoot for the Chief of Design job.
Considering that the first two years of production are already pretty much sold out, I would guess that GM sees this design as a success and is going to stick with it for at least a few years. What they do with the Z06 et al remains to be seen.
The only thing this thread is missing is Shaka posting his dozen or so sketches/photoshops we usually see when C8 design gets discussed.
You mean the sketches he posts to try to infer he knows what he is talking about without adding any context or information to describe why he even posted a pic, lol? Those are great. Almost as good as the guy who posts the same pics of his "BB hotrod" or the route he takes through his neighborhood, lol.
I prefer the contrast and do not like the body painted option. The monotone, to my eye, is way too understated. As is the prototype that you posted. I believe contrasting trim adds to the aggressive appearance of the C8 and it will greatly add definition to the wide body performance models.
I like the contrast as well. For example, I’d take 1 of these $2 MM Senna’s which the OP hates.
without the bloated front end that negatively affects both the visibility and sleek taut design
Notice how the front end gets bloated, decreasing front visibility, and the original sleek, taut front end.
This must be based on your real world experience in owning and driving a C8, oh wait, yeah you don't have one and are guessing and making **** up. So since you currently can't see the front end of the C8 while driving, will your design choice provide more than nothing of a visibility improvement? There's a new troll born every minute.
These boomerangs and “tacked on” scoops are rather silly looking but not a deal breaker for most people. It looks acceptable now but the question is, will it stand the test of time. I think, and this is just my opinion, it will not stand the test of time. This car will look dated in 5 years and very dated in ten. Remember the Aztec?
The Aztec concept looked great; the production version not so much as they adapted the concept to the actual platform it was built on. As others have mentioned, a lot in a design changes as concept meets reality, and a show car always can look better than a production version where the cooling system actually works, the lights are positioned at a legal height above the road, bumpers meet impact requirements, there's room for luggage, etc., etc.
If I were ordering a C8 I likely would spring for the body color scoops or get a darker color where they stand out less.
It will be interesting to see what C9 will look like. I would assume that it will be a refinement of C8 in the way that C7 was a refinement of C6 and C5 in many ways.
I do tend to agree that C8 is going to look dated; if I remember correctly at least some of the design was done years ago, but C7 was interposed as a less radical upgrade.
I like the contrast as well. For example, I’d take 1 of these $2 MM Senna’s which the OP hates.
You can have every one of those mega dollar abortions. I'm sure they are shining stars on road courses but what a ridiculous looking vehicle for street use. Looks like something out of a Speed Racer cartoon. YUK.
You can have every one of those mega dollar abortions. I'm sure they are shining stars on road courses but what a ridiculous looking vehicle for street use. Looks like something out of a Speed Racer cartoon. YUK.
Hey! Hey! Don't go bagging on Speed Racer like that. The Mach V is a good looking car compared to that. Maybe one of those villain cars. But they were meant to look villainous, not good looking.
You can have every one of those mega dollar abortions. I'm sure they are shining stars on road courses but what a ridiculous looking vehicle for street use. Looks like something out of a Speed Racer cartoon. YUK.
You're vacillating again Punky, tell us what you really think!
01-05-2021, 12:39 AM
There's a new troll born every minute.
