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Old 05-26-2020, 02:08 PM
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I started smiling at post 3 and by 10 I completely lost it when Jack showed up. Thanks to the OP for soliciting the humor.

On a more serious note though Paul; reads like Canada is on the short end with prices for 911s.

If 911 is your cup of tea you can easily fetch a 20K miles 2013 911 for low mid 40Ks with an all cash deal in Germany. Add 3k to ship and maybe 1K for a handler and you are done for 45K. Lower depending on your definition of low mileage and what you are willing to stomach with Porsche's definition of low mileage.....
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Originally Posted by Fritzep
Hi everyone

Thanks for all of your advice..especially the one where I was told to go to a bath house and bang everyone in it ..I!
You didn't seem to be getting a warm reception. Thought the bathhouse would make you feel at home...
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Old 05-26-2020, 02:53 PM
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Depends what you like. Some people wouldn’t be caught dead in a Corvette. And some people wouldn’t be caught dead in a foreign car. Buy what you’re comfortable with.
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Originally Posted by Fritzep
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I spoke to the dealer today and due to the current production situation they will allow me to cancel my order and refund my deposit. I love the C8 but I have also always wanted a 911. I was thinking somewhere between 2013 and 2019...A low mileage 911 Carrera S...it will most likely cost me a bit more than the C8, maybe about 10 to 20k canadian dollars....I would like some advice...should I wait for the C8 or go for a used 911?

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There is a 2014 911 S Carrera with only 1475 miles at a Rochester NY Ford dealership $83,900.

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Old 05-26-2020, 03:43 PM
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OP.......any guesses on who the Porsche haters/Corvette fanboys are yet? LOL. Happens every time. Bottom line, a late model 911 C2S is hard to beat. Drive both, look at your bank account and make a personal decision. Many on the forum appreciate and own both cars. Those that talk down on a 911 can’t afford one and therefore have been eliminated choice. Quite simply it pisses them off.

I would strongly encourage the 991.2 twin turbo models as suggested by the rational members on this string. I own a 2017 C2S and love it. But as other members have stated, you can’t be adverse to Porsche maintenance schedules and I agree they make no sense to me. My car has 7,800 miles and just had Porsche do a routine maintenance that cost $900 for an oil change, brake flush and cabin filter change. On the other hand my C7 only had routine oil changes at my local Chevy dealer for hardly nothing. So be aware...and yes you can go to an Indy and save dollars, but buyers in this class of car and above are all about the documentation. No bad choice.

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Old 05-26-2020, 03:47 PM
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Old 05-26-2020, 03:50 PM
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I purchased a 911 Carrera new in 2005. I owned it for 6+ years and no problems whatsoever. The oil changes were no more than my C7 (since it has a dry-sump system it takes 10 qts. of Mobil 1) and the other maintenance was similar in cost. It did go through the rear tires fairly quickly (I typically got 10k on the rears and 20k on the fronts). My C7 got 14k on the original set of tires. The Porsche was pretty much bulletproof.

So, buy what you want. The used Porsche will already have some depreciation hit, and the C8 none. Also, the C8 will have some safety features not on the Porsche. You can't go wrong with either one.
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20 Pages.
I will take that bet and raise you 1. 21 pages at a minimum. We are all about ready to enjoy an early 4th of July. LOl.
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Why don't you ask the same question over on a Mustang forum? My recommendation is that you start with a Mustang and get therapy with the money that is left over.
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Originally Posted by Jimbob26
I purchased a 911 Carrera new in 2005. I owned it for 6+ years and no problems whatsoever. The oil changes were no more than my C7 (since it has a dry-sump system it takes 10 qts. of Mobil 1) and the other maintenance was similar in cost. It did go through the rear tires fairly quickly (I typically got 10k on the rears and 20k on the fronts). My C7 got 14k on the original set of tires. The Porsche was pretty much bulletproof.

So, buy what you want. The used Porsche will already have some depreciation hit, and the C8 none. Also, the C8 will have some safety features not on the Porsche. You can't go wrong with either one.
If you do your own oil changes that may be true. I could have my C7 oil changed for about $60 at the Chevrolet dealership. An oil change on my 911 is $150 at an Indy or $385 at the Porsche dealership.

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Originally Posted by Dr. ice
OP.......any guesses on who the Porsche haters/Corvette fanboys are yet? LOL. Happens every time. Bottom line, a late model 911 C2S is hard to beat. Drive both, look at your bank account and make a personal decision. Many on the forum appreciate and own both cars. Those that talk down on a 911 can’t afford one and therefore have been eliminated choice. Quite simply it pisses them off.

