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Old 01-12-2020, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AceG
Ill speak from experience.

I was 24 when I bought the c7 new. I financed it for a 72 month term. Obviously it wasnt the smartest decision but it didnt impact me as much as some of these finance gurus claim it would. Assuming you get a sub 4% apr, you can afford this car. Would it bensmart financially? Obviously not.
Yes it was and I did the same thing although I was a little older than you and my apr was ony 1.87% on my 2013 GS. Did my life go on uninterrupted having this payment, sure did, Did I still go out to eat at the same good restaurants 4-5 times a month, sure did. Did all my bills get paid on time with no problem and maintain my 820 credit score sure did. Did I still go on vacation yup. Did I still save money every month yup. Did I cut back to survive this payment, nope and in fact sometimes doubled it up ($588.00 a month, sometimes paid $1200) and wound up paying the loan off a year and a half early. There was ZERO impact to my life at the time or in the future buying that car on time when I bought it. I sold it last Aug for $30k after I paid $50k for it and bought my C7. BTW I made the same money the op makes at the time and I'm guessing around $4900-$5100 take home a month and my bills were around $1800-2100 without the car payment.

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Old 01-12-2020, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BadAV
If you find yourself trying to justify the purchase, you probably can't or shouldn't afford it.

The OP sounds like a responsible person, unlike some of the others who say "you only live once", many of which then won't be able to live in retirement. Take financial care of your future first, because for damn sure nobody else is going to.

OP, I agree with some of the suggestions already made. Buy a previous-gen Vette with cash and dip your toes in the water before going whole hog. You may find out Corvette is not for you. You are still young at 31; do what I always did - put money aside for the purchase every month until you can pay cash. Delaying gratification until you can pay cash just makes the purchase that much more satisfying, knowing you are not compromising the future for that immediate gratification. Just my opinions/suggestions; YMMV.

By doing the above I was able to retire when I decided I wanted to at 58 with no debt, plenty of toys, and no worries about doing what I want in retirement.
Very good insight and post. Not critical like most others. Refreshing.
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Originally Posted by Moɹlp
Hey everybody! Im new here and have a question before I go any further looking for a Corvette. Ive never made a ton of money in my life. Ill be 31 tomorrow and recently received a nice promotion at my job of 9 years. My annual income is rising from $43K to $80K. My mortgage and all other bills combined is $1400/month. My wife helps pay the monthly expenses as well. We have no kids and a good amount in savings, not counting 401K's, gold, silver and crypto holdings.

Ive always been on the frugal side but I do like nice things. However, its hard to justify paying a $1200-$1400 car payment. Or putting a large amount down and still paying $800-$1000.

This would be a weekend car and occasionally driving it to work. I keep telling my self you earned it and you only live once - just do it. But I still get the nagging feeling that I could be investing this money.

How do you justify it?
1) If you have need to self justify, there is a problem. 2) At 75 with two coronaries followed by subsequent surgeries ?

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Welcome aboard and good luck with your decision. I buy new middle of the road basic transportation vehicles with good reviews. To me a Corvette is a toy. I usually wait until there is a model change and then pay cash for one from the previous model that is three to five years old with low mileage. Let someone else take the depreciation.
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Old 01-12-2020, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Oh Boy
Jesus Christ you would think the guy is buying a mansion. It's a fuckn $70k car spread out over 5 years and your micro managing this thing like it's the end of the world. Don't any of you ever spend any money? You do know coffins have no pockets.
$70k invested over 20 years at 7% turns in to $201k.

$70k spent on a C8 Corvette turns in to $40k after 5 years and near nothing after 20 years not to mention you are paying nearly $8k in interest on top of that at today's rates if you finance. Yes, he could die tomorrow however the likelihood of that is high unlikely. Most likely he will live to at least 77. Financing a toy like the C8 is dumb and really financially irresponsible.

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Just out of curiosity what do you financial geniuses consider being unable to afford a car? And don't give me the crap if you can't buy it cash you can't afford it. That is not in the equation.
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Originally Posted by Oh Boy
Just out of curiosity what do you financial geniuses consider being unable to afford a car? And don't give me the crap if you can't buy it cash you can't afford it. That is not in the equation.

