Leather interior colors/materials
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Mulan leather is a manufactured leather made by grinding up leather scraps, mixing with bonding agents and then forming sheets. The "pattern" is embossed into the material.
Napa leather is real natural leather. It has a softer feel than Mulan.
Napa leather is real natural leather. It has a softer feel than Mulan.
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Now I know. Thank you.
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A negative of bonded leather (often used on future) is it can dry out and shrink with heat. The furniture industry warns about having it in a hot sunny area or around floor heating vents! The dash is subjected to the hot sun. Assume Vinyl, if anything, stretches! Sure hope GM learned from the C7 and made my C8 3LT dash from Vinyl! Although I have no issues with my 3LT dash in 3 1/2 years.
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Yeah, "leather" has become a generic term for automotive upholstery material.... frankly, as long as it doesn't look like crushed velor, doesn't stain, doesn't collect condensation in humid weather, and comes as standard equipment, I really don't want to know how it is made.
BTW, the Mongolian Alcantara is an endangered species...
BTW, the Mongolian Alcantara is an endangered species...
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This is an old thread but I have a question for the group... given the different interior materials, what do I use to clean the interior? For example, do I use leather conditioner on every surface that looks leather? And Armoural on the obvious "plastic" parts? I have heard that using Armoural on leather is not good so I don't want to mess up! Thanks.
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The Owner's Manual says water with a little soap! Even the real tanned animal hide Napa leather is coated with thin plastic for protection.
BUT it also says IF you use a cleaner:
To prevent dirt particle abrasions, regularly
clean the vehicle's interior. Before using
cleaners, read and follow all safety
instructions on the label. While cleaning the
interior, open the doors and windows to get
proper ventilation. Newspapers or dark
garments can transfer color to the vehicle’s
Use cleaners specifically designed for the
surfaces being cleaned to prevent
permanent damage to the vehicle. Apply
all cleaners directly to a cleaning cloth.
Do not spray cleaners on any switches or
controls.
Never rub any surface aggressively or
with too much pressure.
. Do not get any exposed electrical
components wet.
. Do not use laundry detergents or
dishwashing soaps with degreasers. Do
not use solutions that contain strong
or caustic soap.
. Do not heavily saturate the upholstery
when cleaning.
. Do not use solvents or cleaners
containing solvents.
. Do not use disinfecting wipes that are
scented or contain bleach. Do not use
wipes or cleaners that show a color
transfer to the wipe or change the
appearance of the interior surface
when used.
. Do not use scented or gel-type hand
sanitizers. If hand sanitizer comes in
contact with interior surfaces of the
vehicle, blot immediately and clean
with a soft cloth dampened with a
mild soap and water solution.
All that said have not had to use my preferred Zaino cleaner on my 2020 Natural Dipped. However, wife had white leather (probably faux) on her prior BMW X5 SUV. Her new designer jeans caused a blue stain on the bolster. She asked me what I used (very surprising.) I was able to remove it with my Zaino leather, vinyl cleaner! I have their "conditioner" that says leather and vinyl but seldom use it and then ONLY on my Nappa leather seats. Smells nice!
The Owner's Manual says water with a little soap! Even the real tanned animal hide Napa leather is coated with thin plastic for protection.
BUT it also says IF you use a cleaner:
To prevent dirt particle abrasions, regularly
clean the vehicle's interior. Before using
cleaners, read and follow all safety
instructions on the label. While cleaning the
interior, open the doors and windows to get
proper ventilation. Newspapers or dark
garments can transfer color to the vehicle’s
Use cleaners specifically designed for the
surfaces being cleaned to prevent
permanent damage to the vehicle. Apply
all cleaners directly to a cleaning cloth.
Do not spray cleaners on any switches or
controls.
Never rub any surface aggressively or
with too much pressure.
. Do not get any exposed electrical
components wet.
. Do not use laundry detergents or
dishwashing soaps with degreasers. Do
not use solutions that contain strong
or caustic soap.
. Do not heavily saturate the upholstery
when cleaning.
. Do not use solvents or cleaners
containing solvents.
. Do not use disinfecting wipes that are
scented or contain bleach. Do not use
wipes or cleaners that show a color
transfer to the wipe or change the
appearance of the interior surface
when used.
. Do not use scented or gel-type hand
sanitizers. If hand sanitizer comes in
contact with interior surfaces of the
vehicle, blot immediately and clean
with a soft cloth dampened with a
mild soap and water solution.
All that said have not had to use my preferred Zaino cleaner on my 2020 Natural Dipped. However, wife had white leather (probably faux) on her prior BMW X5 SUV. Her new designer jeans caused a blue stain on the bolster. She asked me what I used (very surprising.) I was able to remove it with my Zaino leather, vinyl cleaner! I have their "conditioner" that says leather and vinyl but seldom use it and then ONLY on my Nappa leather seats. Smells nice!
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This is an old thread but I have a question for the group... given the different interior materials, what do I use to clean the interior? For example, do I use leather conditioner on every surface that looks leather? And Armoural on the obvious "plastic" parts? I have heard that using Armoural on leather is not good so I don't want to mess up! Thanks.
