Only ONE track focused car in the C8 lineup?
#1
Drifting
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Only ONE track focused car in the C8 lineup?
https://gmauthority.com/blog/2020/08/no-the-corvette-c8-z06-will-not-have-a-twin-turbo-v8-video/ I believe this article about sums up the future variants in the C8 lineup. DO NOT count on the ZR1 or Zora to meet track day needs, and there is a MAJOR reason the Z06 is being benchmarked against a 991 GT2RS. That reason might be ULTIMATE track performance from the C8 series. Dont look at strictly hp numbers for track cars either. The ZR1 and Zora are to be luxury point and shoot GT cars, according to this article. I believe GM authority is right on the money this time out.
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08-31-2020, 08:49 PM
I’m going to stir the pot.. if you are driving your car to the track, you will never be as fast. In the back of your lizard brain, you know you’ll have to walk home if you screw up. And to be fast, you have to be willing to wad the car up. Back when I was racing, guys would ask me to drive and evaluate their cars. I had two questions. Is your ego going to be hurt, if I’m 2 seconds faster than you are? Who pays for it if I wad it... if I had to pay, I was way more cautious. I’d give them my opinion, based on what I felt, but there was always more left. (Never wadded one, but did get a few dirty...lol)
Anyway, buy a real track car. A single seat F2000, or Mazda... more fun too..
Anyway, buy a real track car. A single seat F2000, or Mazda... more fun too..
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https://gmauthority.com/blog/2020/08/no-the-corvette-c8-z06-will-not-have-a-twin-turbo-v8-video/ I believe this article about sums up the future variants in the C8 lineup. DO NOT count on the ZR1 or Zora to meet track day needs, and there is a MAJOR reason the Z06 is being benchmarked against a 991 GT2RS. That reason might be ULTIMATE track performance from the C8 series. Dont look at strictly hp numbers for track cars either. The ZR1 and Zora are to be luxury point and shoot GT cars, according to this article. I believe GM authority is right on the money this time out.
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#3
I’m going to stir the pot.. if you are driving your car to the track, you will never be as fast. In the back of your lizard brain, you know you’ll have to walk home if you screw up. And to be fast, you have to be willing to wad the car up. Back when I was racing, guys would ask me to drive and evaluate their cars. I had two questions. Is your ego going to be hurt, if I’m 2 seconds faster than you are? Who pays for it if I wad it... if I had to pay, I was way more cautious. I’d give them my opinion, based on what I felt, but there was always more left. (Never wadded one, but did get a few dirty...lol)
Anyway, buy a real track car. A single seat F2000, or Mazda... more fun too..
Anyway, buy a real track car. A single seat F2000, or Mazda... more fun too..
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#4
Le Mans Master
I’m going to stir the pot.. if you are driving your car to the track, you will never be as fast. In the back of your lizard brain, you know you’ll have to walk home if you screw up. And to be fast, you have to be willing to wad the car up. Back when I was racing, guys would ask me to drive and evaluate their cars. I had two questions. Is your ego going to be hurt, if I’m 2 seconds faster than you are? Who pays for it if I wad it... if I had to pay, I was way more cautious. I’d give them my opinion, based on what I felt, but there was always more left. (Never wadded one, but did get a few dirty...lol)
Anyway, buy a real track car. A single seat F2000, or Mazda... more fun too..
Anyway, buy a real track car. A single seat F2000, or Mazda... more fun too..
multi purpose machines are never as good as dedicated machines.
#5
Race Director
Just an observation. I'd love for someone to point out any flaws with this one.
can't wait. Should sell better than the last Z28! (Sarcasm)
Or maybe the 1LE ZL1! (Again sarcasm).
