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Old 02-27-2020, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bartruff1
If you are remaining calm when everyone else is in a panic......obviously you are not aware of the situation..... this is a consumer economy fueled by debt,,,,, it has already collapsed and the Markets are trying to reflect that …...I have sold my winners and banked the profits and kept the high dividend payers that have healthy balance sheets.....under the assumption that they can and will pay dividends....who knows ?

IMHO a recession is inevitable unless a effective and affordable vaccine is developed , and distributed n the next few months...

I bought my car but I doubt that I will get it this year if plants are closed to reduce the infection rate...… the sky is actually falling...
Really? Maybe you ought to go have a couple drinks my friend. The downers have been guaranteeing that the big recession is just around the corner for many years. You guys will eventually be right. Rinse, repeat.
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Originally Posted by Pit Now
Unless you are super rich how are most doing today with huge market losses this week? If you don't have any market money invested then you are just fine. Cant wait to see where this thread might go in several months. Probably ignored by those that did not see the forest thru the fire.
I'm doing just fine. My IRAs are down, but I'm not taking (nor will I be for the foreseeable future) any out, so the impact of this temporary downturn is, well, zero. I don't have a "several month" viewpoint, I have a several YEAR viewpoint.

Who here was planning on pulling money out of their funds to buy a C8? A few, and I'd be interested in learning what their strategy is. I'm saving up cash to pay for mine (probably 3 years from now).

Have a good one,
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Old 02-27-2020, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bartruff1
If you are remaining calm when everyone else is in a panic......obviously you are not aware of the situation..... this is a consumer economy fueled by debt,,,,, it has already collapsed and the Markets are trying to reflect that …...I have sold my winners and banked the profits and kept the high dividend payers that have healthy balance sheets.....under the assumption that they can and will pay dividends....who knows ?

IMHO a recession is inevitable unless a effective and affordable vaccine is developed , and distributed n the next few months...

I bought my car but I doubt that I will get it this year if plants are closed to reduce the infection rate...… the sky is actually falling...
Excellent educated reply and sounds like you are also on your game with your portfolio knowledge! Looks like my thread has far more interest than "Ahhh what cat back should I buy/"
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Old 02-27-2020, 12:53 PM
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Idk I’m loving the markets today. Bargains all around. Ford at $7 a share that’s an 8%+ dividend. Easy money.

to anyone panicking there won’t be mass quarantines. This is essentially a strong version of the flu it has a 2% death rate which is elderly and people with compromised immune systems. This isn’t some death blow to any economy.

china quarantined people in hopes of stopping it before it got out. That failed so now we as a people have to deal with it. The idea that people will stop living is ridiculous. 2% of the population will be very careful, wear masks and take precautions the rest of healthy society will continue to live our lives.

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I'm doing just fine. My IRAs are down, but I'm not taking (nor will I be for the foreseeable future) any out, so the impact of this temporary downturn is, well, zero. I don't have a "several month" viewpoint, I have a several YEAR viewpoint.

Who here was planning on pulling money out of their funds to buy a C8? A few, and I'd be interested in learning what their strategy is. I'm saving up cash to pay for mine (probably 3 years from now).

Have a good one,
Mike
I’m doing the opposite. Using c8z savings to buy stocks. You buy during times like these and it’s a waste not too. Might just pick up a base if I’m still making profits when the Z hits.

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Originally Posted by Pit Now
Market news quote today. "It's official: All three of the major U.S. stock indexes are in correction territory, if rounded to the closest whole number. Traditionally, a stock market correction is defined as a drop from a recent high of 10%, or more.

Since hitting their all-time highs, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJINDICES:^DJI), Nasdaq Composite (NASDAQINDEX:^IXIC), and broad-based S&P 500 (SNPINDEX:^GSPC) have all fallen 10%. The bulk of these losses have occurred since the previous Friday, with the Dow Jones dropping 666 points, 1,175 points, and 1,033 points in three of the past five sessions."
Cant technically have market corrections since the original QE in the early 90s. Everything else is over evaluated speculation. The 80s proved deindustrialization yields negatives. Why is there a plunge protection at all? 90s level is real correction territory on the US market.
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If I had one on order it would have no impact at all. I bought my current car during an actual recession.

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Originally Posted by gatti-man
Idk I’m loving the markets today. Bargains all around. Ford at $7 a share that’s an 8%+ dividend. Easy money.

to anyone panicking there won’t be mass quarantines. This is essentially a strong version of the flu it has a 2% death rate which is elderly and people with compromised immune systems. This isn’t some death blow to any economy.

china quarantined people in hopes of stopping it before it got out. That failed so now we as a people have to deal with it. The idea that people will stop living is ridiculous. 2% of the population will be very careful, wear masks and take precautions the rest of healthy society will continue to live our lives.


