Better to Repair or Replace this Panel?
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If they do repair it, make sure you understand in detail what materials and methods they would be using, beforehand. SMC repairs require different materials and methods than traditional fiberglass (what many body shops don't realize). You can research online the proper materials and methods for SMC repairs.
The car was shipped to the dealer (who has been invoiced) but the dealer did not accept "delivery" from GM since the problem was caught during PDI.
The car was sent to an authorized GM repair facility. The repair is being handled between GM and the repair facility. My dealer asked but did not get details of the repair.
I have the option of accepting or rejecting the car once the repair is completed and the dealer accepts delivery.
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Warp Ten (12-10-2020)
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If they do repair it, make sure you understand in detail what materials and methods they would be using, beforehand. SMC repairs require different materials and methods than traditional fiberglass (what many body shops don't realize). You can research online the proper materials and methods for SMC repairs.
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vetteman41960 (12-05-2020)
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Exactly. Let the body shop fix it...
Exactly. Let the body shop fix it...
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GM has very detailed, specific requirements, wire selection, welding speed, cooling between weld passes etc. They have specific procedures for the joints they authorize for repair. I visited one with the required special area and saw the other joining methods they were trained on including Flow Drill Screws, Adhesive Bonding etc. Their certified repair technician is trained in all these techniques and the proper repair procedures for body panes!
In our area there are only one authorized. The manager of a very good body shop that works on Vettes told me they will not become certified as there is not enough business to justify the special enclosed area dedicated just for the repair of aluminum. They said for frame repair they would go to the one large certified dealer in town then take the car back for body and paint.
That was the dealer body shop manager I visited and discussed their special pulsed MIG welder, special frame straightening machine etc. That shop were certified by Mecedes. GM and others accepted that training and equipment passed and to certified them as well.
Bottom Line a Certified Shop will do a good job. the OP can look at what was done and evaluate the paint, which should look like a new part.
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you will allways know your new car has been wreaked.i am walking get in line for a 21.
when i picked up mine if it had no high wing i was walking.
when i picked up mine if it had no high wing i was walking.
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I would wait and get a new corvette, even though I will have to wait. I'm not sure if the car belongs to GM or you. If the car belongs to you, are you stuck with it? If it belongs to GM, I would go over the entire car with a fine tooth comb on a lift/ inside Etc.. Have them fix the car to your satisfaction not theirs!!!! You're paying money, if it's free it is a different story. Since the paint is so new, If any body work is done and it's paint by someone other than the corvette factory plant make sure you go over it with a color match light. The light will show you what the naked eye cannot see, like night and day. You basically want to make the colors match. Cheap onehttps://www.harborfreight.com/professional-rechargeable-color-match-light-56354.html
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Considering the location I would say get it repaired, it is not a structural piece when it's a thin panel of SMC. They can paint it to the shadow line so only new paint is underneath where 3 months from now a bunch of rock chips will reside. No car is perfect, I have found flaws in mine because it's just a mass produced car. I can find a flaw in absolutely any car if I live with it.
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Considering the location I would say get it repaired, it is not a structural piece when it's a thin panel of SMC. They can paint it to the shadow line so only new paint is underneath where 3 months from now a bunch of rock chips will reside. No car is perfect, I have found flaws in mine because it's just a mass produced car. I can find a flaw in absolutely any car if I live with it.
I agree with you, where the defect is located he will get dings and marks just from driving. Also agree they can paint and blend on the bottom so you won't be able to tell. Yep cars get marks from driving!
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We all know your pro-dealership stance because you own one, but nice try. Due diligence should ALWAYS be performed by the consumer.
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I'm sorry! I sometimes forget there are a very small group of people who know everything and are charged with the responsibility to teach the rest of us how to do our jobs.
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My C6 suffered rocker damage from a parking lot accident. The rear quarter was replaced but the rocker panel which was badly damaged was repaired. I was concerned at first but honestly once completed I could not tell where the repair was and the car looked just as it did before.
A qualified shop should be able to easily make the repair properly. As for durability I put another 50k miles on the car after repair and never had an issue.
A qualified shop should be able to easily make the repair properly. As for durability I put another 50k miles on the car after repair and never had an issue.
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You don’t want the body shop blending paint into the surrounding panels if they replace it.
So many potential new problems. Not worth it at all for an area that is completely out of sight.
Repair is the way to go.
So many potential new problems. Not worth it at all for an area that is completely out of sight.
Repair is the way to go.
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Today is the day. The dealer is driving it up from the bay area and we are meeting in a parking lot in Sacramento. I probably won't be able to do more than a cursory inspection.
He told me the repair facility replaced the whole panel. He couldn't tell me if it was factory painted or the repair facility painted it.
He told me the repair facility replaced the whole panel. He couldn't tell me if it was factory painted or the repair facility painted it.
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Today is the day. The dealer is driving it up from the bay area and we are meeting in a parking lot in Sacramento. I probably won't be able to do more than a cursory inspection.
He told me the repair facility replaced the whole panel. He couldn't tell me if it was factory painted or the repair facility painted it.
He told me the repair facility replaced the whole panel. He couldn't tell me if it was factory painted or the repair facility painted it.
I also think it would be difficult to get a factory painted panel given the production process. They paint all the panels on a car at once. The panels are all mounted on racks with robots programmed to paint them, they don't paint spare panels. All you have to do is watch one of the paint shop videos to see this wouldn't work.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...tail&FORM=VIRE
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^^^
As you note there are some good video's of the new paint line. The paint robots are programed to paint all the panels that are on a cart. We haven't reached Star Wars robot status where you just say, "R2D2 paint that part!"
As you note there are some good video's of the new paint line. The paint robots are programed to paint all the panels that are on a cart. We haven't reached Star Wars robot status where you just say, "R2D2 paint that part!"
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Considering the difficulty of getting the rocker panel off the car for a replacement, I would just go with a repair.