Rock0720

This is probably exactly what I'm going to do. IF the Z06 is really another 2+ years away i'll like grab a clean Gently used C7 ZR1.

Savoy2001

That’s easier said than done. There aren’t a ton out there to begin with plus who’s selling them? Not many.

Rock0720

What do you mean? There are 35 for sale right now that I could go buy if i was ready to buy. I've had my eye on this specific one for 2 weeks now as this is exactly how I would have spec'd it.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...8906/overview/

VetteVinnie

I strongly suspect those who have the manuals will hold onto them for the foreseeable future. I don't ever plan to get rid of my C6 ZR1 for that reason even when I park a C8 next to it. But there are scores of auto C7 ZR1s out there. Some people go through cars like fashion. I have a friend who switches out his "toy" every few years because he gets bored with it and wants the latest and greatest. Sadly, I don't have that kind of mad money to throw around, so I pick my battles with the wife very carefully.

Zo62018A8

I'm sure the c8Z will be faster 0-60 and will have a better Nurburgring time. That being said many single guys like me who live in Florida use a c7 z06 as a daily driver and their only car. I don't care for the seats in the back but I like the big trunk in case I need to pick up something large. In addition to that, we have no curvy roads here and its all straight-line fun but I love the look of a Corvette way more than a Challenger, Mustang or Camaro and also the fact that not everyone and their grandmother has it thats why my first Vette was my brand new 2018 2lz Z06 A8. I'm very interested in the c8z even though I will lose cargo space but it has to be fun when you are cruising at 50 and suddenly floor it.

Savoy2001

You know what I honestly didn’t realize that. That is a decent amount to choose from. I guess very few manuals? Most are autos?

Rock0720

I doubt there will ever be much more for sale than 50-60 at a time. Definitely more autos and a surprising amount of Verts. I'm still torn between the auto and M7 myself. I'm an ok driver but I feel the M7 in my Z06 is nearly too much for me at 90+% throttle.

CorsoZ06

@EViL427 Agreed!

@rob62 The early C6 Z06 cars were very stripped down and barley cracked 3000lbs. I own an early 2007 1LZ. She has no sound deadening material (must have come a little later?), the thinnest carpet and mats I've ever seen in a car, no NAV, no power passenger seat -- nothing. Just the way I like it, and just the way a Z06 should be.

I really pray the C8 Z06 is at least available stripped down. Hell, I think they could even offer a limited-options, fixed-roof, cloth sport seat, lightweight version and call it the Z06-L (lightweight), or Z06-T (track) something along those lines. I'd be the first in line. Oh, and please keep it NA!

Finally starting to get excited about the C8.

VetteVinnie

This is actually the lowest price I've ever seen for a convertible C7 ZR1. I bet they'll be well below six figures when the C8 ZR1 debuts: https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...5311/overview/

fzust

So a quick question for all the forced induction fans out here that are whining that a FPC NA engine is a step backwards. Question is: "If the C7ZR1 did ~ 3.0 0-60mph and 11.2-11.4 1/4 mile consistently(10.9 best) whereas the C8 Stingray does 2.8-2.9 0-60 and 11.2 1/4" mile, how is a more powerful C8 with more rubber going to be slower?" The current Stingray is already quicker and faster than your C7 Z06 except maybe around a German Racetrack most of us can't spell or pronounce.

Quote from Randy Pobst ""While the car has a big bump in power [over the Z06], it's still twitchy trying to accelerate in the lower gears. And that's the 'Vette's great downfall."

Too much torque is NOT a good thing. You have to be able to put it down. With a close ratio PDK we'll be able to roast the tires in lower gears, but use the HP at hand without turning it into tire smoke unintentionally.

/Fire-proof Undies engaged.....

TurboJunky

I am a huge FI guy but in no way is a 32V 5.5L V8 singing to 9000RPM a step backwards compared to the 6.2L supercharged V8.

