No 2021 price increase
05-30-2020, 11:33 AM
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C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified 2020
Best news I heard today, Looks like I will not get 2020 at 1100 stage with no allocation yet ( but have a GM number) A 2021 may be in my future with a color change.
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05-30-2020, 11:47 AM
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Yes, but the Forum Henny Penny's said it was going to go up THOUSANDS!
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05-30-2020, 02:43 PM
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Does anyone remember when the C7's were introduced??? The 2nd year cars (2015 model year) were around $1500 more than the MSRP when the 2014's were introduced. GM marketing is too smart to screw with the base price because it gets sooooo much media coverage.
It might be wise to look at the statistics and see how many 'base' C8's have been built so far! Then you can see that the low ball base MSRP is really a joke.... Our HTC will have around $25K in options and I wouldn't even call it 'loaded'.
It might be wise to look at the statistics and see how many 'base' C8's have been built so far! Then you can see that the low ball base MSRP is really a joke.... Our HTC will have around $25K in options and I wouldn't even call it 'loaded'.
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05-30-2020, 02:45 PM
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Good luck.
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06-01-2020, 07:26 AM
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Hmm, don't see the logic???? IF you placed and order for a 2020 and the dealer accepted it as such, it was BEFORE the dealer started taking orders for 2021's!
An example is Kerbeck. They were out of their GM "estimated" allocations of 2020 months ago and started to take orders for 2021's. Just like when I placed my 2020 order in July 2019 they could only "guess" when I "might" get my car. That is all they could tell someone placing a "2021" order. So if I my current 3000 does not get made, GM would push it to 2021. Kerbeck would obviously place my "build 2021 order" when GM opens that first build window say in September, ahead of those 2021 orders that they accepted months ago. It's really a dealer order as GM does not care what a dealer accepted and when. It's when they open an "order placement window" that GM starts keeping track of which order came in when.
Those "early" order numbers with GM are NOT for a build. It's a computer check that the colors are allowed, no conflicting options etc. Has nothing to do with when the dealer will place a "build" order when GM opens an order placement window for a specific number based on a dealers' allocation!
Hmm, don't see the logic???? IF you placed and order for a 2020 and the dealer accepted it as such, it was BEFORE the dealer started taking orders for 2021's!
An example is Kerbeck. They were out of their GM "estimated" allocations of 2020 months ago and started to take orders for 2021's. Just like when I placed my 2020 order in July 2019 they could only "guess" when I "might" get my car. That is all they could tell someone placing a "2021" order. So if I my current 3000 does not get made, GM would push it to 2021. Kerbeck would obviously place my "build 2021 order" when GM opens that first build window say in September, ahead of those 2021 orders that they accepted months ago. It's really a dealer order as GM does not care what a dealer accepted and when. It's when they open an "order placement window" that GM starts keeping track of which order came in when.
Those "early" order numbers with GM are NOT for a build. It's a computer check that the colors are allowed, no conflicting options etc. Has nothing to do with when the dealer will place a "build" order when GM opens an order placement window for a specific number based on a dealers' allocation!
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06-01-2020, 09:15 AM
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I am not surprised to see no price increased announced. GM would have faced a huge backlash due to lack of 2020 production and so many people who will likely get bumped to 2021. On top of that new car sales across the industry have seen huge drops Covid that is expected for at least a few more months. There are undoubtedly many potential C8 buyers who are either going to delay or cancel their purchase. Keeping the price flat in 2021 is key.
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06-01-2020, 11:10 AM
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GM is getting smarter with the ways in which they make money. If you look at Cadillac and GMC, and even the Chevy Blazer, their higher trims are their best-sellers and lower-trim units are sold with lots of options. That's how also Porsche makes money, and it seems to be the game plan with the C8. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Z06 start between $80,000 and $85,000 and reach $125,000 or more. Carbon Fiber rims alone would be $11,000-$14,000, if GM really makes them.
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06-01-2020, 11:14 AM
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Hmm, don't see the logic???? IF you placed and order for a 2020 and the dealer accepted it as such, it was BEFORE the dealer started taking orders for 2021's!
An example is Kerbeck. They were out of their GM "estimated" allocations of 2020 months ago and started to take orders for 2021's. Just like when I placed my 2020 order in July 2019 they could only "guess" when I "might" get my car. That is all they could tell someone placing a "2021" order. So if I my current 3000 does not get made, GM would push it to 2021. Kerbeck would obviously place my "build 2021 order" when GM opens that first build window say in September, ahead of those 2021 orders that they accepted months ago. It's really a dealer order as GM does not care what a dealer accepted and when. It's when they open an "order placement window" that GM starts keeping track of which order came in when.
Those "early" order numbers with GM are NOT for a build. It's a computer check that the colors are allowed, no conflicting options etc. Has nothing to do with when the dealer will place a "build" order when GM opens an order placement window for a specific number based on a dealers' allocation!