He has many videos about buying cars and how much you should pay based on your income.
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My justification is simple, I want one!
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Originally Posted by AEmedic
My justification is simple, I want one!
Awesome reply.

Some on here act like you have to put your money away until you are almost dead to buy a Corvette. I bought my first one at an early age and haven't regretted it one bit. I realized that I had put that money towards a car and just made sacrifices in other areas.
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Originally Posted by AEmedic
My justification is simple, I want one!
My logic also and simple enough for me.
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Originally Posted by NocarbutaVetteforme
Awesome reply.

Some on here act like you have to put your money away until you are almost dead to buy a Corvette. I bought my first one at an early age and haven't regretted it one bit..
Most on here are. I bought my first of a few a little early also not as young as the op thou.
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Originally Posted by Moɹlp
Hey everybody! Im new here and have a question before I go any further looking for a Corvette. Ive never made a ton of money in my life. Ill be 31 tomorrow and recently received a nice promotion at my job of 9 years. My annual income is rising from $43K to $80K. My mortgage and all other bills combined is $1400/month. My wife helps pay the monthly expenses as well. We have no kids and a good amount in savings, not counting 401K's, gold, silver and crypto holdings.

Ive always been on the frugal side but I do like nice things. However, its hard to justify paying a $1200-$1400 car payment. Or putting a large amount down and still paying $800-$1000.

This would be a weekend car and occasionally driving it to work. I keep telling my self you earned it and you only live once - just do it. But I still get the nagging feeling that I could be investing this money.

How do you justify it?
If you have no kids, and you are on track with your retirement savings, then go for it. If kids arrive sooner than expected, sell the car. You’ll have to lose the depreciation but your big monthly payment will stop.

Just remember if you are paying a car note, insurance, fuel and maintenance on a Corvette, you may have to give up other things you enjoy, and no matter what, don’t wreck your budget to get the car. You will never get those prime earning years back.

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I dont have any kids and wont have any kids. In place of it we have expensive cars and as far as I am concerned the cars are FAR cheaper than kids.
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I bought my first new Corvette at 22 while I was still in college. I paid for it with money I made from a startup business. I wasn’t worried about missing out on investment opportunities because I knew I had great earning potential and a lot of life in front of me. Once consideration for the OP is future earning potential. Are additional promotions with significant salary increases likely in the near future or did you hit the ceiling?
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Originally Posted by Oh Boy
Yea that's really cool, waiting to be 69 years old and driving Americas greatest sports car. I had my first one when I was 26. Nothing like a bald grey fat man with a cane getting out of a great sports car.
Immature, judgmental ***** much?
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Jim2527's golden rule of car expenses is this: All household car expenses should NOT exceed 1 weeks take home pay. 'All expenses' means all monthly payments, insurance and gas for all household cars.

These are my basic rules:

1. Maximize retirement.
2. Household expenses, mortgage, insurance, utilities etc shouldn't exceed 2 weeks take home pay.
3. Car expenses shouldn't exceed 1 weeks take home
4. This leaves 1 weeks take home for clothes, food, entertainment etc.
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Originally Posted by Oh Boy
Just out of curiosity what do you financial geniuses consider being unable to afford a car? And don't give me the crap if you can't buy it cash you can't afford it. That is not in the equation.
See my post above.
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Originally Posted by jim2527
Jim2527's golden rule of car expenses is this: All household car expenses should NOT exceed 1 weeks take home pay. 'All expenses' means all monthly payments, insurance and gas for all household cars.

These are my basic rules:

1. Maximize retirement.
2. Household expenses, mortgage, insurance, utilities etc shouldn't exceed 2 weeks take home pay.
3. Car expenses shouldn't exceed 1 weeks take home
4. This leaves 1 weeks take home for clothes, food, entertainment etc.
Sounds like Jim2527 is quite taken with Jim2527.
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I learned a big lesson that the cost of a vehicle goes well beyond initially paying for it. I would also take into consideration is the cost of maintenance and repairs. When I was young I went out on a limb and bought a fancy new car that I could afford. I never factored in the cost of insurance, tires gas, and so on. Something I didn't consider at the time. It all worked out in the end but it was an eye opening experience.

Good luck on your decision.


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