Front hood popped open today
#821
Race Director
I must say that everyone's ingenuity in coming up with various "tethers" is impressive. BUT....
I would pull fuse 18. If you get a Frunk flying with a "tether" and damage still occurs, GM has an EASY out to NOT repair the car on their dime. Especially the tethers that are on the left or right side of the metal loop. I can see the hood being pulled way out of alignment.
I would pull fuse 18. If you get a Frunk flying with a "tether" and damage still occurs, GM has an EASY out to NOT repair the car on their dime. Especially the tethers that are on the left or right side of the metal loop. I can see the hood being pulled way out of alignment.
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#822
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i must say that everyone's ingenuity in coming up with various "tethers" is impressive. But....
I would pull fuse 18. If you get a frunk flying with a "tether" and damage still occurs, gm has an easy out to not repair the car on their dime. Especially the tethers that are on the left or right side of the metal loop. I can see the hood being pulled way out of alignment.
I would pull fuse 18. If you get a frunk flying with a "tether" and damage still occurs, gm has an easy out to not repair the car on their dime. Especially the tethers that are on the left or right side of the metal loop. I can see the hood being pulled way out of alignment.
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#827
if you pulled fuse #18, would you please open the hood and press the button in the trunk and listen for the open sound. Maybe the button in the trunk is on the fuse for the battery tender plug next to the button?????
#828
Drifting
Why doesn't GM issue an OTA update that makes it so the frunk latch won't operate while the vehicle is in gear/moving? It seems like a simple solution or is there something that would prevent them from doing so?
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Because that's against the law. The storage compartment HAS TO open given the child safety release.
#830
Le Mans Master
That's the way it is supposed to work (other than the child escape latch in the frunk). And when people test the switches that is the way it works.
#831
Drifting
Why does the latch need to be operational while the vehicle is gear/moving? I can't imagine some kid would crawl into the frunk & close the lid & just stay inside there for who knows how long until the vehicle drives away. I would think if some kid crawled in there & shut the lid by mistake or on purpose or someone shut the lid on them that the first thing they would do is hit the interior safety release button immediately to get back out.
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(ii) When the passenger car is moving forward at a speed less than 5 km/h, the release mechanism must release the trunk lid from the primary latching position or latch system, and may release the trunk lid from all latching positions or latch systems;
(iii) When the passenger car is moving forward at a speed of 5 km/h or greater, the release mechanism must release the trunk lid from the primary latching position or latch system, but must not release the trunk lid from the secondary latching position or latch system.
(iii) When the passenger car is moving forward at a speed of 5 km/h or greater, the release mechanism must release the trunk lid from the primary latching position or latch system, but must not release the trunk lid from the secondary latching position or latch system.
Last edited by jvp; 08-11-2020 at 11:39 AM.
#833
Drifting
Yes, the good old government & their laws to save us from ourselves. I guess the best fix so far, as many have recommended, is pulling fuse 18 & just using the emergency release cable left of the brake pedal to get into the frunk. It seems like a better fix than messing around with tethers etc...
#834
Analysis of two of the videos posted... suggests human error. I'm not convinced yet but it does appear, based on reading this, that it could be human error even when someone is sure their frunk was down...
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2020...F6q_InxHUr0aog
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2020...F6q_InxHUr0aog
#835
Melting Slicks
Yes, the good old government & their laws to save us from ourselves. I guess the best fix so far, as many have recommended, is pulling fuse 18 & just using the emergency release cable left of the brake pedal to get into the frunk. It seems like a better fix than messing around with tethers etc...
Last edited by Speednet; 08-11-2020 at 12:23 PM.
#836
Le Mans Master
That's not really a fix when the problem is that someone leaves the frunk lid ajar and then goes driving -- as is probably the case in most if not all instances. Just like the flying roof club, whose membership is made up of people who don't properly latch the roof panel.
So are Corvette owners just more blind, deaf, and dumb than Porsche owners?
Does GM need to administer an IQ/hearing/eye test before buying a C8?
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#837
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Hey Speednet!
Are you a shill for GM?
Norm
Are you a shill for GM?
