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Old 12-06-2020, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by international blue
Interesting post. It's not about attaining a C8, its about getting one cheap for a set price. By 2023 you may be ok, but why not catch it sooner by putting the money into a set of stocks to get a boost?

I can say that today even mentioning $50,000USD "in cash" is a very weak offer, and may not make the leap. The "comps" of a car are important. A Ferrari 360 is the nearest price to what the C8 configuration is, and thats a higher priced car. I believe the floor of the C8 will not be similar to the C5/C6/C7 which are all pretty similar. (If you dont believe me, try a C7 car cover on a C5 or C6...) The C8 is a different car and has a huge following that is diifferent from prior cars. GM is estimating 190,000 new very interested buyers. As a guy who only bought used Corvettes, I will not wait for the used market and feel that the new price isn't much different than the used cars...Besides, I want to buy just one NEW Corvette for me in my life...

Why not get on the list at McMulkin and finance the additional money next year and take a 10 percent lift in the market or other investment plan?
the money I have set aside actually is the winnings from my investments this year in Bitcoin and stocks, I am done investing for the time being. Markets are overbought. Probably could make another 10% but it痴 worth the risk of losing 30% in a downturn. I have enough time and money and a stable job to wait out the market 12-18 months for a nice entry point again and to get my C8. If there is a double dip recession like some have said in here I certainly will be all in again. But if there isn稚, I値l lease something nice until the C8s hit my price goal. For me, spending $50,000 on a car is as much as I壇 ever feel comfortable doing anyways. These are toys. And as some in here seem to think to the contrary... they are still a depreciating asset. I値l wait the market out on these as I did the last 3 years waiting for a correction in the stock market. I hate to let money sit idle, but it痴 just not worth the risk anymore with how high priced everything is. Looking a graph of Tesla and Apple makes one think of how Bitcoin looked in 2017/2018. Hell, looking at the Bitcoin price action scares me lol Buy low and sell high.
Old 12-06-2020, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by michael510
I think the reason the C7 are in short demand is that there were not 40k C8's built. I would imagine that if the 2020 model year had gone as planned, we would see a lot more C7 on lots.
I agree ... that, and the C7's were close to front-engine Corvette perfection - their dimensions looked right. I am still struggling with the posterior of the C8.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Mark ups end when supply and demand reach equilibrium. Economics 101.

Best guess is that's not likely to happen for another year, but supply may continue to be a problem due to the pandemic. On the other hand, we're in danger of entering a deep recession for the same reason, which would suppress demand.

Thus, there are a lot of variables that are impossible to predict.
Yea you could say that about life in general.
Don't worry OP all mass production cars devalue eventually.
Hang in there.
Good luck
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Old 12-06-2020, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by forg0tmypen
...I also don稚 know if that deal is legit or not I値l find out today or tomorrow
It's not.
Old 12-06-2020, 07:13 PM
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Simple, when supply catches up with demand. Duh.
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Old 12-06-2020, 08:33 PM
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Let us know about that deal.....who knows? What if covi shuts down the plant again? Too many variables. I see totaled c8s selling in the 30s if not more. So to get a good used one for 50.....someday...

Just got to decide what’s important to you.

I had a 16z I sold over a year ago. I glance at those prices....they have gone up substantially.....and I did not wait a year to get that car.

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Old 12-06-2020, 09:09 PM
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Maybe Winter 2022 (two years from now)...maybe a 1LT Coupe, non Z51. Before than, C8 production needs to catch up with demand, and a higher end model needs to reach the market encouraging early adopters to trade up in droves.

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Originally Posted by Big Lebowski
Maybe Winter 2022 (two years from now)...maybe a 1LT Coupe, non Z51. Before than, C8 production needs to catch up with demand, and a higher end model needs to reach the market encouraging early adopters to trade up in droves.
I know it痴 apples to oranges, but a 2019 Z51 can be had for $50,000 in the 20-30,000 miles range. MSRP between the two is similar. I知 optimistic supply will catch up this time next year and if what 2019s are selling for now in COVID world is any indication I should be behind the wheel sooner than later, especially with 2021 models not going up in price.
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When the C8 warble thread opens up. That’s when the prices will be reasonable.
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Originally Posted by CP
Why are people so hung up on the term "MSRP". For cripes sake, it's just a number made up by some nameless accountant at GM. They just as easily could have been 25 or 30k higher and no one would have batted an eye.
The low price of the 1LT is as much a marketing tool as anything else.

