Legal review of $10K markup
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Legal review of $10K markup
I may have seen this story posted from auto evolution’s web site, but this is review by a lawyer of the dealer marking up AFTER the agreement was signed. Apologies if this is a dupe post of Steve Lehto’s video:
love the Outro at the end of the video: “Don’t confuse yourself Google search with a Law degree.”
love the Outro at the end of the video: “Don’t confuse yourself Google search with a Law degree.”
Last edited by tcinla; 10-24-2020 at 07:26 PM.
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Lehto's Law is one of my favorite YouTube channels.
Which dealer was this?
Which dealer was this?
Last edited by Michael A; 10-24-2020 at 09:31 PM.
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Some dealers do illegal stuff all the time. It's their culture. That's why I only deal with MacMulkin. Zero worries.
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Liberty Chevrolet in California.
As to his "Don’t confuse yourself Google search with a Law degree.” ...well, he says it's too expensive to hire an attorney for a case like this, but then doesn't propose the obvious solution of filing your own suit/representing yourself, as all you have to lose is court costs, and it's a fairly straightforward case that can easily be researched. So, it's self-serving attorney speak. That's like saying someone shouldn't do their own taxes if they're not a tax accountant.
As to his "Don’t confuse yourself Google search with a Law degree.” ...well, he says it's too expensive to hire an attorney for a case like this, but then doesn't propose the obvious solution of filing your own suit/representing yourself, as all you have to lose is court costs, and it's a fairly straightforward case that can easily be researched. So, it's self-serving attorney speak. That's like saying someone shouldn't do their own taxes if they're not a tax accountant.
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I appreciate the legal perspective but it looks like the guy got his car. Maybe the scuzzy dealer figured the bad press wasn’t worth the negative potential on reputation and sales.
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Liberty Chevrolet in California.
As to his "Don’t confuse yourself Google search with a Law degree.” ...well, he says it's too expensive to hire an attorney for a case like this, but then doesn't propose the obvious solution of filing your own suit/representing yourself, as all you have to lose is court costs, and it's a fairly straightforward case that can easily be researched. So, it's self-serving attorney speak. That's like saying someone shouldn't do their own taxes if they're not a tax accountant.
As to his "Don’t confuse yourself Google search with a Law degree.” ...well, he says it's too expensive to hire an attorney for a case like this, but then doesn't propose the obvious solution of filing your own suit/representing yourself, as all you have to lose is court costs, and it's a fairly straightforward case that can easily be researched. So, it's self-serving attorney speak. That's like saying someone shouldn't do their own taxes if they're not a tax accountant.
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Personally, I wouldn't want to do business with someone or some entity that I have to sue. I like the social media route. For every lost sale the dealership encounters...that $10k markup doesn't seem like such a good deal. There was a book written by a gentleman named Joe Girard back in the 1970's called the "World's Greatest Car Salesman" He had what he called the "Rule of 250". It basically said everyone encounters 250 people on a regular basis. And it was basically social media before there was the internet. The premise of his rule was that people influence their friends and acquaintances with their positive and negative experiences. If someone you know and respect tells you of a great meal they had at a restaurant of a great price they got on a product or great service they had at a business, you will probably be more likely inclined to do business with that place and conversely if they had a negative experience you will probably not want to do business with that place. This is how Kerbeck, MacMulkin and Criswell built up their status in the Corvette community.
When a dealership wants to screw with you. I would advise them quite frankly...If you want to play this game, I will let everyone know exactly what happened and will cost you 10 times in lost business than what you would make if I had purchased this car at the markup you are asking for. They may or may not reconsider, but it will cost them in the end.
When a dealership wants to screw with you. I would advise them quite frankly...If you want to play this game, I will let everyone know exactly what happened and will cost you 10 times in lost business than what you would make if I had purchased this car at the markup you are asking for. They may or may not reconsider, but it will cost them in the end.
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That's why I chuckle at the "internet lawyers" with 25 cent law degrees recommending suing for just about anything. You can tell those who know and those who blow smoke.
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Small claims court is not the likely legal arena for most Consumer fraud cases involving Chevy dealers engaged in bushwhacking buyers on C8 corvettes.
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I chuckle just as loud at those insinuating those with the above can’t prevail.
Last edited by Panfish; 10-25-2020 at 04:59 PM.
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Depends, read the contract studiously. Look to see what common law or statutory goods laws are on the books; whether or not arbitration is binding, which law/venue. Things like that. If it's tight on terms, then you can look to breach of contract on bad faith/extortionate grounds. IANAL