The Flying Frunk Club...!
#21
I can only believe what my eyes and ears tell me. And that is: It is NOT user error! GM has a serious problem on their hands which they need to own. Until then I’m in NO hurry for my C8.
Everyone should judge for themselves… Here is the “Original” Youtube video slowed down to 1/4 speed. God gave most of us good eyes, ears and a brain. I’d recommend you review this 30 second video and use all of the above. Good luck and stay safe! Here’s the link:
If it acts like a latch, sounds like a latch and fails like a latch it can ONLY be THE LATCH!
Everyone should judge for themselves… Here is the “Original” Youtube video slowed down to 1/4 speed. God gave most of us good eyes, ears and a brain. I’d recommend you review this 30 second video and use all of the above. Good luck and stay safe! Here’s the link:
If it acts like a latch, sounds like a latch and fails like a latch it can ONLY be THE LATCH!
#22
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Prior to the frunk hood release episode (May 24, 2020) on my C8, when I put the car into reverse, I got a blue screen with a message to repair the backup camera. I had seen this several times previously. I then continued out of the parking lot onto the street where the hood released upward as I accelerated to about 20 mph. Prior to the incident, I did not receive any message on the instrument panel referencing "trunk open" or hear any alarms. Could this imply a computer problem?
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#23
Drifting
Prior to the frunk hood release episode (May 24, 2020) on my C8, when I put the car into reverse, I got a blue screen with a message to repair the backup camera. I had seen this several times previously. I then continued out of the parking lot onto the street where the hood released upward as I accelerated to about 20 mph. Prior to the incident, I did not receive any message on the instrument panel referencing "trunk open" or hear any alarms. Could this imply a computer problem?
#24
On Porsche, if the primary electronic release is locked out, the cable does nothing by only releasing the secondary. Again, this ONLY applies to the child escape handle. The mechanical secondary has no electronic connection.
Last edited by Foosh; 08-12-2020 at 12:37 PM.
#25
Drifting
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Here is my take on this issue. The OTA fix for the supposed emergency trunk latch is really a fix for the Frunk flying open. They are disguising the dangerous opening problem as a different issue, blaming the OTA fix on a mysterious faulty emergency latch release to avoid having to pay for damages done to the cars GM damaged because of faulty programming on the trunk latch. Blame it on the customer for not latching the hood properly but have a mysterious OTA that has something to do with the hood unlatching sounds very fishy to me. Sorry GM Lawyers you think you are clever but your not.
Last edited by MagicGlass; 08-12-2020 at 01:38 PM.
#26
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Prior to the frunk hood release episode (May 24, 2020) on my C8, when I put the car into reverse, I got a blue screen with a message to repair the backup camera. I had seen this several times previously. I then continued out of the parking lot onto the street where the hood released upward as I accelerated to about 20 mph. Prior to the incident, I did not receive any message on the instrument panel referencing "trunk open" or hear any alarms. Could this imply a computer problem?
Did you have the radio on?
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Yes, if you are sure there were no messages or chimes going off prior to the hood coming up then it could be a computer glitch. The problem so far has been having conclusive evidence that there were no chimes or dash warnings.
Last edited by RKCRLR; 08-12-2020 at 01:36 PM.
#27
I believe it is user error. All instances of it opening has been at or around 30mph, right after stopping for some reason. You never hear of it happening after being driven for awhile.
People are inadvertently hitting the button in their pocket or on the side of the door and then driving off.
Why won't GM just not let you put the car in gear if the hood is open?
People are inadvertently hitting the button in their pocket or on the side of the door and then driving off.
Why won't GM just not let you put the car in gear if the hood is open?
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#28
It is design error possibly coupled with a system defect. What you suggest should not be possible with an independent secondary latch that would keep it from flying all the way open, or other safeguard like everyone else has.
Last edited by Foosh; 08-12-2020 at 02:50 PM.
#29
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Valet mode locks out frunk
Not ideal, but this could give someone piece of mind if they're going on a road trip and are worried about the frunk opening from pressing/malfunctioning buttons.
#30
Instructor
Did you have the PDR on (if you have one)?
Did you have the radio on?
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Yes, if you are sure there were no messages or chimes going off prior to the hood coming up then it could be a computer glitch. The problem so far has been having conclusive evidence that there were no chimes or dash warnings.
Did you have the radio on?
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Yes, if you are sure there were no messages or chimes going off prior to the hood coming up then it could be a computer glitch. The problem so far has been having conclusive evidence that there were no chimes or dash warnings.
The damaged hood and hinges were replaced. The hood and fenders were painted. All under warranty.
IF, and I say IF, I had hit the release button in the door or the fob while the car was in park or had left the hood open, there should be no way that the car would allow it to be driven under those conditions. The hood opening problem is a design problem that should account for the possibility of any of the described conditions.
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#33
I posted my Final Solution with details and Instructions if anyone is interested. I can copy it here if asked or you may go there directly https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1602000395 . 'Hope this helps some make a decision. 'sorry too many threads on this subject.
#34
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And, I see on the Forum homepage a recall for frunks that WON'T come open... how Ironic is that???
#36
Drifting
Talked to a salesman today at a local dealership. He said they had a customers C8 in the showroom for about a week. The frunk was popping open on its own with no one around. It did it a few times over the week or so.
No reason for him to make this up.
No reason for him to make this up.
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That one should have had the GM engineers on a plane the first day to come down and inspect. Did that happen?
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#39
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It just doesn't make sense to me why you're even allowed to put the car, in drive with the frunk unlatched? That just doesn't make sense. The gauge cluster is completely digital. You should also get a full screen warning popup screen, that overlays over the entire gauge cluster, when the hood is unlatched. "Latch front trunk to shift from Park." The key fob and the door pocket should not do anything, unless the car is in park, and then if the frunk isn't closed, you shouldn't be able to shift the car out of park. Problem solved, and I'm not even an engineer.
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#40
To Quote an engineer I had a discussion with when I thought that I had discovered a mistake in their Installation Instructions, "What kind of LETTERS do you have after YOUR Name?" I said, "It is not the letters after your name that counts, It is the stuff between the ears!" He apologized after my information I provided him and admitted he had to rewrite their manuals when we concluded our conversation. BTW, I do have letters, but that didn't matter because I learned the answer ( I = E/R ) to the mistake in elementary school .