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Old 04-23-2020, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by spireland
Nothing says first world like sacrificing the working class to build products in a slumping market.
Sure, let’s do it your way. Where are you going to come up with the dozens and dozens of trillions of dollars to idle every American worker, business and state program for 6+ months? (More like 12 months, but let’s be wildly optimistic)

Hint: there aren’t nearly enough billionaires on earth to fund what the “stay shutdown until it all goes away” people suggest, even if we tax them at 100%.
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Originally Posted by spireland
Nothing says first world like sacrificing the working class to build products in a slumping market.
Yeah the only people working are the "working class". Maybe you should come out of your cave once in a while. "Sacrifice" what a remark but coming from SF CA not the least bit surprising.
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Old 04-23-2020, 06:49 PM
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I agree 100%, these numbers we are fed are completely off the rails. With up to 40% being asymptomatic and until you show multiple signs before tested, there are probably millions with it in the USA. To your point, there is a woman in our county that has it and the only symptom she has is loss of smell and taste.
I developed respiratory symptoms 3 weeks ago and completed a 14-day quarantine last Friday. Unable to get a Covid test because my symptoms were mild and I didn’t fall into the “high-risk” categories of certain health issues or age. Testing reserved for those who need it most right now. Covid or just a non-Covid URI? Only way to nail that down is an anti-body test. I did have double pneumonia in the mid-late ‘90’s as a healthy mid 30’s guy. It almost killed me, I lost 30+ pounds in the 3+ weeks I was sick and had to go through breathing therapy.

A common final stop for Covid is pneumonia. If it can do what it did to me, it will kill anyone, especially those vulnerable. Trust me, you don’t want to shoot craps with anything that leads to bad pneumonia like this can.
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Originally Posted by Phil1098
I'm big brother, I just sat through a webinar on thermal imaging cameras and software (COVID-19 driven) that can be put at entrances to facilities and measure within .5 degrees F someones temperature. It can do this in milliseconds and can handle 30 people at a normal walking pace. Once identified, the person can be pulled and have their temperature properly taken and sent home before they come into a huge work place. You just set the trigger threshold and away you go. Also accurately reads if they are wearing a ball cap and or a mask.
Problem is asymptomatic means they do not show ANY symptoms.That means the thermal imaging for temperature is useless
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Old 04-23-2020, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jcapps
Problem is asymptomatic means they do not show ANY symptoms.That means the thermal imaging for temperature is useless
I fully get that, but we're getting calls on equipment like this. I think everyone is struggling to do SOMETHING in an attempt to get going again. Early on they told everyone if you have a fever of 100.4 or higher you may have it, turns out that's just one of many or no symptoms that you could have. My wife said a woman at her work got sick and missed work from Jan1 until Feb. She had a fever and had respiratory issues. After a couple weeks got better and then nosed over hard. Long before they were testing anyone around here, they never did know what was wrong, but........
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
Just as ignorant as those 'medical professionals' who fail to realize that shutting down the entire country for 6+ months "waiting for the vaccine" will be more deadly to more people than the virus itself.
See "Venezuela" for a real world example of how people suffer in a totally failed economic system. Or do you think that "it cannot happen here!"???

The Govt simply can't print money fast enough to fund every state and every one of the 350,000,000 people in the country with free money to be idle for 6+ months.
I totally agree with your comments.
I can tell you one thing, that will kill ten times more people than corona virus.
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Old 04-23-2020, 07:39 PM
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I am a physician and can guarantee you that there will be no covid19 vaccine available in 6 mos nor a miracle pill.
You are absolutely correct!! The folks who develop vaccines have been working on one for HIV, Sars, swine flu, the common cold and many others and have not got to first base on any of them. Add coronavirus to the list.
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Old 04-23-2020, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by punky
I am a physician and can guarantee you that there will be no covid19 vaccine available in 6 mos nor a miracle pill.
You don’t need to be a physician to know that.

A vaccine may not even be necessary.

I think you’re wrong about possible therapies or a “magic pill”. It’s very likely that better therapies will be developed over the next few months that will lower the risk of serious illness and death.

Don't underestimate the big profit motive for biopharmaceutical companies to come
up with new therapies.

That would be a step in the right direction.

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Old 04-24-2020, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Panfish
Promising.....now, about those parts suppliers.
I think that's the biggest issue ... engines made in Mexico - plant shut down ... and other parts are being fabricated in plants outside US.
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Old 04-24-2020, 12:20 AM
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Maybe this will work according to today’s Covid-19 briefing.


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All I know is I have been on my *** for 2 weeks, gained 15 lbs, drank like a fish and posted 100x more dumb sh^t here. Anymore and I'll be banned, divorced and homeless soon.. Maybe some of you will let me pitch my tent on your gravel driveway
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Old 04-24-2020, 01:16 AM
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There are now 40 strains of COVID-19 and growing. Good luck with a vaccine.
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Originally Posted by Dominic Sorresso
Maybe this will work according to today’s Covid-19 briefing.

It was astounding to hear that one thinks you should inject people with disinfectant

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Old 04-24-2020, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jcapps
It was astounding to hear that one thinks you should inject people with disinfectant
Uh I’m pretty sure it was a joke? 🙄
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Basically the same stuff Toyota has been sending us.
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Originally Posted by Savoy2001
Uh I’m pretty sure it was a joke? 🙄
Really? Go watch the clip
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Originally Posted by Phil1098
I'm big brother, I just sat through a webinar on thermal imaging cameras and software (COVID-19 driven) that can be put at entrances to facilities and measure within .5 degrees F someones temperature. It can do this in milliseconds and can handle 30 people at a normal walking pace. Once identified, the person can be pulled and have their temperature properly taken and sent home before they come into a huge work place. You just set the trigger threshold and away you go. Also accurately reads if they are wearing a ball cap and or a mask.
How long before this system is available? It would be advantageous even after CV19, since most Americans will go to work when they are sick.
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Originally Posted by RonnieC6Z
"how to prevent it as good as we can" means listening to what all of the doctors and researchers say when it comes to opening various sectors of manufacturing and retail safely. This means not listening to some politicians that are just so ignorant and selfish.
We need to listen to a variety of experts (like economists, psychiatrists, and sociologists), not just medical doctors who have ZERO experience with economic effects and mental health.

Recessions/depressions/widespread unemployment is capable of affecting way more people in suicides (known and studied fact) and severely affected livelihoods than this CCP virus.

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Automotive news video clip released today said UAW Big Three think early May opening too soon and too risky.

https://www.autonews.com/video/first...=hero-headline
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Originally Posted by c5vette73
You don’t need to be a physician to know that.

A vaccine may not even be necessary.

I think you’re wrong about possible therapies or a “magic pill”. It’s very likely that better therapies will be developed over the next few months that will lower the risk of serious illness and death.

Don't underestimate the big profit motive for biopharmaceutical companies to come
up with new therapies.

That would be a step in the right direction.
Thanks for the lesson! Never ceases to amaze me how some people who listen to a few BS news reports and read things on the internet have these medical issues all figured out to the point that they feel the need to educate Physicians. Hope you are not on the edge of your chair bug eyed anticipating that "miracle pill". Keep in mind that the "big profit motive" that you have enlightened me on will diminish very rapidly over the next 2-3 months as the virus fades along with the financial incentive for that miracle potion.
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