But the Z06 spy shots wing is ugly?
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#44
Literally what's the point? The base C8 goes 194 if you have the room to run it out. You won't use it at an auo-x, you'll never hit that speed at a trackday, you'll never hit that speed on a spirited blast on a back road, you'll never hit that speed on a highway jaunt, you'll never hit that speed on a Corvette club cruise, or in the 1/4 mile, or even a standing mile race.... the only time you'd hit that speed is if you're doing something like the Silver State Classic out west running for speed.
So what's the point?
Cars designed to go fast around a race track often how a lower top speed... see Z51 vs. base C8, because ultimate top speed doesn't matter for almost anything.
So what's the point?
Cars designed to go fast around a race track often how a lower top speed... see Z51 vs. base C8, because ultimate top speed doesn't matter for almost anything.
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#46
Looks cartoonish...no thanks. And, as a ZR1 owner, I don’t hate wings.
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#47
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I hate these big wings. They are stupid looking. Almost none of us will ever have the need for what they can do at extremely high speeds. The look at me "big wing" effect works for some people and once again most of whom will never,ever, use or have the need for all this down force or whatever they do. I guess some guys are into the car cruise "who has the biggest wing", must be the guy who has exceptional driving skills, right? These things are hideous and ruin the lines of gorgeous sports cars and is why some manufacturers employ active aero in this regard.
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I wound personally like to see active aero on the C8 track-oriented versions, especially a wing that can air brake.
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I hate these big wings. They are stupid looking. Almost none of us will ever have the need for what they can do at extremely high speeds. The look at me "big wing" effect works for some people and once again most of whom will never,ever, use or have the need for all this down force or whatever they do. I guess some guys are into the car cruise "who has the biggest wing", must be the guy who has exceptional driving skills, right? These things are hideous and ruin the lines of gorgeous sports cars and is why some manufacturers employ active aero in this regard.
#51
Banned Scam/Spammer
But some of us do use the downforce of the big wings. I'm glad a team of factory engineers design a complete working system, rather than me having to guess which aftermarket parts will give me the performance I'm after. There seems to always be an option without the wing and splitter for those who don't like or need it.
#52
#53
I have no doubt that there are a few who have the need for this down force on road courses. This is in reality a very small number of people who need a "big wing" and will actually realize what it is intended for. Lets call a spade a spade and just acknowledge the fact that most guys want this wing for the look at me factor and will never have the skills or the opportunity to use it.
#54
Cruising
I would love to complain.....however I dont have the money to even think about buying one to complain.
But this is built in a wind tunnel by engineers, and puts function over form. So is it really stupid if it works?
But this is built in a wind tunnel by engineers, and puts function over form. So is it really stupid if it works?
#55
I do not even know what cars and coffee is. I want to get far and fast from the people using distractions on the road. If you are out there alone there is little chance of getting hit by another driver.
I do not belong to any club that would have me. I have been in too many places to conform to a culture of friends.
I do not belong to any club that would have me. I have been in too many places to conform to a culture of friends.
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So...a few philosophical ramblings. There are many reasons why someone is into a particular look of a car, and not all of them can be captured here but for the most part the reasons why we go for a particular style of car can be summarized as:
1) The car reminds the buyer of that car he he wanted when he was growing up. This buyer typically loves retro styling, clean lines, does not like change. Typically not a fan of more exotic cars on the market.
2) The car represents the next evolution in design. This buyer likely had a vision for what the next version of their beloved car should be and was lucky enough that the designers just so happened to agree. Typically a fan of more exotic cars on the market. The danger, if the designers vision doesn't match the buyer's, the brand may lose a fan to another car company (at least for a while).
3) The car represents art. This buyer typically loves innovation in all forms, and looks at cars as three dimensional paintings, all special in their own way, though some more interesting than others. The Ferraris, Paganis, and the Koeneggseggs of the world typically win the styling awards here. Form over function is an important factor for this buyer as the next big thing will always be faster.
4) The car represents speed. This buyer cares about speed and to hades with anything else. This buyer wants to win on the track (or the street) and could care less how it looks if it makes him faster. This buyer cares more about function over form. This is the guy with nitrous and drag radials on a car that was meant to go around corners.
5) The car represents status. This buyer cares about what the Jones down the street are buying and what they think will create a great conversation pieces. Not a real car guy. Likes to have fancy things to brag about. Sadly, this is most of the market. You don't typically find this guy at your local car club event. If he is there, he doesn't want to talk about your car so much as he wants to show you his. This buyer doesn't understand the lines of the car or what a fancy wing represents, he is only able to ape what others have told him or what's printed in an article.