I would strongly encourage the 991.2 twin turbo models as suggested by the rational members on this string. I own a 2017 C2S and love it. But as other members have stated, you can’t be adverse to Porsche maintenance schedules and I agree they make no sense to me. My car has 7,800 miles and just had Porsche do a routine maintenance that cost $900 for an oil change, brake flush and cabin filter change. On the other hand my C7 only had routine oil changes at my local Chevy dealer for hardly nothing. So be aware...and yes you can go to an Indy and save dollars, but buyers in this class of car and above are all about the documentation. No bad choice.
I do all my own service on my RS, it's relatively basic. And while GM may not require a brake flush at the same intervals as Porsche, modern brake systems are all the same-ish, and all can benefit from a biennial flush. If you aren't a track guy there's nothing forcing you to flush your brakes on Porsche's schedule. The cabin filters take 15 minutes max.
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Old 05-26-2020, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. ice
If you do your own oil changes that may be true. I could have my C7 oil changed for about $60 at the Chevrolet dealership. An oil change on my 911 is $150 at an Indy or $385 at the Porsche dealership.
Oil changes on my 2009 911 were very easy. The drain plug is reachable without lifting the car, it’s within an arm length from the back of the car. The oil filter housing is up top in the engine bay.

The oil can be changed with 2 tools without spilling a drop.
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Old 05-26-2020, 05:43 PM
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You sound like you know perfectly well what you want. Why not go out and do it, instead of messing around on the Web? Just saying...
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Old 05-26-2020, 06:24 PM
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I would go for a C8 even though I know how good 911's are. If it was a 911 turbo then a turbo for sure but I think the looks and performance of a C8 is better than a Carrera not to mention the money difference.
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I sold my Porsche for the C8 as it came down to simple order of use. The Porsche, whilst a peach to drive etc just didn't provide the thrill / drama the C8 does. Now a gt3 is another story however, for a quick shoot around town or trip to the track, the C8 fits the bill. So, deciding between these two cars is as much a matter of intention of use vs taste. Had a wished to daily drive a sports car then I likely would have stayed with the Porsche and be done with it. The long term maint. After warranty is a huge factor also. Then there's the aftermarket. Oooh the sweet aftermarket......can't wait.
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I’m kinda in the same boat thought wise. C8 will take a big depreciation hit. The 2017-2018 911 has already taken the “big “ hit.
For me I’m leaning toward 911 because it is a timeless beauty. The c8, (Now this is my opinion so relax), will look very dated in 10 years. I think it will not stand the test of time. (Side scoops, rear end). It does not flow like the modern expensive cars such as a new Vantage or Ferrari.
I think the C8 will be much better in two years.
good luck with your decision.
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Any 911 under a 991 Turbo S i wouldn't consider over a C8. To me the C8 is more exotic looking, top down fun, super fast stock, interior is on the level of the some of the top brands. Something like a 911 Turbo S would win on exclusivity, brand name, PDK is damn near bulletproof and its faster by a good half a second in the 1/4 mile. Just a tune and downpipe you're running low 10's all day easy. It would be a hard choice for me if it came down to a Turbo S or C8. I live in the deep south with great weather all year so it'd be hard for me to not have a drop top

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Old 05-26-2020, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Propspinner
I’m kinda in the same boat thought wise. C8 will take a big depreciation hit. The 2017-2018 911 has already taken the “big “ hit.
For me I’m leaning toward 911 because it is a timeless beauty. The c8, (Now this is my opinion so relax), will look very dated in 10 years. I think it will not stand the test of time. (Side scoops, rear end). It does not flow like the modern expensive cars such as a new Vantage or Ferrari.
I think the C8 will be much better in two years.
good luck with your decision.
"Side scoops" will not stand the test of time like modern expensive cars? WTF? Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Porsches, and the C8s have side "scoops". Not sure why any one would need to "relax" about that. "Scoops" are and have been expected in mid/rear engine vehicles for obvious reasons. 10 years from now when insanely fast electrics have ranges and charging rates our current, top tier, sports cars will be museum pieces. Ya don't think so? Did anyone imagine a full size electric sedan doing 0-60 in 2.5 seconds 10-15 years ago when electric cars were essentially golf carts. DO NOT bet against technology, you will lose every time.
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Originally Posted by punky
A five, six, or seven year old 911 with no warranty vs. a brand new C8. Would you really need to give that one much thought?
My wife and I call it the German wheel of misfortune to have a German car off warranty. I had four modern 911’s for over a decade 996, 997, two 991’s), three were CPO’d and one of the 991’s new. Clutches are $2,500 at least and they are not very robust. Our son’s 997 bought with 35k miles almost four years ago, with about 5k miles per year has averaged $7k a year in repairs, thank goodness he has an extended warranty, the most recent one was almost $200 a month in premium, but well worth it. If you have not had a 911, they are great cars, just do not be surprised by a $375 oil change only at the dealer.
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I agree with suggestions to get a gently used 2018 base Carrera that is CPO; if you get one new enough, you can add the remainder of the original warranty to 2 years of the CPO and have some peace of mind for 2-4 years. If you want a kick in the pants, then upgrade to a 4S; turbos will force you to look for a 2016 or earlier model. I've seen these running for the same cost as a modestly optioned C8. I'd wait for 3 years, let the bugs get worked out, allow you to evaluate the Z06 or Grand Sport variants, and move on.
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