I just hope its more than 600hp though. Porsche is getting about 125hp/L out of their GT3 motors and 130hp/L out of the RS version. If they make 650 hp NA with this car will be the one to get.

road pilot

Well, I am a little disappointed in the C8ZO6
prediction. Frankly , most old men want their
factory vettes to be easy to drive, comfortable,
and showy. Forget,all the bells and whistles,
Give me,a strip down vette, Power window on pass side,
roll up,on drivers. No,power anything except brakes. No
dumbtoys,to play with , no cruise control. I will give you,
the luxcery of a,fm radio and thats it. Strip, strip it down.
Put a forged engine and running gear in it. Free flowing heads,
a decent cam and you should have,around 650hp. Then I can
put a TT/SC on the engine and a set of headers. C8ZO6 will be light &
capable of more power. Maybe GM could offer a rollcage for $1000
that would be a deal.
I don't care how it sounds and there are no bragging right s on the track
when it comes to hp. Some of the lowest hp cars,pass me,sometimes.

Rock0720

C7 ZR1 even with the ZTK Package is a mid 10 second car at 130+ MPH with a good driver and faster with a great driver


. The c8 is slower than the current Z06 in every measurement aside from 0-60. I get it you're excited about the C8 but use facts please.

UnhandledException

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. PLEASE GIVE US A LIGHTER CAR. PLEASE!

3800+ lbs is too heavy. Why can't we have a 3200 lbs GT3RS competitor Corvette? There is a market for this car where people will not want heated/cooled seats, magnaride, front axle lift, removable top. Make all modular body panels CF. Put on CF wheels. Do something to show that you care.

And please give us proper "bucket" seats. We still don't have good seats that can compete with bucket seats of Ferrari, Porsche, Lambo. Heck, forget that, WE DONT EVEN HAVE SEATS THAT CAN COMPETE WITH 2015 Ford GT350's Recaro Seats. That's a $59,000 car!

The most aggressive comp seats of C8 is still not as aggressive as the Ford Recaro seats, or the regular 18 way "sofa" Porsche seats.

TurboJunky

I think by law, they need the targa top or else it has to have a curtain airbag.

Part of the reason the Viper didn't live past 2017

vettesweetnos

The render is very close. Rear intake ducts are spot on. But the power plant information is off. It will be a 4.4L twin turbo fpc V8 with 8400 rpm redline. 705-750 hp 620-638 tq depending on tune.

UnhandledException

That's possible. But then they can still make progress elsewhere. This car is too heavy. Way too heavy. My GT350 weighs 3760 lbs and it seats 4 people. Heck I carried 6 (six) 4x4s with it in one shot. Its like a sedan. In fact, its bigger than the sedans of 15 years ago.

C8 is a proper sports car. 3800 lbs is a lot.

How is it that Porsche can pull off 3200 lbs sports cars that are of the same dimension as Corvettes which weigh 400 lbs more? As smart as you make a car's suspension or transmission, you cannot cheat law of physics. Corvette is a fat car compared to mclarens or porsches. There is more to a car than 0-60 times.

But hold on, maybe there isn't. Because 4 out of 10 threads in this forum is about 0-60 times. So maybe Chevy DID hit the nail on the head with C8 because this is the customers of Corvette. This is what they care about. Most of them don't even know what a centerlock wheel is and didn't even know about a dual clutch until the Tremec unit showed up in C8. You see?

Yeah, bury your head in the sand is a common problem these days (everywhere)!

Oh and one last thing. Doing 0-60 in 2.8 seconds is not really a big deal. BMW can do better with a 4400 lbs big *** sedan. It's all about DCT, short gearing, and software that can properly do launch control sequence. I cannot believe what a big hit this 0-60 thing has become. But nobody talks about the fact that C8 now weighs MORE than a Subaru OUTBACK!

blue_bomber697

Many, many mistakes here...

You stated a ZR1 was a low 11 second car? They were running mid-10's good sir out of the box. And had gone 9's with tires and an exhaust basically.

I expect the C8 Z06 to run a mid-10 (10.4-10.5) out of the box consistently, similar to the C7 ZR1. But only if its a Twin Turbo. If its an NA car with 600hp... probably about an 10.7.

You then state the C8 Stingray is faster than the C7Z around any track except the Ring? Not a chance. The C7Z will be significantly faster around any track around the world. There is no question about that and zero evidence to support your claim.

Yes Randy did say that about the ZR1. Hence the entire shift to mid-engine... That is the entire purpose of them doing that. Now that they have done that... guess what. Now they can put that power to the ground effectively.

Rock0720

I think the difference is Porsche isn't afraid to use more expensive lighter weight materials. They know their customers will pay for $145k for a GT3 not sure how many Z06 owners and up for paying that much.

sstonebreaker

With a DOHC motor, why wouldn't they use a GM version of VTEC?