Hmm, don't see the logic???? IF you placed and order for a 2020 and the dealer accepted it as such, it was BEFORE the dealer started taking orders for 2021's!
An example is Kerbeck. They were out of their GM "estimated" allocations of 2020 months ago and started to take orders for 2021's. Just like when I placed my 2020 order in July 2019 they could only "guess" when I "might" get my car. That is all they could tell someone placing a "2021" order. So if I my current 3000 does not get made, GM would push it to 2021. Kerbeck would obviously place my "build 2021 order" when GM opens that first build window say in September, ahead of those 2021 orders that they accepted months ago. It's really a dealer order as GM does not care what a dealer accepted and when. It's when they open an "order placement window" that GM starts keeping track of which order came in when.
Those "early" order numbers with GM are NOT for a build. It's a computer check that the colors are allowed, no conflicting options etc. Has nothing to do with when the dealer will place a "build" order when GM opens an order placement window for a specific number based on a dealers' allocation!
Either your 2020 order is fulfilled or it isn’t. After that, it’s a clean slate for 2021 allocations and orders.
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06-01-2020, 11:27 AM
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If your 3000 order for 2020 isn’t fulfilled, you will have to start the ordering process all over again for 2021. You’ll basically be back to square one. GM isn’t going to keep track of unfulfilled orders.
Either your 2020 order is fulfilled or it isn’t. After that, it’s a clean slate for 2021 allocations and orders.
Either your 2020 order is fulfilled or it isn’t. After that, it’s a clean slate for 2021 allocations and orders.
BS! I didn't place my order with GM- nobody did or can! I placed it with a dealer. I don't expect GM to keep track of anything except orders they have from dealers.My dealer was taking 2021 orders months before the March pandemic because they ran out of their ~1400 C8 2020 "estimated" allocation! They will not be placing "build 2021 orders" until probably Septemberish when GM opens the 2021 build order window. By then will know IF my 2020 will be manufactured (actually in my case highly probable it will.) BUT if it will not, my dealer will put me ahead of all other 2021's they can order at that time, ahead of all those that didn't make 3000 and any prior 2021 orders. Expect all dealers will do the same!
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06-01-2020, 11:42 AM
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Kerbeck will be placing 2021 orders in July. If your 3000 order for 2020 isn’t fulfilled, you will have to start the ordering process all over again for 2021.That won’t be until probably as late as October. You’ll basically be back to square one. GM isn’t going to keep track of unfulfilled orders.
Either your 2020 order is fulfilled or it isn’t. After that, it’s a clean slate for 2021 allocations and orders.
Either your 2020 order is fulfilled or it isn’t. After that, it’s a clean slate for 2021 allocations and orders.
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06-01-2020, 05:30 PM
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BS! I didn't place my order with GM- nobody did or can! I placed it with a dealer. I don't expect GM to keep track of anything except orders they have from dealers.My dealer was taking 2021 orders months before the March pandemic because they ran out of their ~1400 C8 2020 "estimated" allocation! They will not be placing "build 2021 orders" until probably Septemberish when GM opens the 2021 build order window. By then will know IF my 2020 will be manufactured (actually in my case highly probable it will.) BUT if it will not, my dealer will put me ahead of all other 2021's they can order at that time, ahead of all those that didn't make 3000 and any prior 2021 orders. Expect all dealers will do the same!
06-01-2020, 05:57 PM
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That is the basic misunderstanding some folks have when their dealer tells them they "placed an order!" Code 1100 means bupkiss! Yep all the colors picked are allowed and no conflicting options! All screened by a computer! The real key is when Kerbeck (or any dealer) can place a "build order" with GM. That only happens when GM opens up a window allowing whoever to place an order to be built based on their allocation.
2020 production will be about half way done
at that point. Those of you with 2020 orders at 3000 or above may not even know if your orders will be fulfilled by November. It puts you in a precarious position because you won’t be able to cancel your 2020 orders even if the likelihood is high that your 2020 order won’t be fulfilled.
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06-01-2020, 06:06 PM
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A few have eluded to it, but when you look at the numbers it's easier to see. 85% of the build is 2LT or 3LT, so who knows what that trim level price will be, plus they have a velocity report on the free flow options too. So a little bit more here and a bit more there and it all adds up. They get to say we never raised the price of the car because the base doesn't go up, but 85% of the build may easily go up a couple three thousand dollars. The only ones that come out are the nickel dicks like me buying a 1LT.
06-01-2020, 06:47 PM
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Too bad there is no price increase. It would have helped recoup some value for those who get their c8 2020 late in the year.
Depreciation: In theory, you have advantaged yourself by getting 2020 if prices increased for 2021. The logic could be the difference offsets your $ loss due to time.
06-01-2020, 08:50 PM
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It was smart of GM not to increase the price at least of the base car for PR purposes. The c8 introduction has been plagued by issues. First the electrical system setback, then the strike, then the Corona virus. Buzz killers each one, but together, WOW.
