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Old 07-09-2020, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bikerjulio
In Jag's video above it chimes continuously when in drive except he didn't go too long.
Except in my case, where there's no chimes ever.
I wish that he drove it for longer to see whether it shuts off. What's it supposed to do when functioning correctly? Shut off after a bit, or keep chiming as long as the hood is unlatched? It really should chime as long as the hood is unlatched and the car is in gear. Not good programming if it shuts off.


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Originally Posted by Bikerjulio
In Jag's video above it chimes continuously when in drive except he didn't go too long.

Except in my case, where there's no chimes ever.
Was the chime going because the hood was open or because he wasn’t wearing his seatbelt?
Old 07-09-2020, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by shiumai
I wish that he drove it for longer to see whether it shuts off. What's it supposed to do when functioning correctly? Shut off after a bit, or keep chiming as long as the hood is unlatched? It really should chime as long as the hood is unlatched and the car is in gear. Not good programming if it shuts off.
What about the fact that the alarm system cannot tell the difference between partially latched and fully open?
Old 07-09-2020, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bikerjulio
What about the fact that the alarm system cannot tell the difference between partially latched and fully open?
That is definitely an oversight. If the visual warning is the same (Hood open - 82 MPH Top Speed) for both latch positions, it implies that the car can be driven up to 82 MPH with the hood fully released, which we know is not the case. Both visual warnings should be different (Flashing 'DO NOT DRIVE!' and not allow the gear to go into Drive if the hood is fully unlatched), and so should the audible chimes. I think the chime for the hood fully open should be a sped up chime for urgency. Whatever the programming solution (which is obvious that the car needs at the very least), nothing beats a manual latch.

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Old 07-09-2020, 08:20 PM
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I hate to say it, but I think it was a very simple oversight by engineering. I am an engineer BTW so I have a few whoppers in my past. By calling it a trunk or frunk, the narrative specs got past everyone including the govt oversight on the design if there is such a thing.

Had they called it a HOOD in the first place instead of getting cute, the issue would not exist. How else do you explain the 82 MPH warning? "Hey, Bob, program the trunk warning at 82 MPH". I would not sweat a dash warning that my TRUNK was open at 80 MPH.

This is a serious safety FU and I am amazed that all of them are not parked today. If one C8 kills a family in another car, it's all over for Tadge and the rest of his team. It's horrible that they are acting SO SLOW.

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Old 07-09-2020, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MesquiteTim
I hate to say it, but I think it was a very simple oversight by engineering. I am an engineer BTW so I have a few whoppers in my past. By calling it a trunk or frunk, the narrative specs got past everyone including the govt oversight on the design if there is such a thing.

Had they called it a HOOD in the first place instead of getting cute, the issue would not exist. How else do you explain the 82 MPH limit. "Hey, Bob, program the trunk warning at 82 MPH". I would not sweat a dash warning that my TRUNK was open at 80 MPH.

This is a serious safety FU and I am amazed that all of them are not parked today. If one C8 kills a family in another car, it's all over for Tadge and the rest of his team. It's horrible that they are acting SO SLOW.
GM acting so slow is just classic GM. The engineers forgot the hood opens the other way now on the C8.
Old 07-09-2020, 10:19 PM
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The chime was going because the hood was opened. The seat belt chime doesn't come on initially.
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Old 07-10-2020, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RapidC84B
The Corvette Mechanic on Facebook, who's opinion I respect, is very convinced this is a case of user error and people are not properly latching the hood. Just passing along the opinion.
Sorry, but he may be "very convinced" but in at least some cases he's wrong.

I have always been very careful when closing the frunk to both see and hear it latch correctly. I saw BikerJulio's posting of his incident early on and I did not want to become the next statistic. However, as I've posted earlier, in my case I closed the hood correctly, drove off with no error message or chimes, and 15 minutes later it suddenly released all on it's own. See my previous message for further details.

This Corvette Mechanic guy needs to realize that not all cases match the one he happened to see.


Edit: Here's my previous more detailed post.

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Old 07-10-2020, 08:53 AM
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I'm just going to mount a little wing on it from The Ricer Store to apply constant downforce, so it can't fly open.

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Old 07-10-2020, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MesquiteTim
I hate to say it, but I think it was a very simple oversight by engineering. I am an engineer BTW so I have a few whoppers in my past. By calling it a trunk or frunk, the narrative specs got past everyone including the govt oversight on the design if there is such a thing.

Had they called it a HOOD in the first place instead of getting cute, the issue would not exist. How else do you explain the 82 MPH warning? "Hey, Bob, program the trunk warning at 82 MPH". I would not sweat a dash warning that my TRUNK was open at 80 MPH.

This is a serious safety FU and I am amazed that all of them are not parked today. If one C8 kills a family in another car, it's all over for Tadge and the rest of his team. It's horrible that they are acting SO SLOW.
the owners manual page 10 calls the front "hood" and the rear "hatch/trunk".
Old 07-10-2020, 09:15 AM
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I read the following in a post:
"......the emergency release button inside the frunk. You'll note that button is the only one which will work while the car is in Drive and in motion"
Maybe there are a few defective button switches causing a random signal to be sent?
The button should also have a flip up clear cover.
Old 07-10-2020, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
I'm just going to mount a little wing on it from The Ricer Store to apply constant downforce, so it can't fly open.
, or just an OEM front Countach wing:


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Old 07-10-2020, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect
, or just an OEM front Countach wing:

Sorry to hijack the thread, but it really is sad what Lamborghini did to the Countach in it's later years!
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Old 07-10-2020, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyb
Sorry to hijack the thread, but it really is sad what Lamborghini did to the Countach in it's later years!
Right?

I look back now and think WTF? But back then, and I was probably in high school, thought that was the most awesome thing ever. Two f’n wings!
Old 07-10-2020, 09:36 PM
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There’s a video done by Drivetribe with a guy trying to make his hood pop open several different ways but couldn’t get it to open. The guy looks like JAJAJAMIN, well you know who I mean. He’s driving an orange car with blue interior.
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Old 07-11-2020, 12:32 AM
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Since the video demonstrated that the remote fob is not the source for opening the frunk. The other option to test is the front pad on the bumper. It seems like someone could walk alongside the car moving at 1mph and hit the pad on the bumper to see if that opens the frunk. If that doesn't open the frunk, then it is likely the emergency release insider the frunk or some electronic signal glitch causing it to open. Since this has happened on so few cars, my money is on a few defective emergency release switches.

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I guess we’ll just have to wand see if it’s a problem with the car or the owner. Stay tune don’t change the channel.

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Old 07-11-2020, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jjsaustin
Since the video demonstrated that the remote fob is not the source for opening the frunk. The other option to test is the front pad on the bumper. It seems like someone could walk alongside the car moving at 1mph and hit the pad on the bumper to see if that opens the frunk. If that doesn't open the frunk, then it is likely the emergency release insider the frunk or some electronic signal glitch causing it to open. Since this has happened on so few cars, my money is on a few defective emergency release switches.
There is no way to know how many cases. Like the bloke in the youtube clip who rents cars out. He thinks it was someone jumping on the hood that caused his damage. Bet it was caused by the same issue the latch releasing.

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A friend told me today that his hood flew open as he drove away from his house recently. How did it happen? He simply forgot to close the hood, got busy, then got in the car and took off. He didn't even notice the warning on the instrument cluster until the hood came all the way up. The same could happen even when someone truly thinks they had closed the hood. Could any of the reported incidences happen in this manner? It's definitely a possibility.
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First of all, how many generations of the Corvette ever had a hood open that way? So how times dose this have to happen to trigger a recall?


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