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Porsche/Ferrari were forced to move to turbocharging because it was the only way for them to meet Euro5/Euro6 emissions requirements. Not because they are somehow inherently "superior" from the perspective of packaging, weight, throttle response, sound, etc.
That's why the 911 GT3 continues to be N/A. That's why the 718 Cayman GT4/Boxster Spyder have moved back to N/A. That's why everybody admits that the N/A in the 458 Italia is emotionally/aurally superior to the 488 GTB, despite the 488 having better objective performance numbers.
Porsche/Ferrari were forced to move to turbocharging because it was the only way for them to meet Euro5/Euro6 emissions requirements. Not because they are somehow inherently "superior" from the perspective of packaging, weight, throttle response, sound, etc.
That's why the 911 GT3 continues to be N/A. That's why the 718 Cayman GT4/Boxster Spyder have moved back to N/A. That's why everybody admits that the N/A in the 458 Italia is emotionally/aurally superior to the 488 GTB, despite the 488 having better objective performance numbers.
This. Give me NA any day. The GT3 throttle response and revs make it exciting.
There is a lot of variation that GM has available to balance. Note that the MB engine is not especially high rpm but utilizes the characteristics of the FP for among other things be able to increase the compressor wheel while keeping good throttle response.[/QUOTE]
And....... The exhaust note song will finally be correct without the rap consistent with the present Chevy firing order!.... Lord knows I've been waiting for GM to "fix" that since the big bore came on the scene back in the day!
All of these cars are between 3000 and 3200 pounds.
The real question is what will it weigh?
Exactly why I’ve been saying as much as a NA FPC application is intriguing, it just doesn’t make sense (especially with the inherent lower torque numbers). It all comes down to weight, and there’s no way GM can cost effectively cut a significant amount of weight to make the NA FPC in a Z06 make sense.
The story will always be how track focused this car actually is. This very well could be a multimatic serial spine murder car. If thats the case i see two versions like the ZL1 and ZL1LE. It literally might kill Ferraris Tributo outright.
600 n/a horsepower would be a hit in a 3000 pound C8Z, but I suspect the weight will be closer to 3650#. 600 n/a horsepower, IMO, in a 3650# car would be fun for a few, but would be a performance "miss" in general. IMO given the likely path of following the normal trend of more weight and content, even with some lightweight parts added, the power target should be closer to the 700 mark.
I'm guessing it will be more than 650 HP....maybe 675-700? I'm also hoping for a revised exterior (specially rear end) and not just different side vents on a wide body and also hoping for an Active Wing!!
It is what we were told at carlisle last year. I can pull up the post.
Smaller CID TT 750hp being the only difference I bet it's in that range.
2023 MY late 2022 release. Everything plays out right ill enjoy my 19 for 4yrs roughly it'll be paid off and the down payment plus tax credit for my #41 spot on Mike Furman's list at MSRP...
How do you know what number you are with Mike?
I put a hold down in July, but he said he only had deal folder names and with time stamps.....not a list that i recall
And just like that, the lame Hagerty ‘leaked document’ seem like just a bad joke played on a few gullible people.
Whoever thinks the C8 Z06 will be +150lbs and have NA 600HP is off their rocker.
this might have even been orchestrated by GM to quell those unsubstantiated rumors.
Doesn't really matter at this point if it is NA or TT with over 650hp, the car WILL SELL. Look at the stingray and how popular and fast that is, as a base car. Almost as fast as a C7Z. It really only needs another 100hp and it'll mop the floor with a C7Z. Which is pretty much the "only" standard GM should go by, for it to be faster than a previous gen Z.
And it will handle because of the nature of the design.
I think the NA is going into the C8Z. But it's ok, because an exhaust will make it sing like a ferrari. And i can't wait to flick the paddles in my ferrari z06.
The story will always be how track focused this car actually is. This very well could be a multimatic serial spine murder car. If thats the case i see two versions like the ZL1 and ZL1LE. It literally might kill Ferraris Tributo outright.
I expect they'll do a DSSV, hard mounted suspension version like the ZLE just to get ridiculous laptimes for marketing. I'm all in if they do.
He told me the same thing and I'm on his list since july as well.
Same. I've been on his list since late June and he specifically said he's not assigning numbers/deposits until the car is revealed. Sounds like someone is telling a tale or "misspoke". Unless he stopped providing a numbers along the way.
I speculated a long while back that the Z06 will be TT DOHC FPC, The ZR1 will be that powertrain + electric assist. And the NA FPC 5.5L will be for the Grandsport. Who knows how it will play out. I'd think they would have to do something with the NA FPC motor to be able to use it in the C8.R.
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