6) The car represents an investment. This buyer doesn't really drive his car, as driving puts miles on it. He may be a car guy, but he is an investor first. You won't see too many of these in the Corvette world as few Corvettes are valued at above sticker price currently if made after about 1980. He might be active on a forum or in a club, but he's more of a window shopper in that he doesn't participate a lot. He's largely there to see what the market value for his car is. This guy helps preserve the car for future generations but at the same time...congrats on the most expensive paperweight you'll ever own.
Corvette guys most often seem to fall into category #1, #2, or #4. We end up fighting over what the car should look like as a result as some want tradition, some want their own vision of the future, and some just want top tier speed at a reasonable price. Occassionally you get the odd #5, but that guy really wants a Ferrari and just can't afford it. #3 is rare in Vetteworld as the styling is often somewhat conservative, with practicality and budgetary constraints.
With respect of a fancy Koeneggseggesque wing, if you like retro styling, yeah I can see why you don't like that. That style is reserved for the #3 and #4s of the car world. Maybe a few #5s who just want to talk about it.
1) The car reminds the buyer of that car he he wanted when he was growing up. This buyer typically loves retro styling, clean lines, does not like change. Typically not a fan of more exotic cars on the market.
2) The car represents the next evolution in design. This buyer likely had a vision for what the next version of their beloved car should be and was lucky enough that the designers just so happened to agree. Typically a fan of more exotic cars on the market. The danger, if the designers vision doesn't match the buyer's, the brand may lose a fan to another car company (at least for a while).
3) The car represents art. This buyer typically loves innovation in all forms, and looks at cars as three dimensional paintings, all special in their own way, though some more interesting than others. The Ferraris, Paganis, and the Koeneggseggs of the world typically win the styling awards here. Form over function is an important factor for this buyer as the next big thing will always be faster.
4) The car represents speed. This buyer cares about speed and to hades with anything else. This buyer wants to win on the track (or the street) and could care less how it looks if it makes him faster. This buyer cares more about function over form. This is the guy with nitrous and drag radials on a car that was meant to go around corners.
5) The car represents status. This buyer cares about what the Jones down the street are buying and what they think will create a great conversation pieces. Not a real car guy. Likes to have fancy things to brag about. Sadly, this is most of the market. You don't typically find this guy at your local car club event. If he is there, he doesn't want to talk about your car so much as he wants to show you his. This buyer doesn't understand the lines of the car or what a fancy wing represents, he is only able to ape what others have told him or what's printed in an article.
6) The car represents an investment. This buyer doesn't really drive his car, as driving puts miles on it. He may be a car guy, but he is an investor first. You won't see too many of these in the Corvette world as few Corvettes are valued at above sticker price currently if made after about 1980. He might be active on a forum or in a club, but he's more of a window shopper in that he doesn't participate a lot. He's largely there to see what the market value for his car is. This guy helps preserve the car for future generations but at the same time...congrats on the most expensive paperweight you'll ever own.
Corvette guys most often seem to fall into category #1, #2, or #4. We end up fighting over what the car should look like as a result as some want tradition, some want their own vision of the future, and some just want top tier speed at a reasonable price. Occassionally you get the odd #5, but that guy really wants a Ferrari and just can't afford it. #3 is rare in Vetteworld as the styling is often somewhat conservative, with practicality and budgetary constraints.
With respect of a fancy Koeneggseggesque wing, if you like retro styling, yeah I can see why you don't like that. That style is reserved for the #3 and #4s of the car world. Maybe a few #5s who just want to talk about it.
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So...a few philosophical ramblings. There are many reasons why someone is into a particular look of a car, and not all of them can be captured here but for the most part the reasons why we go for a particular style of car can be summarized as:
1) The car reminds the buyer of that car he he wanted when he was growing up. This buyer typically loves retro styling, clean lines, does not like change. Typically not a fan of more exotic cars on the market.
2) The car represents the next evolution in design. This buyer likely had a vision for what the next version of their beloved car should be and was lucky enough that the designers just so happened to agree. Typically a fan of more exotic cars on the market. The danger, if the designers vision doesn't match the buyer's, the brand may lose a fan to another car company (at least for a while).
3) The car represents art. This buyer typically loves innovation in all forms, and looks at cars as three dimensional paintings, all special in their own way, though some more interesting than others. The Ferraris, Paganis, and the Koeneggseggs of the world typically win the styling awards here. Form over function is an important factor for this buyer as the next big thing will always be faster.
4) The car represents speed. This buyer cares about speed and to hades with anything else. This buyer wants to win on the track (or the street) and could care less how it looks if it makes him faster. This buyer cares more about function over form. This is the guy with nitrous and drag radials on a car that was meant to go around corners.
5) The car represents status. This buyer cares about what the Jones down the street are buying and what they think will create a great conversation pieces. Not a real car guy. Likes to have fancy things to brag about. Sadly, this is most of the market. You don't typically find this guy at your local car club event. If he is there, he doesn't want to talk about your car so much as he wants to show you his. This buyer doesn't understand the lines of the car or what a fancy wing represents, he is only able to ape what others have told him or what's printed in an article.