Norm
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Why does the latch need to be operational while the vehicle is gear/moving? I can't imagine some kid would crawl into the frunk & close the lid & just stay inside there for who knows how long until the vehicle drives away. I would think if some kid crawled in there & shut the lid by mistake or on purpose or someone shut the lid on them that the first thing they would do is hit the interior safety release button immediately to get back out.
#839
Drifting
That's not really a fix when the problem is that someone leaves the frunk lid ajar and then goes driving -- as is probably the case in most if not all instances. Just like the flying roof club, whose membership is made up of people who don't properly latch the roof panel.
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I would really like to put this issue to rest...it won't go away.
Tomorrow I will be getting my car back after 5 weeks. I am both looking forward to my ride and anxious,I only have around 550 miles on it. I will be talking with my dealer and then slowly and attentively driving to my hardware store to pick up the stuff that I will be needing to do a tether. A buddy will be helping me with the tether since he has all of the tools and I do not.
Then I hope that this problem will just go away and I will be able to trust the software and mechanics of the car along with becoming comfortable with the Corvette experience.! Soon there will be a permanent fix,I am sure.
Just one more time,I will explain my particular experience. My pop-up occurred on 6/30. I had not opened my frunk for about 2 weeks prior to that date and drove about 200 miles during that ensuing time period.
I was driving in an easy manner,going about 35 mph. I did see a warning message and pulled over as soon as I could,but the frunk popped. I was slowing down from 35 with it opened. I heard no chime,probably because it was not on a high volume.
I did speak with GM/Chevy a couple of times....once I told them that I contacted my insurance company they stopped the conversation...no surprise. I have also talked to the National Traffic Safety people more than a couple of times. They were very helpful. My insurance company cut a check and told me not to be concerned and that they will deal with the red tape and GM. Done deal.
I have tried to analyze how this happened. My frunk was closed,that I am sure. Is there a fault with the latch? Is it not robust enough? How about the FOB? In driving GM for 30 years I have never had an issue with a fob popping a trunk,latch or window by accident. Never. I always put my fob in the cup holder or tray,so I am discounting the fob as a problem here.. I am talking a good number of GM vehicles for me and my wife during this time.
So it comes down to electronics,sensors and latch. We shall see!
I look forward to driving my C8,safely and with confidence.
Thanks to everybody for their input here and on other forums.
Good luck.
Norm
Tomorrow I will be getting my car back after 5 weeks. I am both looking forward to my ride and anxious,I only have around 550 miles on it. I will be talking with my dealer and then slowly and attentively driving to my hardware store to pick up the stuff that I will be needing to do a tether. A buddy will be helping me with the tether since he has all of the tools and I do not.
Then I hope that this problem will just go away and I will be able to trust the software and mechanics of the car along with becoming comfortable with the Corvette experience.! Soon there will be a permanent fix,I am sure.
Just one more time,I will explain my particular experience. My pop-up occurred on 6/30. I had not opened my frunk for about 2 weeks prior to that date and drove about 200 miles during that ensuing time period.
I was driving in an easy manner,going about 35 mph. I did see a warning message and pulled over as soon as I could,but the frunk popped. I was slowing down from 35 with it opened. I heard no chime,probably because it was not on a high volume.
I did speak with GM/Chevy a couple of times....once I told them that I contacted my insurance company they stopped the conversation...no surprise. I have also talked to the National Traffic Safety people more than a couple of times. They were very helpful. My insurance company cut a check and told me not to be concerned and that they will deal with the red tape and GM. Done deal.
I have tried to analyze how this happened. My frunk was closed,that I am sure. Is there a fault with the latch? Is it not robust enough? How about the FOB? In driving GM for 30 years I have never had an issue with a fob popping a trunk,latch or window by accident. Never. I always put my fob in the cup holder or tray,so I am discounting the fob as a problem here.. I am talking a good number of GM vehicles for me and my wife during this time.
So it comes down to electronics,sensors and latch. We shall see!
I look forward to driving my C8,safely and with confidence.
Thanks to everybody for their input here and on other forums.
Good luck.
Norm
Last edited by Bucco Bar; 08-11-2020 at 08:11 PM.