And in a 2LT, the "leather" on the dash, console and doors is actually TPU (ThermoplasticPolyUrethane) or "synthetic leather" And in a 3LT, the only Napa is the seat inserts (unless you get the microsuede inserts - in which case there's no Napa at all. The dash, console and doors are all Mulan.
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Let's define real high end.
Even Mulan "real leather" is coated in plastic. Except for real high end cars, ALL automotive leather is coated for wear resistance and ease of cleaning. So a leather treatment is probably not going to even penetrate to the real leather.
And in a 2LT, the "leather" on the dash, console and doors is actually TPU (ThermoplasticPolyUrethane) or "synthetic leather" And in a 3LT, the only Napa is the seat inserts (unless you get the microsuede inserts - in which case there's no Napa at all. The dash, console and doors are all Mulan.
And in a 2LT, the "leather" on the dash, console and doors is actually TPU (ThermoplasticPolyUrethane) or "synthetic leather" And in a 3LT, the only Napa is the seat inserts (unless you get the microsuede inserts - in which case there's no Napa at all. The dash, console and doors are all Mulan.
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Yes, they're real leather. And coated with a plastic sealer, just like the leather in a Corvette. Buy a Rolls and your butt is touching cowhide. Buy a Bimmer or Mercedes, and it's touching a layer of plastic.
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Not so sure all German Cars use real leather. Here is why. In certain countries you cannot call products like Mulan leather. Argentina was one. Australia sued Toyota some time for calling a seat material they use (SofTex) leather and won. Toyota is now more honest that GM and most US furniture sellers and say:
SofTex is a synthetic leather material that is used in Toyota vehicles. It’s meant as an alternative to leather. The material is designed from thermoplastic polyurethane, otherwise known as TPU.
Toyota offers SofTex because it cleans easily and is virtually maintenance-free. It also resists spills. Even though it’s not leather, it remains soft to the touch, but at half the weight.
With the construction, it generates about 85% less CO2 emissions. Considering this gas is the primary driver of climate change, it’s easy to see how SofTex is better for the environment.
It’s also rated at 99% less Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) than traditional synthetic leather, making it a healthier option. Furthermore, it doesn’t include animal-based materials.
I checked and the Law in Germany and for many products cannot call faux leather "leather." BUT cars are exempt (at least were!) Probably for competitive reasons. Some believe (or want to believe) Mulan is real leather! And GM words don't say it's not (also don't say it is!) Yet in their literature they use the word leather. Like Chryslers Corinthian Leather that was faux leather!
Not so sure all German Cars use real leather. Here is why. In certain countries you cannot call products like Mulan leather. Argentina was one. Australia sued Toyota some time for calling a seat material they use (SofTex) leather and won. Toyota is now more honest that GM and most US furniture sellers and say:
SofTex is a synthetic leather material that is used in Toyota vehicles. It’s meant as an alternative to leather. The material is designed from thermoplastic polyurethane, otherwise known as TPU.
Toyota offers SofTex because it cleans easily and is virtually maintenance-free. It also resists spills. Even though it’s not leather, it remains soft to the touch, but at half the weight.
With the construction, it generates about 85% less CO2 emissions. Considering this gas is the primary driver of climate change, it’s easy to see how SofTex is better for the environment.
It’s also rated at 99% less Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) than traditional synthetic leather, making it a healthier option. Furthermore, it doesn’t include animal-based materials.
I checked and the Law in Germany and for many products cannot call faux leather "leather." BUT cars are exempt (at least were!) Probably for competitive reasons. Some believe (or want to believe) Mulan is real leather! And GM words don't say it's not (also don't say it is!) Yet in their literature they use the word leather. Like Chryslers Corinthian Leather that was faux leather!
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Not so sure all German Cars use real leather.
I checked and the Law in Germany and for many products cannot call faux leather "leather." BUT cars are exempt (at least were!) Probably for competitive reasons. Some believe (or want to believe) Mulan is real leather! And GM words don't say it's not (also don't say it is!) Yet in their literature they use the word leather. Like Chryslers Corinthian Leather that was faux leather!
Not so sure all German Cars use real leather.
I checked and the Law in Germany and for many products cannot call faux leather "leather." BUT cars are exempt (at least were!) Probably for competitive reasons. Some believe (or want to believe) Mulan is real leather! And GM words don't say it's not (also don't say it is!) Yet in their literature they use the word leather. Like Chryslers Corinthian Leather that was faux leather!
Owning a C6, I was interested to read that the LT3 interiors for C6's were made by Lear Industries. No problem with my LT3 interior. Still looks like it did when I got the car.
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Here's a post from CF forum that discloses the LT3 interiors for C8's are made by Faurecia a French company. https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-corvette.html
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My guess is that the materials used are subject to negotiation between Faurecia and GM. It looks like Faurecia's manufacturing processes are highly keyed to the properties of the material, the "leather" they use. Faurecia looks like a huge company, I'd imagine they manufacturer their interior materials, so have them as a subcontractor means you most likely are constrained to use their interior material. Yes, I also think that the really high end automobile manufacturers, like I've read of Rolls Royce in the past, do specify their own leather sources.
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The leather is supplied by Bader (which also has a bonded leather). The other soft touch materials are Alura Elite (a TPO) provided by Haartz:
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