I’m doing the opposite. Using c8z savings to buy stocks. You buy during times like these and it’s a waste not too. Might just pick up a base if I’m still making profits when the Z hits.
Dude... normal flu has a 0.05% mortality rate, this is at 2.3% which is on par with the Spanish Flu of 1918. When 1/3rd of the workforce is home sick, scared to go out, schools are closed etc. our system grinds to a halt and money/value evaporates. It doesn't take much to have a major event.

The Chinese don't lock down cities and roll out the mobile crematoriums for something that isn't a big deal. There's something we're not being told.
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Intel has a quarantine requirement of 14 days for any employee that even transits through an airport in China, South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore and Italy before returning to work.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
, this is at 2.3% which is on par with the Spanish Flu of 1918.
AIUI the CV-19 mortality rates are only being calculated based on those that are hospitalized, which is just about on par with the "ordinary" flu for those hostipalized. YMMV, "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics", etc.

Will we see funeral pyres? Nope. Will the markets be impacted for several months, maybe even a year? Maybe. Will the media do everything they can to blow it out of proportion? Every. Single. Time.

Truth? Who knows?
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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr
AIUI the CV-19 mortality rates are only being calculated based on those that are hospitalized, which is just about on par with the "ordinary" flu for those hostipalized. YMMV, "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics", etc.

Will we see funeral pyres? Nope. Will the markets be impacted for several months, maybe even a year? Maybe. Will the media do everything they can to blow it out of proportion? Every. Single. Time.

Truth? Who knows?
Good points... the Japanese closing schools really hit home as I have a daughter who will be 4 in June. My wife and I both work... so closing down child care or schools would be a serious issue for us. Plus, her well-being is our #1 priority.
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Market corrections are par for the course....Hmmmn I'm no longer a paper Millionaire. Still waiting for the C8Z...Market/s should be up by then..if not I'll pick up a ugly GT-R
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WSJ this morning, virus killed 2700 people worldwide. Last year 6590 pedestrians in the USA were killed by cars.
might want think about this so called plague.

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WSJ this morning, virus killed 2700 people worldwide. Last year 6590 pedestrians in the USA were killed by cars.
might want think about this so called plague.
It is obvious we need to outlaw pedestrians.
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Dunno, still have more returns in the market than when I put the deposit down. Rode the wave in 07/08.........some need to learn how to surf.
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Originally Posted by Pit Now
Probably a good idea either way but at least I got an answer of yes or no to my original question.
It wasn't a monetary decision to cancel. I decided to purchase a 2020 ZL1 instead.
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
Dude... normal flu has a 0.05% mortality rate, this is at 2.3% which is on par with the Spanish Flu of 1918. When 1/3rd of the workforce is home sick, scared to go out, schools are closed etc. our system grinds to a halt and money/value evaporates. It doesn't take much to have a major event.

The Chinese don't lock down cities and roll out the mobile crematoriums for something that isn't a big deal. There's something we're not being told.
yeah medicine was totally the same in 1918 as it is now. Yes you do lock down cities when a new flu strain is discovered to prevent its spread. That’s literally SOP.

people don’t all get the flu or a disease at the same time and even if they did it’s 2 weeks then back to work as normal. This is extremely blown out of proportion. But sell your stocks bc ill be buying.
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Originally Posted by Larrio Andretti
Dont do it. We’re no where near the bottom yet. I’m a daily trader. Thats how I make a living. 1/2 my profits were wiped out since Jan 1st. I’m still up 12% for YTD but that’s only because of extreme vigilance and a little luck getting into MRNA. Well... more than a little luck. I sold off my entire portfolio and got into MRNA. It’s my only investment right now. I wouldn’t touch anything else right now. The market still has more to give back. The VIX was up 28 points yesterday. Maybe gold but that might be overvalued as well.
I think MMM 3M makers of high quality masks and other protection is a good deal right now.
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I think MMM 3M makers of high quality masks and other protection is a good deal right now.
It’s not. There is nothing to buy now. It’s time to sit and wait. I made $3,575 today in the first 5 minutes after the opening bell on MRNA and GILD. Sold it immediately. Made the money overnight in after hours and pre market speculative trading. I bought those stocks right before the closing bell yesterday. I have plenty of cash right now to buy but it’s not time yet. Plenty of tempting bargains but the bargains will get even better. If you want to make money I have a shopping list that I can share with you that could double or triple the market indexes depending on how bearish the market will be once it recovers. If you have to buy something in this down market buy ZM Zoom video conferencing. It’s doing crazy well. Still too hot for me to touch right now. ZM should set you up for market beating profits for the next 3-5 years.

VIX is at 39.16. That’s crazy volatility that’s not in your favor.

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WSJ this morning, virus killed 2700 people worldwide. Last year 6590 pedestrians in the USA were killed by cars.
might want think about this so called plague.
You don’t trade on facts. You trade on people’s perceptions of the facts. BTW if you look at the numbers realistically there is a good chance a few million people could die in the US alone with a 2% death rate.
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