Who knows maybe the corvette faithful will feel different this time? I mean the FRC didn't sell. And birthed the Z06 which did but....? it needed to be tamed so more and more creature comforts and HP (C6Z) and boom. Big fat pig (C7Z) with tons of power but they sold a ***** ton of em. Convertibles too. Z07 OPTION CONVERTIBLES!
gotta get over it. Z06 IS NOT GOING hard-core racer. Great dream though (even though they wouldn't sell enough to make the investment worth it because we have about 50 C7Z06 or ZR1 drivers combined that actually track it.. the other 7000 take it once in a blue moon or never and want the comforts (even though they swear they could do without them lmao)
Or maybe the 1LE ZL1! (Again sarcasm).
Who knows maybe the corvette faithful will feel different this time? I mean the FRC didn't sell. And birthed the Z06 which did but....? it needed to be tamed so more and more creature comforts and HP (C6Z) and boom. Big fat pig (C7Z) with tons of power but they sold a ***** ton of em. Convertibles too. Z07 OPTION CONVERTIBLES!
gotta get over it. Z06 IS NOT GOING hard-core racer. Great dream though (even though they wouldn't sell enough to make the investment worth it because we have about 50 C7Z06 or ZR1 drivers combined that actually track it.. the other 7000 take it once in a blue moon or never and want the comforts (even though they swear they could do without them lmao)
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#6
Le Mans Master
Unfortunately a lot of people will buy the Z06 just to impress others. Will never see a track but will be regularly seen at the local Culver's ice cream cruise night for the early bird dinner specials.
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#7
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can't wait. Should sell better than the last Z28! (Sarcasm)
Or maybe the 1LE ZL1! (Again sarcasm).
Who knows maybe the corvette faithful will feel different this time? I mean the FRC didn't sell. And birthed the Z06 which did but....? it needed to be tamed so more and more creature comforts and HP (C6Z) and boom. Big fat pig (C7Z) with tons of power but they sold a ***** ton of em. Convertibles too. Z07 OPTION CONVERTIBLES!
gotta get over it. Z06 IS NOT GOING hard-core racer. Great dream though (even though they wouldn't sell enough to make the investment worth it because we have about 50 C7Z06 or ZR1 drivers combined that actually track it.. the other 7000 take it once in a blue moon or never and want the comforts (even though they swear they could do without them lmao)
Or maybe the 1LE ZL1! (Again sarcasm).
Who knows maybe the corvette faithful will feel different this time? I mean the FRC didn't sell. And birthed the Z06 which did but....? it needed to be tamed so more and more creature comforts and HP (C6Z) and boom. Big fat pig (C7Z) with tons of power but they sold a ***** ton of em. Convertibles too. Z07 OPTION CONVERTIBLES!
gotta get over it. Z06 IS NOT GOING hard-core racer. Great dream though (even though they wouldn't sell enough to make the investment worth it because we have about 50 C7Z06 or ZR1 drivers combined that actually track it.. the other 7000 take it once in a blue moon or never and want the comforts (even though they swear they could do without them lmao)
#8
....the Z06 is most likely going to be the MOST hardcore track car offered at ANY time in corvettes history.... Benchmarking will tell you that a GT2RS is barely a road car to begin with. All reports say the same thing as well with advanced AERO for anything but putting around and checking out scenery.
#9
Instructor
Agreed the Z06 doesn’t need to be more than a track focused piece but will be interesting to see how Chevy plays it and if they offer a package that helps cut weight and improve performance within the model.
#10
can't wait. Should sell better than the last Z28! (Sarcasm)
Or maybe the 1LE ZL1! (Again sarcasm).
Who knows maybe the corvette faithful will feel different this time? I mean the FRC didn't sell. And birthed the Z06 which did but....? it needed to be tamed so more and more creature comforts and HP (C6Z) and boom. Big fat pig (C7Z) with tons of power but they sold a ***** ton of em. Convertibles too. Z07 OPTION CONVERTIBLES!
gotta get over it. Z06 IS NOT GOING hard-core racer. Great dream though (even though they wouldn't sell enough to make the investment worth it because we have about 50 C7Z06 or ZR1 drivers combined that actually track it.. the other 7000 take it once in a blue moon or never and want the comforts (even though they swear they could do without them lmao)
Or maybe the 1LE ZL1! (Again sarcasm).