That said, I bought a new 1LT C7 at a very advantageous price 3 1/2 years ago. Only option: automatic transmission. The driving experience is pretty much the same regardless of bells and whistles, and one doesn't need those extra features in a car being driven weekends and evenings.

Old 12-06-2020, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by forg0tmypen
I don稚 follow you here? I have a budget, a pretty generous one, all cash, and I plan to buy used, my timeframe is years. I知 not understanding your reply
You should (have) order/ed a new one. MSRP. That's what I'd do, anyway....
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When I picked up my car my wife asked me how much I got off the price... I told her that I paid List Price... She said... so you didn't get a discount ?... I told her that I actually did because some people are paying way over list for used examples right now...

As far as $50k used... I think demand will increase once people start seeing more of these cars out on the road so don't hold your breath unless you can live with a salvage title 1LT..
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It ends when the initial rush is satisfied & the dealers have new Corvettes on the lot that they ordered for stock
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Originally Posted by EasyLivin
When I picked up my car my wife asked me how much I got off the price... I told her that I paid List Price... She said... so you didn't get a discount ?... I told her that I actually did because some people are paying way over list for used examples right now...

As far as $50k used... I think demand will increase once people start seeing more of these cars out on the road so don't hold your breath unless you can live with a salvage title 1LT..
Supply will also increase as well as the luster of this being the newest best thing will fade as others have said. If I was a gambling man I壇 take this bet
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Originally Posted by EasyLivin
When I picked up my car my wife asked me how much I got off the price... I told her that I paid List Price... She said... so you didn't get a discount ?... I told her that I actually did because some people are paying way over list for used examples right now...

As far as $50k used... I think demand will increase once people start seeing more of these cars out on the road so don't hold your breath unless you can live with a salvage title 1LT..

Better hold on to her if she let you off with that.....!
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Anyone know if 2021 is close to being sold out considering that 20,000+ 2020 orders got pushed to 2021 ?
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Originally Posted by forg0tmypen
Supply will also increase as well as the luster of this being the newest best thing will fade as others have said. If I was a gambling man I壇 take this bet
You already have taken the bet if you want a decent C8 for $50k...

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Old 12-07-2020, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by forg0tmypen
so a car that starts at an msrp of $59,000... won’t be selling in the $50,000 range for another 2 years? I hope you’re wrong there LOL
MANUAL, low mile 2014 C7's are still in the mid to high $40K range right now...

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Originally Posted by jimmyb
MANUAL, low mile 2014 C7's are still in the mid to high $40K range right now...
Also, based on the 2020 numbers, not very many pure base 1LTs were sold...so it isn't a 59K car going for 50K...it will be to be a 70k or 75K car going for 50K. maybe that happens...but within 2 years? that seems optimistic, unless it has a ton of miles or some other issues.
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Originally Posted by forg0tmypen
I’m in the market for a C8. I would love to own one used. I have se aside $50,000 to buy one used. I remember about 3 model years in the C7 generation was about when they were selling for that price used, but with decent options. I’m wondering if that’ll be about the same time frame for the C8? I really hope I can find one late next year for $50,000, I’m willing to buy one with 20-30,000 miles. I just want this car and that is the most I’m willing to spend. My question is when does this mania of these selling for $25k over msrp end?!
All the flipping ended around 4 months ago. Still plenty up for sale with marked up prices but they are NOT selling! Even the ones marked up for sale are inching down to MSRP. MSRP is still too high considering they are all used cars. Don't believe the hype. A few well spent minutes on https://www.autotrader.com/ will give you all the info you need.

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