6) The car represents an investment. This buyer doesn't really drive his car, as driving puts miles on it. He may be a car guy, but he is an investor first. You won't see too many of these in the Corvette world as few Corvettes are valued at above sticker price currently if made after about 1980. He might be active on a forum or in a club, but he's more of a window shopper in that he doesn't participate a lot. He's largely there to see what the market value for his car is. This guy helps preserve the car for future generations but at the same time...congrats on the most expensive paperweight you'll ever own.
Corvette guys most often seem to fall into category #1, #2, or #4. We end up fighting over what the car should look like as a result as some want tradition, some want their own vision of the future, and some just want top tier speed at a reasonable price. Occassionally you get the odd #5, but that guy really wants a Ferrari and just can't afford it. #3 is rare in Vetteworld as the styling is often somewhat conservative, with practicality and budgetary constraints.
With respect of a fancy Koeneggseggesque wing, if you like retro styling, yeah I can see why you don't like that. That style is reserved for the #3 and #4s of the car world. Maybe a few #5s who just want to talk about it.
1) The car reminds the buyer of that car he he wanted when he was growing up. This buyer typically loves retro styling, clean lines, does not like change. Typically not a fan of more exotic cars on the market.
2) The car represents the next evolution in design. This buyer likely had a vision for what the next version of their beloved car should be and was lucky enough that the designers just so happened to agree. Typically a fan of more exotic cars on the market. The danger, if the designers vision doesn't match the buyer's, the brand may lose a fan to another car company (at least for a while).
3) The car represents art. This buyer typically loves innovation in all forms, and looks at cars as three dimensional paintings, all special in their own way, though some more interesting than others. The Ferraris, Paganis, and the Koeneggseggs of the world typically win the styling awards here. Form over function is an important factor for this buyer as the next big thing will always be faster.
4) The car represents speed. This buyer cares about speed and to hades with anything else. This buyer wants to win on the track (or the street) and could care less how it looks if it makes him faster. This buyer cares more about function over form. This is the guy with nitrous and drag radials on a car that was meant to go around corners.
5) The car represents status. This buyer cares about what the Jones down the street are buying and what they think will create a great conversation pieces. Not a real car guy. Likes to have fancy things to brag about. Sadly, this is most of the market. You don't typically find this guy at your local car club event. If he is there, he doesn't want to talk about your car so much as he wants to show you his. This buyer doesn't understand the lines of the car or what a fancy wing represents, he is only able to ape what others have told him or what's printed in an article.
6) The car represents an investment. This buyer doesn't really drive his car, as driving puts miles on it. He may be a car guy, but he is an investor first. You won't see too many of these in the Corvette world as few Corvettes are valued at above sticker price currently if made after about 1980. He might be active on a forum or in a club, but he's more of a window shopper in that he doesn't participate a lot. He's largely there to see what the market value for his car is. This guy helps preserve the car for future generations but at the same time...congrats on the most expensive paperweight you'll ever own.
Corvette guys most often seem to fall into category #1, #2, or #4. We end up fighting over what the car should look like as a result as some want tradition, some want their own vision of the future, and some just want top tier speed at a reasonable price. Occassionally you get the odd #5, but that guy really wants a Ferrari and just can't afford it. #3 is rare in Vetteworld as the styling is often somewhat conservative, with practicality and budgetary constraints.
With respect of a fancy Koeneggseggesque wing, if you like retro styling, yeah I can see why you don't like that. That style is reserved for the #3 and #4s of the car world. Maybe a few #5s who just want to talk about it.
#59
Melting Slicks
I have no doubt that there are a few who have the need for this down force on road courses. This is in reality a very small number of people who need a "big wing" and will actually realize what it is intended for. Lets call a spade a spade and just acknowledge the fact that most guys want this wing for the look at me factor and will never have the skills or the opportunity to use it.
#60
Pro
Literally what's the point? The base C8 goes 194 if you have the room to run it out. You won't use it at an auo-x, you'll never hit that speed at a trackday, you'll never hit that speed on a spirited blast on a back road, you'll never hit that speed on a highway jaunt, you'll never hit that speed on a Corvette club cruise, or in the 1/4 mile, or even a standing mile race.... the only time you'd hit that speed is if you're doing something like the Silver State Classic out west running for speed.
So what's the point?
Cars designed to go fast around a race track often how a lower top speed... see Z51 vs. base C8, because ultimate top speed doesn't matter for almost anything.
So what's the point?
Cars designed to go fast around a race track often how a lower top speed... see Z51 vs. base C8, because ultimate top speed doesn't matter for almost anything.
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