Who knows maybe the corvette faithful will feel different this time? I mean the FRC didn't sell. And birthed the Z06 which did but....? it needed to be tamed so more and more creature comforts and HP (C6Z) and boom. Big fat pig (C7Z) with tons of power but they sold a ***** ton of em. Convertibles too. Z07 OPTION CONVERTIBLES!
gotta get over it. Z06 IS NOT GOING hard-core racer. Great dream though (even though they wouldn't sell enough to make the investment worth it because we have about 50 C7Z06 or ZR1 drivers combined that actually track it.. the other 7000 take it once in a blue moon or never and want the comforts (even though they swear they could do without them lmao)
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#11
Le Mans Master
Hate to break the news to you, but yes the Z06 is most likely going to be the MOST hardcore track car offered at ANY time in corvettes history including the possibility of MULTIMATIC suspension like the Camaros used. Benchmarking will tell you that a GT2RS is barely a road car to begin with. All reports say the same thing as well with advanced AERO for anything but putting around and checking out scenery.
I track my cars but there is no way I would get a Z06 with a multimatic suspension. I have test driven the ZL1 1LE multiple times and that car beats you up bad. Unless you drive on flat, very smooth roads. then it would be fine.
The C8 is far more GT car than track car, and GM knows it's buyers.
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#12
Multimatic suspension is undriveable on most roads. It might be a track option for the Z06 but it will not be standard because, again, 99% of Corvette owners will not track this car.
I track my cars but there is no way I would get a Z06 with a multimatic suspension. I have test driven the ZL1 1LE multiple times and that car beats you up bad. Unless you drive on flat, very smooth roads. then it would be fine.
The C8 is far more GT car than track car, and GM knows it's buyers.
I track my cars but there is no way I would get a Z06 with a multimatic suspension. I have test driven the ZL1 1LE multiple times and that car beats you up bad. Unless you drive on flat, very smooth roads. then it would be fine.
The C8 is far more GT car than track car, and GM knows it's buyers.
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Drifting
#15
It's from the hard mounted suspension bits, not the dampers.
#16
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The entire system is designed for track use including the dampers. This isnt just a hard mounted suspension kit, but a integrated track focused system for hardcore racing application. The firm has formula 1 experience, as well as track focused production car application.
#17
I’m going to stir the pot.. if you are driving your car to the track, you will never be as fast. In the back of your lizard brain, you know you’ll have to walk home if you screw up. And to be fast, you have to be willing to wad the car up. Back when I was racing, guys would ask me to drive and evaluate their cars. I had two questions. Is your ego going to be hurt, if I’m 2 seconds faster than you are? Who pays for it if I wad it... if I had to pay, I was way more cautious. I’d give them my opinion, based on what I felt, but there was always more left. (Never wadded one, but did get a few dirty...lol)
Anyway, buy a real track car. A single seat F2000, or Mazda... more fun too..
Anyway, buy a real track car. A single seat F2000, or Mazda... more fun too..
I laugh at people who've never raced just casually toss around "just buy a racecar". You have no idea how much expense goes into a dedicated track car.
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#18
The entire system is designed for track use including the dampers. This isnt just a hard mounted suspension kit, but a integrated track focused system for hardcore racing application. The firm has formula 1 experience, as well as track focused production car application.
#19
There's a massive difference between competing and having fun at a trackday weekend. Sure if you want to compete you need to be willing to destroy the equipment. If you want to enjoy your sports car at 80-90% in a controlled environment then there's nothing wrong with enjoying a track weekend.
I laugh at people who've never raced just casually toss around "just buy a racecar". You have no idea how much expense goes into a dedicated track car.
I laugh at people who've never raced just casually toss around "just buy a racecar". You have no idea how much expense goes into a dedicated track car.
#20
Drifting
I must say, that 1LE sounds awesome. When I first heard about it, I guess I just saw the Z06 motor and assumed that was it. I didn't know about the other stuff. I would love to have one; usually too harsh is just about right for me.